Common compact constellations / B3S23clustersv0

confocaloid · Post by **confocaloid** » January 20th, 2023, 8:31 pm

I made a three-state ruletable (Rule:B3S23clustersv0) where cellstates 0 and 1 work the same way as in CGoL and cellstate 2 is an OFF cell with at least one adjacent ON cell in the previous generation.

The effect is that from the viewpoint of apgsearch, many compact constellations become single objects. I submitted 1 000 000 16x16 soups to x2xb3s23clustersv0/C1 using this ruletable.

In the xq4 tabulation, the HWSS (with 142 occurrences) is closely followed by the following glider pair (113 occurrences). This seems to be unambiguously the most common glider pair, out of pairs recognized as single objects. (I do not know whether there are more common glider pairs with higher separation between gliders.)

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#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xq4_46azw46a_rplfezwrplfe/x2xb3s23clustersv0
x = 7, y = 10, rule = B3S23clustersv0
4B$B2A2B$2A3B$2BA2B$3B$2.4B$2.B2A2B$2.2A3B$2.2BA2B$2.3B!

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#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xq4_163w4oc/b3s23
x = 5, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2o$2bo3$3b2o$2b2o$4bo!

The xp15 and xp30 tabulations together have 18 occurrences of constellations, all of which would normally be occurrences of a pentadecathlon. The two most common are the following constellation (6 occurrences) and a clean pentadecathlon (5 occurrences):

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#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xp15_w66z033zxeaeeeeae_gvppfz7447z0eehlhwhlhee/x2xb3s23clustersv0
x = 13, y = 15, rule = B3S23clustersv0
.4B$.B2AB$.B2AB$.4B$4B$B2AB$B2AB$4B3$3.3B2.3B$.2B8A2B$.2BAB4ABA2B$.2B8A2B$3.
3B2.3B!

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#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xp15_sksy033w66zvnv/b3s23
x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$7b2o2b2o$3o8b2o$obo$3o$3o$3o$3o$obo$3o!

The reason for the commonness of that constellation seems to be the pi+block collision:

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x = 10, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
b2o$obo$o$obo$b2o5b2o$8b2o!

In the following table, columns are:

"b3s23/C1-2023-01-15" -- the number of occurrences in b3s23/C1-2023-01-15 (3 744 946 382 598 037 objects generated from 171 433 196 116 960 soups)
"estimate" -- estimated number of objects per 1000000 soups, based on the b3s23/C1 data
"x2xb3s23clustersv0" -- actual number of occurrences in the first 1000000 soups in x2xb3s23clustersv0/C1, counting only clean occurrences (i.e. excluding larger constellations tabulated as single objects)

