ConwayLife Skyscraper
Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Floors 1950 to 2024 (and an unknown number higher to the next number, which are locked until that year and ascend at least to 2050), including floor 1984 which was mentioned previously (as well as other floors mentioned), include portals to that year on earth, corresponding to the date on which you enter (you get to choose where you pop out, it doesn't automatically send you to the bottom of the sea or the outside of an airplane). Floors 1969 and after also have a portal which takes you to a GOL field with everything discovered in CGOL from that year.
Another interesting fact is you will get tickets to and be transported to whatever music concert you would like which occurred in the respective year you enter, all you have to do is say the concert as you enter before/on the date of the concert in that year. Note that you still age naturally except when going to concerts, in which you will be de-aged to your prime, though it only lasts as long as the concert. To get out you lift up one leg, hop on the other foot, close your eyes, and say "ConwayLife Skyscraper now!". The year repeats after Dec 31, so you will be stuck in a time loop if you can't get out.
Also, floor 1111 is a frozen snapshot of earth as it was on November 11th of 1111 AD/CE at exactly 11:11:112
Another interesting fact is you will get tickets to and be transported to whatever music concert you would like which occurred in the respective year you enter, all you have to do is say the concert as you enter before/on the date of the concert in that year. Note that you still age naturally except when going to concerts, in which you will be de-aged to your prime, though it only lasts as long as the concert. To get out you lift up one leg, hop on the other foot, close your eyes, and say "ConwayLife Skyscraper now!". The year repeats after Dec 31, so you will be stuck in a time loop if you can't get out.
Also, floor 1111 is a frozen snapshot of earth as it was on November 11th of 1111 AD/CE at exactly 11:11:112
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Floor 252 is a linguistics study center.
Floor 253 has the property that it can only contain three spiders at a time. If more are introduced, than the ones inside the floor will fall to floor 252 as if the floor of floor 253 didn’t exist, and if ones are removed, more will manifest.
Floor 253 has the property that it can only contain three spiders at a time. If more are introduced, than the ones inside the floor will fall to floor 252 as if the floor of floor 253 didn’t exist, and if ones are removed, more will manifest.
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Floor 07/30/2024_05:14 is Petrun frozen in time at 07/30/2024 05:14 UTC.haaaaaands wrote: July 29th, 2024, 5:23 am floor 01/01/1970_00:00:00 is the start of time.
(at least according to unix timestamps)
There you can see me writing this post.
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Floors date.1.1.1.00:00.UTC to date.07.30.2024.05:00.UTC are each given a time machine to the corresponding dates and a place you choose.WhiteHawk wrote: July 29th, 2024, 8:43 pm Floors 1950 to 2024 (and an unknown number higher to the next number, which are locked until that year and ascend at least to 2050), including floor 1984 which was mentioned previously (as well as other floors mentioned), include portals to that year on earth, corresponding to the date on which you enter (you get to choose where you pop out, it doesn't automatically send you to the bottom of the sea or the outside of an airplane). Floors 1969 and after also have a portal which takes you to a GOL field with everything discovered in CGOL from that year.
Another interesting fact is you will get tickets to and be transported to whatever music concert you would like which occurred in the respective year you enter, all you have to do is say the concert as you enter before/on the date of the concert in that year. Note that you still age naturally except when going to concerts, in which you will be de-aged to your prime, though it only lasts as long as the concert. To get out you lift up one leg, hop on the other foot, close your eyes, and say "ConwayLife Skyscraper now!". The year repeats after Dec 31, so you will be stuck in a time loop if you can't get out.
Also, floor 1111 is a frozen snapshot of earth as it was on November 11th of 1111 AD/CE at exactly 11:11:112 (same with floor 111)
To teleport to the present, say: "Go back to the present!"
To teleport to Conwaylife Skyscraper, say: "Go back to Conwaylife Skyscraper Floor [floor name here]". You will teleport to the said floor and to the present.
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
No, floor 111 isn’t the same as floor 1111. This is floor 111:WhiteHawk wrote: July 29th, 2024, 8:43 pm Also, floor 1111 is a frozen snapshot of earth as it was on November 11th of 1111 AD/CE at exactly 11:11:112 (same with floor 111)
hotcrystal0 wrote: November 18th, 2023, 7:42 pm Floor 111 contains a portal to another universe. It is theorized that the alternate universe is where the intelligent spiders in the skyscraper come from.