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name                    b3s23/C1-2023-01-15    estimate     x2xb3s23clustersv0
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block                 1 156 806 479 059 678   6 747 855              4 942 598
glider                  329 261 813 875 507   1 920 642              1 917 042
blinker               1 074 171 786 138 747   6 265 833              1 891 456
beehive                 613 021 991 215 741   3 575 865              1 705 830
boat                    166 856 475 295 513     973 303                674 159
loaf                    180 852 740 481 611   1 054 945                652 705
ship                    115 207 763 859 896     672 027                629 862
(TL = traffic light)                      -                            367 307
(1/2 TL, xp2_1110s)                       -                            161 254
tub                      36 410 466 178 097     212 388                148 018
pond                     35 413 024 415 801     206 570                138 502
(HF = honey farm)                         -                            125 351
(3/4 TL, xp2_70ggg07)                     -                            114 521
(half-blockade)                           -                            106 246
(xs8_33wcc)                               -                             53 079
(1/2 HF, xs12_696zy02552)                 -                             46 768
long boat                11 727 832 126 964      68 410                 46 193
(xs8_33woo)                               -                             42 871
(bi-block)                                -                             40 808
(xs8_ggw33z11)                            -                             32 483
(3/4 HF, xs18_696z0gw2552z343)            -                             31 275
toad                      8 195 474 240 761      47 805                 29 265
(xs8_33w33)                               -                             23 833
(xs8_330oo)                               -                             21 387
barge                     2 463 434 067 457      14 369                 10 186
beacon                    2 562 876 322 756      14 949                  9 642
(fleet)                                   -                              7 468
(Beethoven, xp2_2552gggz4aa4)             -                              4 308
mango                       907 406 305 791       5 293                  3 515
LWSS                        480 984 861 474       2 805                  2 826
eater 1                     584 490 034 036       3 409                  2 564
(bakery)                                  -                              2 344
ship-tie                  5 991 133 937 196      34 947                  2 311
half-bakery               2 029 021 568 589      11 835                  1 765
(Bach, xs16_256zy02552z253)               -                              1 515
long barge                  329 277 169 214       1 920                  1 072
pulsar                      264 049 223 191       1 540                    832
aircraft carrier            284 507 825 920       1 659                    773
paperclip                   166 333 845 858         970                    769
MWSS                        126 718 655 498         739                    729
(Mozart, xs14_y0696z33y333)               -                                659
integral                    104 200 977 067         607                    480
long ship                   112 428 681 663         655                    453
shillelagh                   89 252 783 087         520                    371
bi-pond                      68 490 329 913         399                    348
(Stravinsky, xs14_33w8kk8z33)             -                                329
snake                        78 188 705 344         456                    299
Big S                        78 657 646 417         458                    277
boat-tie                     88 039 460 516         513                    219
(Chopin, xp2_6952gggz69a4)                -                                184
(Schumann, xp2_252ggg252)                 -                                169
HWSS                         22 021 786 010         128                    142
(xq4_163w4oc)                             -                                113
(tri-block, xs12_rrz66)                   -                                  9
(xp15_sksy033w66zvnv)                     -                                  6
BLSE                          1 484 091 387           8                      6
pentadecathlon                2 842 504 199          16                      5
GPSE                            534 562 061           3                      4
clock                         1 656 847 959           9                      3
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confocaloid · Post by **confocaloid** » January 21st, 2023, 7:44 pm

confocaloid wrote: January 20th, 2023, 8:31 pm The effect is that from the viewpoint of apgsearch, many compact constellations become single objects.

As a concrete example, this one-time splitter constellation (taken from this post) is tabulated as xs53_0ca6zw8kic_ujlpfz0smbdjuzw1111 and has 50 occurrences in 1000000 soups (#17 in xs53 tabulation).

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
b2o$obo4bo$2o4bobo$5bo2bo$6b2o12$16b3o$16bo$17bo!

I did not look at all 50 soups, but it seems like variations of the following reaction are one of common ways for the constellation to form. The two-loaf constellation has 7819 occurrences (#1 in xs60 tabulation), and may form before or after the block.

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x = 14, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$obo$bo5bo$6bobo$6bo2bo3bo$7b2o3bo$11bo$11bo!

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#C From https://catagolue.hatsya.com/hashsoup/C1/k_m4jR4kN5sepd10159/x2xb3s23clustersv0
x = 7, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
o$o$3o$b2o$b2o2$4bo$3bobo$2bo3bo$2bo3bo$2bo3bo$3bobo$4bo4$b3o!

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#C From https://catagolue.hatsya.com/hashsoup/C1/k_zw5vvwziwcTa9937/x2xb3s23clustersv0
x = 11, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
6bobo$6bo$7bo2bo$6bo3bo$7bo2bo$6b3obo$6bo2b2o$5bobo$6b4o$7b2o$3b2o$5bo
$2bo$3b2o5$2o$2o!

confocaloid · Post by **confocaloid** » January 11th, 2024, 7:54 am

It seems like there is still some interest in this, based on searching in x2xb3s23clustersv0.

confocaloid wrote: January 20th, 2023, 8:31 pm I made a three-state ruletable (Rule:B3S23clustersv0) where cellstates 0 and 1 work the same way as in CGoL and cellstate 2 is an OFF cell with at least one adjacent ON cell in the previous generation.

The effect is that from the viewpoint of apgsearch, many compact constellations become single objects. I submitted 1 000 000 16x16 soups to x2xb3s23clustersv0/C1 using this ruletable.

Here is a link to a backup of the C1 census, made after reaching 1 000 000 soups:
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/x2x ... 2023-01-19

EDIT (2024-11):
Here is a link to a backup of the C1 census, made after reaching 5 000 000 soups:
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/x2x ... 2024-11-08

Here is a copy of Rule:B3S23clustersv0, to make this forum thread slightly more self-contained:

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@RULE B3S23clustersv0

Cellstate 2 is an OFF cell with at least one adjacent ON cell in the previous generation.

Some constellations become single objects, e.g.:
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/x2xb3s23clustersv0/C1/xp2 includes TL
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/x2xb3s23clustersv0/C1/xs104 includes HF
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/x2xb3s23clustersv0/C1/xs28 includes bi-block

@TABLE
n_states:3
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute

var d={0,2}
var d1=d
var d2=d
var d3=d
var d4=d
var d5=d
var d6=d
var d7=d
var d8=d

1, d1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6,d7,d8,  0
1,  1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6,d7,d8,  2
1,  1, 1, 1, 1,d5,d6,d7,d8,  2
1,  1, 1, 1, 1, 1,d6,d7,d8,  2
1,  1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,d7,d8,  2
1,  1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,d8,  2
1,  1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,  2

d, d1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6,d7,d8,  0
d,  1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6,d7,d8,  2
d,  1, 1,d3,d4,d5,d6,d7,d8,  2
d,  1, 1, 1,d4,d5,d6,d7,d8,  1
d,  1, 1, 1, 1,d5,d6,d7,d8,  2
d,  1, 1, 1, 1, 1,d6,d7,d8,  2
d,  1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,d7,d8,  2
d,  1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,d8,  2
d,  1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,  2

HerscheltheHerschel · January 11th, 2024, 8:04 am

Here is the biggest object from C1:

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x = 47, y = 31, rule = B3S23clustersv0
35.3B$34.2BA2B$34.BABAB$30.3B.2B2AB$23.3B3.2BA2B.4B$6.3B13.2BA2B2.BAB
AB$5.2BA2B12.BABAB2.BABAB$5.BABA2B11.BABAB2.2BA2B$.3B.BA2BAB.4B6.2BA2B
3.3B.4B$2BA4B2A4B2A2B.4B.3B.4B2.2B2A2B$BABA6B.BA2BA3B2A2B3.2B2A2B.BA2B
AB$BA2BAB2.5B2A3BA2BAB3.BA2BAB.2B2A2B$2B2A2B.2B2A5B.2B2A2B3.2B2A2B2.7B
$.4B2.BA2BAB5.4B.3B.7B3.2BA2B$7.2B2A2B9.2BA2B3.2BA2B2.BABAB$8.7B7.BAB
AB3.BABAB2.BABA5B$11.B2AB.3B3.BABAB3.BABAB2.2BA3B2A2B$11.B2A3BA2B2.2B
A2B3.2BA2B3.4BA2BAB$11.5BABAB3.3B5.3B7.2B2A2B$15.BABAB20.6B$15.2BA2B19.
2BA2B$16.3B20.BABA2B$34.4B.BA2BAB$33.2B2A4B2A2B$33.BA2BAB.4B$33.2B2A2B
$34.4B$38.4B$38.B2AB$38.B2AB$38.4B!