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4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Thanks! My mistake.No, floor 111 isn’t the same as floor 1111. This is floor 111:hotcrystal0 wrote: November 18th, 2023, 7:42 pm Floor 111 contains a portal to another universe. It is theorized that the alternate universe is where the intelligent spiders in the skyscraper come from.
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Floor number 394 leads into a labyrinth - imagine something like an Egyptian tomb. At the entrance, though, there is a touchpad self-service kiosk which points you in the direction of chambers with any generic treasure you would like to find (Genie Lamp, enchanted sword, diamonds and gems, perfect avocado, etc., not specific items like the Holy Grail or Excalibur). Make sure to ask for the way out too, since the passages shift hourly.
EDIT 2: Given how a lot of the floors listed here aren't just numbers, does the elevator have a touchpad of some sort where you can type in the floor even if it's not entirely numeric? I would also assume it is an elevator of the same manufacture of the one from Charlie and the Chocolate factory.
Also floor 711 is a portal to any 7-11 on earth. Good luck getting back, though.
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
No, it has a keypad, which looks like this:WhiteHawk wrote: August 10th, 2024, 3:05 pm EDIT 2: Given how a lot of the floors listed here aren't just numbers, does the elevator have a touchpad of some sort where you can type in the floor even if it's not entirely numeric? I would also assume it is an elevator of the same manufacture of the one from Charlie and the Chocolate factory.
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No other punctuation (! < > ? % ^@, etc.)?hotcrystal0 wrote: August 10th, 2024, 4:35 pmNo, it has a keypad, which looks like this:WhiteHawk wrote: August 10th, 2024, 3:05 pm EDIT 2: Given how a lot of the floors listed here aren't just numbers, does the elevator have a touchpad of some sort where you can type in the floor even if it's not entirely numeric? I would also assume it is an elevator of the same manufacture of the one from Charlie and the Chocolate factory.
Swap changes the buttons to letters, and can be pressed again to change back to numbers.Code: Select all
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Double-pressing swap will lead to advanced mode, which contains punctuation marks, number theory symbols, and calculus symbols. Press again to get to normal.WhiteHawk wrote: August 10th, 2024, 4:36 pmNo other punctuation (! < > ? % ^@, etc.)?hotcrystal0 wrote: August 10th, 2024, 4:35 pm
No, it has a keypad, which looks like this:
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Redstoneboi wrote: June 24th, 2020, 6:07 am Floor gang is known as the roof of the skyscraper and therefore has no ceiling
Banananananan wrote: July 27th, 2024, 12:39 am
Floor 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 is the final floor that doesn't become an illegal position to normal people due to the glitches that are appearing (they can sometimes appear at floors after 2,147,483,648. But are a bit rare).
That is not true.unname4798 wrote: July 27th, 2024, 12:03 am Floor MAX_SAFE_INTEGER is the highest floor in Skyscraper.
Floor 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,001 (googol plus one) is 5 meters by 5 meters, and contains a computer running the software in floor DOS. Most commands have a humorous output (as described in floor DOS), but typing some specific commands will open a floor of the skyscraper that can be accessed digitally (it depends on the command), as an alternative to the elevator with the keypad.
Here is the list:
(format: floor-number (COMMAND) [physical or digital])
34 (PEANUT) [partly physical]
229 (FLOORLIST) [fully digital]
18 (STUB) [partly physical]
255 (UINT -3) [partly physical]
261 (PHYSICS) [used for physical teleportation operations, will be explained in another post]
There are more floors, but I’ll list them later.
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o2bo4bo$o2bob2o3b4o$b3obo$5bo4b4o$b3ob3o2bo2bo$o2bo4bobo$2obob3o2b2o4b
2o$3bobo4bo4bobo$3bobo6bobobo$4bo6b2ob2o$11bo$13b2obo$12b2ob2o!
Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
I think some of us automatically know what lies on floor 8675309 (AKA Jenny)
Relatedly, the floor 8675308 is a vinyl/CD store with stairs leading to floor 8675309.
Also, never press the button labeled "up" in the elevator - use the up arrow button instead - as it’s broken and the elevator will go full Never Gonna Give You Up mode once you press it.
Relatedly, the floor 8675308 is a vinyl/CD store with stairs leading to floor 8675309.
Also, never press the button labeled "up" in the elevator - use the up arrow button instead - as it’s broken and the elevator will go full Never Gonna Give You Up mode once you press it.
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2o$3bobo4bo4bobo$3bobo6bobobo$4bo6b2ob2o$11bo$13b2obo$12b2ob2o!
Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Floor 482719 is a redirect to floor 482720.
Floor 482720 is a redirect to floor 482719.
Floor 1028382 is a redirect to itself.
Don’t go to these floors.
They are just some test.
Floor 482720 is a redirect to floor 482719.
Floor 1028382 is a redirect to itself.
Don’t go to these floors.
They are just some test.
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
The quoted floors actually contain a whiteboard saying "Redirect loop detected".pifricted wrote: August 22nd, 2024, 4:22 am Floor 482719 is a redirect to floor 482720.
Floor 482720 is a redirect to floor 482719.
Floor 1028382 is a redirect to itself.
Don’t go to these floors.
They are just some test.
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Floor 125 never existed since rutabaga revealed that floor 123 yee isn’t the same as Floor 123.
Floor 125 contains five computers running SpiderOS 5.5.5. The first one contains an anomalous file called “clonefive.txt” which when opened makes 5 clones of you. Its contents is just 36474 5’s. The fourth computer contains an anomalous file called “tele.exe” which when run will teleport you to Floor 5. The anomalous files cannot be deleted or modified in any way, and copies of them retain the same properties.
Floor 125 contains five computers running SpiderOS 5.5.5. The first one contains an anomalous file called “clonefive.txt” which when opened makes 5 clones of you. Its contents is just 36474 5’s. The fourth computer contains an anomalous file called “tele.exe” which when run will teleport you to Floor 5. The anomalous files cannot be deleted or modified in any way, and copies of them retain the same properties.
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
The third computer contains SpiderStore, SpiderBrowser and SpiderFiles.hotcrystal0 wrote: August 22nd, 2024, 10:28 am Floor 125 never existed since rutabaga revealed that floor 123 yee isn’t the same as Floor 123.
Floor 125 contains five computers running SpiderOS 5.5.5. The first one contains an anomalous file called “clonefive.txt” which when opened makes 5 clones of you. Its contents is just 36474 5’s. The fourth computer contains an anomalous file called “tele.exe” which when run will teleport you to Floor 5. The anomalous files cannot be deleted or modified in any way, and copies of them retain the same properties.
SpiderStore contains the "Apps" tab and a button "Create a new app".
Clicking the button opens a new window with a textbox - the program, app icon upload form, banner upload form, screenshots upload form and description.
Clicking an app in the "Apps" tab opens a new window with the banner, app icon, the "Install" button, the screenshots, the description and reviews.
Clicking "Review" button opens a new window with two textboxes: the name and the review text and one button: "Submit".
SpiderBrowser contains tabs, the address bar, two buttons "Set as favorite" and "Settings".
Clicking the "Settings" button opens a new tab with permissions and font settings (size, fallback font).
SpiderFiles contains tabs and a list of folders and files.
Clicking a folder opens a new tab with contents of the clicked folder.
Clicking a Spider Executable file (.SPE) will execute the program.
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Floor 16! contains all Margolus reversible CA
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
The floors 34 and 229 are also available via dimension {}ennghallie-AJ wrote: August 18th, 2024, 3:43 amRedstoneboi wrote: June 24th, 2020, 6:07 am Floor gang is known as the roof of the skyscraper and therefore has no ceilingBanananananan wrote: July 27th, 2024, 12:39 am
Floor 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 is the final floor that doesn't become an illegal position to normal people due to the glitches that are appearing (they can sometimes appear at floors after 2,147,483,648. But are a bit rare).That is not true.unname4798 wrote: July 27th, 2024, 12:03 am Floor MAX_SAFE_INTEGER is the highest floor in Skyscraper.
Floor 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,001 is 5 meters by 5 meters, and contains a computer running the software in floor DOS. Typing some certain commands will open a floor of the skyscraper that can only be accessed digitally (it depends on the command).
Here is the list:
34 (PEANUT)
229 (FLOORLIST)
There are more floors, but I’ll list them later.