I would also like variants of this rule where the state 2 cells have a higher range (for example "B3S23clustersv0R2" where the state 2 cells have range 2 Moore neighborhood)

confocaloid · Post by **confocaloid** » January 11th, 2024, 8:20 am

And here is the reaction that produced it:

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x = 31, y = 43, rule = B3S23clustersv0
10.4B$9.2B2A2B$9.BA2BAB12.4B$9.BA2BAB12.B2AB$9.2B2A2B12.B2AB$.4B5.4B
13.4B$2B2AB$BABAB$2BA2B6.2BA2B$.3B7.2BA2B$11.2BA2B6$19.4B$19.B2AB$19.
B2AB$16.7B$15.B3AB$14.BA3BAB$.4B9.BA3BAB$.B2AB9.BA3BAB$.B2AB10.B3AB$.
4B11.5B$18.3B$18.3A$18.3B$18.3B8$3.4B$2.2B2A2B$2.BA2BAB$2.2BABAB$3.2B
A2B$4.3B!

LifeHistory version:

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x = 29, y = 67, rule = LifeHistory
10.2D$10.2D5$20.2D$20.2D15$16.D$15.D.D$15.D.D3.D$10.2A4.D3.D.D$9.A2.A
6.D2.D$9.A2.A2D5.2D5.2A$10.2AD2.D11.2A$13.2D$.2A6.D13.D$A.A5.D.D11.D.
D$.A6.D.D.A9.D.D$9.D2.A10.D$12.A.2D$4.2D7.D2.D$3.D2.D7.2D$4.2D4.D$9.D
.D$9.D.D$10.D$19.2A$5.2D7.2D3.2A$4.D2.D5.D2.D$5.2D7.DC2A$14.A3.A$10.D
3.A3.A$.2A6.D.D2.A3.A$.2A6.D.D3.3A$10.D6.2D$16.D2.D$17.2CA$9.D$8.D.D$
8.D.D4.2D$9.D5.2D$12.D$11.D.D$7.D3.D.D$6.D.D3.D$5.D2.D$6.2D$3.2A$2.A
2.A4.D$3.A.A3.D.D$4.A3.D2.D$9.2D!

The soup:

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#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/hashsoup/C1/k_rYzyK4BAWiA6396/x2xb3s23clustersv0
#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xs477_yrgx4aczwgxcik8xggy4696y0343wggz03452x8kk81221w2552wgw25520g01221g8gzy866wo4oy0343y1343y012104aa4zyd1ycg88gw69a4zyv11woo_yjgggxgo8ogerljuzgo8ogujdbmsgo88og0ggggfpmpfggnsbcno88ogz7cbad71tnbanu55637daadno8ondaatv8rm55ufkcozy4111f99fs6q6sw7cbc7x7cbc7w365mvrllrezyb13231y9ockkcofpmlrezyt13223t44szyy1111/x2xb3s23clustersv0
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3S23clustersv0
obbobbobbbboboob$
bbboboobbboobooo$
obbbobobobboboob$
ooobobooobboobbo$
bbboobboobbbbooo$
oobbbbbboooobboo$
oboooobobbbbbobo$
bobbboobooobobbo$
bobboobbbbbbboob$
oobbbbobooobbbbb$
obboooboobbooobo$
oobobbbbbboobbbb$
ooobooobbboooobo$
oobbbboooobboooo$
bobbooobooboobob$
bbobbbbooobboobb!

It might make sense to make another ruletable to census pseudo objects only (like bi-block), so that there are fewer objects in the census.

hotcrystal0 · Post by **hotcrystal0** » February 4th, 2024, 2:36 pm

Why is this thread in The Sandbox and not in Patterns or OCA?

confocaloid · Post by **confocaloid** » February 4th, 2024, 2:52 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote: February 4th, 2024, 2:36 pmWhy is this thread in The Sandbox and not in Patterns or OCA?

This thread is in "Sandbox", because I decided to create it in the "Sandbox". And that was because it was more or less an experimental ruletable, and I was not sure if there's any interest in this. If others think it would go better in "Patterns" or "General discussion", then perhaps a mod could move the thread.
(I think there is little difference between "Sandbox" vs. "Other cellular automata", in terms of the average time before a thread sinks to second/third page.)

confocaloid · Post by **confocaloid** » November 8th, 2024, 7:34 am

For all I know, this (xq4_042ezy22a6_srthuzy1vtl9e) might be the most common diagonally symmetric glider pair, out of those glider pairs that are sufficiently compact to be tabulated as "objects" in this census:

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#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xq4_042ezy22a6_srthuzy1vtl9e/x2xb3s23clustersv0
x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3S23clustersv0
.3B$.B2AB$BABAB$3BAB$5B$5.4B$5.B3AB$5.3BAB$5.2BA2B$5.3B!

It is currently ranked #65 or #66, in the tabulation x2xb3s23clustersv0/C1/xq4.

Here is a seed emitting that glider pair (extracted from an evolved C1 soup):

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3bo$bo3bo$o3bo$o3bob2o$b2o2b2o!
#C [[ THEME MCell GRID ZOOM 6 ]]

confocaloid wrote: August 5th, 2024, 1:02 pm The glider is not diagonally symmetric, but a glider pair can be diagonally symmetric. What are smallest known H-to-2G creating some diagonally symmetric glider pair?

Here is an engineered Spartan H-to-2G (NE-57T447 NE-16T365) that creates a diagonally symmetric glider pair (xq4_153zzzzyg217):

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x = 130, y = 97, rule = LifeHistory
78.4B37.4B$77.4B37.4B$76.4B37.4B$75.4B37.4B$74.4B37.4B$73.4B37.4B$72.
4B33.B3.4B$71.4B33.3B.4B$70.4B18.2A7.B3.2B.7B12.2A$34.A34.4B20.A6.3B.
10B13.A$32.3A33.4B21.A.AB.15B5.2B4.BA.A$31.A35.4B23.2AB.15B3.6B2.B2A$
31.2A33.4B26.18B2.9B$29.4B32.4B28.17B.10B$28.3B33.4B28.29B$27.4B32.4B
27.31B$26.4B32.4B27.33B$25.4B32.4B27.34B$24.4B32.4B28.34B$23.4B32.4B
27.2AB4.29B$22.4B32.4B27.A.AB3.23B2.5B$21.4B32.4B28.A6.7B.10B2.2B.7B$