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Except for Floor 1984.WhiteHawk wrote: July 29th, 2024, 8:43 pm Floors 1950 to 2024 (and an unknown number higher to the next number, which are locked until that year and ascend at least to 2050), including floor 1984 which was mentioned previously (as well as other floors mentioned), include portals to that year on earth, corresponding to the date on which you enter (you get to choose where you pop out, it doesn't automatically send you to the bottom of the sea or the outside of an airplane). Floors 1969 and after also have a portal which takes you to a GOL field with everything discovered in CGOL from that year.
Hunting wrote: May 15th, 2020, 7:47 am Floor 1984 is where I live. It has a volume of -214748647 m³.
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Floor 1984 does both things. It's actually part of the security system for the apartment since anyone not invited in will be sent back to 1984.hotcrystal0 wrote: August 26th, 2024, 7:23 pmExcept for Floor 1984.WhiteHawk wrote: July 29th, 2024, 8:43 pm Floors 1950 to 2024 (and an unknown number higher to the next number, which are locked until that year and ascend at least to 2050), including floor 1984 which was mentioned previously (as well as other floors mentioned), include portals to that year on earth, corresponding to the date on which you enter (you get to choose where you pop out, it doesn't automatically send you to the bottom of the sea or the outside of an airplane). Floors 1969 and after also have a portal which takes you to a GOL field with everything discovered in CGOL from that year.Hunting wrote: May 15th, 2020, 7:47 am Floor 1984 is where I live. It has a volume of -214748647 m³.
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
floor sqrt(e)+(e_1)-(e_2)+pi^(e_3)-(e_7)*(e_6-1) (Octonions
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has trees who's branches end in exactly sqrt(e^2+pi^2)+i tentacles and exactly e_1+e_5^cbrt(pi) spider legs for roots
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has trees who's branches end in exactly sqrt(e^2+pi^2)+i tentacles and exactly e_1+e_5^cbrt(pi) spider legs for roots
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Floor 34 can also be accessed physically, but you have to be able to fit inside of it, because it’s a peanut.ennghallie-AJ wrote: August 18th, 2024, 3:43 am
Floor 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,001 is 5 meters by 5 meters, and contains a computer running the software in floor DOS. Typing some certain commands will open a floor of the skyscraper that can only be accessed digitally (it depends on the command).
Here is the list:
34 (PEANUT)
229 (FLOORLIST)
There are more floors, but I’ll list them later.
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
floor aphef_sqrt(pi-e^4) floats above the highest floor and has spider legs
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floor 42*T (T=True) contains the most interesting rule in the galaxy which, if you start playing with it you will keep playing with it forever also the rule eats spiders
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floor 42*T (T=True) contains the most interesting rule in the galaxy which, if you start playing with it you will keep playing with it forever also the rule eats spiders
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Re: ConwayLife Skyscraper
Floor log(2^^TREE(3))+i^j is one massive rickroll, everything, the floor, the walls, the ceiling is all one massive rickroll, also, there is a clue that can only be discovered by a person with an exact wallnut for a brain.
Floor Rayo(i+7×10^100) is 0x0 zylackos meters across and contains text saying walnuts + ?=salad in big 10×10 zylackos meters letters (a zylackos meter is so big it darwfs rayo's number)
Floor {Rayo(10^10)-1,1} contains a pea, only people with an IQ of i-j can access the pea and those who can won't for inconvisable reasons related to eating bread while not eating it
Floor G({1,2,3,4,5})+i contains confocaloid surounded by lobsters that multi post and are resentful of spiders
Floor g(5i) is a redirect to every other floor
Floor Rayo(i+7×10^100) is 0x0 zylackos meters across and contains text saying walnuts + ?=salad in big 10×10 zylackos meters letters (a zylackos meter is so big it darwfs rayo's number)
Floor {Rayo(10^10)-1,1} contains a pea, only people with an IQ of i-j can access the pea and those who can won't for inconvisable reasons related to eating bread while not eating it
Floor G({1,2,3,4,5})+i contains confocaloid surounded by lobsters that multi post and are resentful of spiders
Floor g(5i) is a redirect to every other floor
Last edited by CARuler on August 30th, 2024, 11:35 am, edited 3 times in total.
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vist my rules here
also likes weird growth patterns in CA
hyperbolic CA!!!
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