21.4B31.4B28.2A7.4B3.9B7.5B$20.5B30.4B36.5B5.11B6.2B$17.9B28.4B37.2A
8.12B4.4B$17.9B27.4B39.A8.12B4.B2AB$17.9B26.4B37.3A10.11B5.2A$17.10B
24.4B38.A10.4B.8B$16.12B22.4B50.2A4.7B$15.13B8.2A11.4B52.A4.7B$16.11B
9.A11.4B4.2A44.3A6.6B$17.12B4.BA.A10.4B4.A.A44.A8.7B$17.15B.B2A10.4B
5.A11.A43.8B$17.17B11.4B5.2A9.3A44.8B$17.17B10.4B6.B9.A47.8B$14.B.17B
10.4B5.3B9.2A10.2A33.6B2.B2A$13.2A19B8.4B4.6B5.5B10.A34.7B.BA.A$13.2A
B.19B5.4B2.10B3.4B9.BA.A35.6B4.A$14.B4.20B.4B2.11B2.6B4.3B.B2A36.6B4.
2A$19.32B2A13B.7B38.6B$19.9B.22B2A21B20.A16.8B$20.7B2.44B12.2A5.3A15.
8B$20.7B2.45B10.B2AB3.A18.9B$20.6B4.46B8.3B4.2A17.9B$20.7B7.7B.13B3.B
.19B2.2B2.B2.5B16.10B$20.6B7.4B.3B5.B.7B7.29B18.3B2A5B$19.8B.B3.4B3.
4B19.6B.21B2A11.2A3.4B2A5B$20.15B6.2A17.5B.B2.16B2A3B2A12.A3.11B$18.
2B.7B2A4B7.A18.2A7.16B2A2B.B13.A.A12B$17.2A8BA2BA2B9.3A16.A8.19B16.2A
2.8B$17.2AB.7B2A2B12.A13.3A16.8B.B23.7B$18.B2.9B28.A18.12B23.5B$22.6B
51.12B20.6B7.A$20.5B53.13B20.7B4.3A$20.2A55.15B18.7B4.A$21.A45.2A8.
15B18.7B4.2A$18.3A47.A8.15B18.13B$18.A49.A.AB4.15B18.8B.3B$69.2AB.18B
19.12B3.2B$71.19B20.18B$71.21B16.20B$72.20B13.2B.21B$71.21B12.2A23B$
69.22B13.2A24B$67.21B.4B12.2B.22B$67.2BC17B4.2A14.22B$66.3BCBC4B.10B
4.A14.21B$D3.D.5D7.5D.5D.5D4.D5.D2.5D14.2B3C4B2.8B6.3A9.22B$2D2.D.D
11.D9.D3.D5.2D4.2D6.D13.5BC4B.8B9.A8.23B$D.D.D.D11.D8.D4.D4.D.D3.D.D
5.D13.10B3.7B17.24B$D2.2D.3D3.5D2.3D4.D5.D3.D2.D2.D2.D4.D13.4B10.7B4.
2A10.25B$D3.D.D15.D2.D6.D3.5D.5D2.D14.3B12.6B5.A10.25B$D3.D.D11.D3.D.
D7.D6.D5.D2.D13.4B13.7B4.A.AB2.4B.25B$D3.D.5D8.3D2.D7.D6.D5.D2.D13.2A
15.6B6.2AB2.29B$63.A14.6B9.32B$60.3A15.6B9.30B$60.A16.8B9.31B$D3.D.5D
9.D4.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D2.5D25.6B8.B2.24B4.2A$2D2.D.D12.2D3.D7.D3.D3.D.D5.
D29.7B5.29B4.A$D.D.D.D13.D3.D7.D7.D.D5.D27.42B6.3A$D2.2D.3D3.5D3.D3.
4D4.D5.2D2.4D3.3D22.B.2B2A13B2A22B9.A$D3.D.D13.D3.D3.D3.D7.D.D3.D5.D
20.2A3B2A13B2A21B$D3.D.D13.D3.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D20.2A40B$D3.D.5D
8.3D3.3D4.D4.3D3.3D3.3D22.40B$72.5B2.B2.2B2.28B$72.2A4.3B7.4B2.7B.12B
$73.A3.B2AB13.6B2.10B.B2A$70.3A5.2A16.3B3.10B.BA.A$70.A26.B4.9B5.A$
103.8B5.2A$103.9B$104.9B$104.9B$104.3B3.4B$109.4B$108.B2A2B$109.2A!

R2INT · Post by **R2INT** » November 8th, 2024, 11:25 am

R2 ruletable:

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x = 64, y = 64, rule = B3S23clustersr2
!
@RULE B3S23clustersr2
@COLORS
0 0,0,0
1 255,255,255
2 0,64,255
3 0,0,191
@NAMES
0 off
1 alive
2 r1
3 r2
@TABLE
n_states:4
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a1 = {0,1,2,3}
var a2 = a1
var a3 = a1
var a4 = a1
var a5 = a1
var a6 = a1
var a7 = a1
var a8 = a1
var d1 = {0,2,3}
var d2 = d1
var d3 = d1
var d4 = d1
var d5 = d1
var d6 = d1
var d7 = d1
var e1 = {0,3}
d1 1,1,1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6 1
1 1,1,d1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6 1
1 1,1,1,d1,d2,d3,d4,d5 1
d1 1,a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7 2
e1 2,a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7 3
1 a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8,a1 2
2 a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8 3
3 a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8 0

EDIT: r3

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x = 1, y = 1, rule = B3S23clustersr3
!
@RULE B3S23clustersr3
@COLORS
0 0,0,0
1 255,255,255
2 0,127,255
3 0,0,224
4 0,0,127
@NAMES
0 off
1 alive
2 r1
3 r2
4 r3
@TABLE
n_states:5
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a1 = {0,1,2,3,4}
var a2 = a1
var a3 = a1
var a4 = a1
var a5 = a1
var a6 = a1
var a7 = a1
var a8 = a1
var d1 = {0,2,3,4}
var d2 = d1
var d3 = d1
var d4 = d1
var d5 = d1
var d6 = d1
var d7 = d1
var e1 = {0,3,4}
var e2 = {0,4}
d1 1,1,1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6 1
1 1,1,d1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6 1
1 1,1,1,d1,d2,d3,d4,d5 1
d1 1,a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7 2
e1 2,a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7 3
e2 3,a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7 4
1 a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8,a1 2
2 a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8 3
3 a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8 4
4 a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8 0

EDIT2: pseudo

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x = 1, y = 1, rule = B3S23psuedoclusters
!
@RULE B3S23pseudoclusters
@NAMES
0 dead
1 conway
2 pseudo
@TABLE
n_states:3
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a1 = {0,1,2}
var a2 = a1
var a3 = a2
var a4 = a3
var a5 = a4
var a6 = a5
var a7 = a6
var a8 = a7
var d1 = {0,2}
var d2 = d1
var d3 = d1
var d4 = d1
var d5 = d1
var d6 = d1
d1 1,1,1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6 1
1 1,1,d1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6 1
1 1,1,1,d1,d2,d3,d4,d5 1
1 a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8 0
d1 1,1,1,1,a1,a2,a3,a4 2
2 a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8 0

quasi

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x = 1, y = 1, rule = B3S23quasiclusters
!
@RULE B3S23quasiclusters
@COLORS
0 0,0,0
1 255,255,255
2 0,255,255
@NAMES
0 dead
1 conway
2 quasi
@TABLE
n_states:3
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a1 = {0,1,2}
var a2 = a1
var a3 = a2
var a4 = a3
var a5 = a4
var a6 = a5
var a7 = a6
var a8 = a7
var d1 = {0,2}
var d2 = d1
var d3 = d1
var d4 = d1
var d5 = d1
var d6 = d1
d1 1,1,1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6 1
1 1,1,d1,d2,d3,d4,d5,d6 1
1 1,1,1,d1,d2,d3,d4,d5 1
1 a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8 0
d1 1,1,a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6 2
2 a1,a2,a3,a4,a5,a6,a7,a8 0

EDIT3: fix spelling and rule table names

islptng · Post by **islptng** » November 9th, 2024, 7:57 am

what the heck did I do

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x = 165, y = 170, rule = B3S23clusterR64
6.A$4.A.2A$4.A.A$4.A$2.A$A.A163$163.2A$163.2A!
@RULE B3S23clusterR64

@TABLE
n_states:66
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var cluster = {2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65}
var a = {0,1,cluster}
var b = a
var c = a
var d = a
var e = a
var f = a
var g = a
var h = a

var m = {0,cluster}
var n = m
var o = m
var p = m
var q = m
var r = m
a,1,1,1,m,n,o,p,q,1
1,1,1,m,n,o,p,q,r,1

a, 1,b,c,d,e,f,g,h, 2
a, 2,b,c,d,e,f,g,h, 3
a, 3,b,c,d,e,f,g,h, 4
a, 4,b,c,d,e,f,g,h, 5
a, 5,b,c,d,e,f,g,h, 6
a, 6,b,c,d,e,f,g,h, 7
a, 7,b,c,d,e,f,g,h, 8
a, 8,b,c,d,e,f,g,h, 9
a, 9,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,10
a,10,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,11
a,11,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,12
a,12,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,13
a,13,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,14
a,14,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,15
a,15,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,16
a,16,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,17
a,17,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,18
a,18,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,19
a,19,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,20
a,20,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,21
a,21,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,22
a,22,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,23
a,23,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,24
a,24,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,25
a,25,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,26
a,26,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,27
a,27,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,28
a,28,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,29
a,29,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,30
a,30,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,31
a,31,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,32
a,32,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,33
a,33,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,34
a,34,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,35
a,35,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,36
a,36,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,37
a,37,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,38
a,38,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,39
a,39,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,40
a,40,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,41
a,41,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,42
a,42,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,43
a,43,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,44
a,44,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,45
a,45,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,46
a,46,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,47
a,47,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,48
a,48,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,49
a,49,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,50
a,50,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,51
a,51,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,52
a,52,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,53
a,53,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,54
a,54,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,55
a,55,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,56
a,56,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,57
a,57,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,58
a,58,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,59
a,59,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,60
a,60,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,61
a,61,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,62
a,62,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,63
a,63,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,64
a,64,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,65

1,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,2
65,a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h, 0

@COLORS
0 64 255 0 0 128
0 0 0 0
1 255 255 255 255

confocaloid · Post by **confocaloid** » November 9th, 2024, 8:04 am

I'm currently apgsearching "B3S23pseudoclusters" (which only captures pseudo objects without capturing quasi objects or constellations); see the forum post viewtopic.php?f=16&t=6464#p197611

Also, hopefully everyone understands that "higher range" means "way more 'objects'", making it less reasonable to attempt running apgsearch on those higher-range versions.
For example, check the tabulation /x2xb3s23clustersv0/C1/xp2 or /x2xb3s23clustersv0/C1/xp6.
With higher ranges, "interesting" constellations are going to get lost in a heap of zillions of "boring" constellations.

User:HotdogPi/My discoveries · Post by **hotdogPi** » November 9th, 2024, 8:13 am

confocaloid wrote: November 9th, 2024, 8:04 am I'm currently apgsearching "B3S23pseudoclusters" (which only captures pseudo objects without capturing quasi objects or constellations); see the forum post viewtopic.php?f=16&t=6464#p197611

I don't see how this is any different from https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/Pseudo_C1.

confocaloid · Post by **confocaloid** » November 9th, 2024, 8:16 am

hotdogPi wrote: November 9th, 2024, 8:13 am
confocaloid wrote: November 9th, 2024, 8:04 am I'm currently apgsearching "B3S23pseudoclusters" (which only captures pseudo objects without capturing quasi objects or constellations); see the forum post viewtopic.php?f=16&t=6464#p197611
I don't see how this is any different from https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/Pseudo_C1.

That one is apparently undocumented (where it comes from?), and it is unclear how it was generated, whether it really captures all pseudo objects and only pseudo objects (e.g. does it capture pseudo oscillators? How about spaceships?)

A dedicated ruletable is better, because it is easier to understand what becomes an "object", and also because it becomes possible to use unmodified official apgsearch.

Someone should upload the ruletable posted in viewtopic.php?p=197611#p197611 (which is what I'm using to submit hauls), so that it will be possible to preview the pseudo objects in /census/x2xb3s23pseudoclusters/C1.

d/dx · Post by **d/dx** » November 9th, 2024, 11:45 am

On an artistic note: I really love how the b3s23cluster rule looks. It's kind of ethereal, but also art deco, how the outlines kind of envelop the active regions.

confocaloid · Post by **confocaloid** » November 10th, 2024, 2:38 am

An update:

I submitted a hundred 10000-soup hauls into /census/x2xb3s23pseudoclusters/C1.
In particular, the most common non-strict pseudo p2 oscillator in the C1 census is this (xp2_rrzw33_44):
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```
x = 4, y = 7, rule = B3S23pseudoclusters
2A$2A$2B$2A$2A$2.2A$2.2A!
```
Currently apgsearching other censuses: /census/x2xb3s23pseudoclusters

confocaloid wrote: November 9th, 2024, 8:16 am Someone should upload the ruletable posted in viewtopic.php?p=197611#p197611 (which is what I'm using to submit hauls), so that it will be possible to preview the pseudo objects in /census/x2xb3s23pseudoclusters/C1.

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