Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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Hello everyone!

This rule is the isotropic minrule of the following oscillator, which we shall call the O:

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
2bo$bobo$o3bo$bobo$2bo!
Sample soup:

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x = 100, y = 100, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
3b2o4b4o6b2ob2o2b2o7bob2obo7bobobobo3bo2b4ob3ob2o4bobobobob4obobobo3b
obo$2o2bob2obo3bo2bobobo5bo8b5ob4obo5b4obo2bo2bobob2o5b2o3bo4bobob3o5b
2o$4obobob4o4bo2b4o2bob2o2bo4bobo2b2obo2bo3b4o5b3o2b4ob2obo6b3obo2bo3b
2o2b3o$3obo2b2o3bob2ob3o6b5ob5o2bob2o3bo2b2obo12b2obo7b5o7bob3o4bo$2o
bobobob5o5b2o3bo2bo6bobo2b3o2bob4o5bo4bo4bo4bobob3o3bob4obo2b4o2b2obo
$2bobo3b6o2bob3obo3bo3bob3o2bobo3b2obo5bo3b2o4b3o2bob3obob4obobob2o3b
obobob2obo$2b3ob3obo3b2ob2o3b2obob3ob2obobo7bobob2o3bo4b3o6b2o4bo2bob
4o3b3ob2ob2obob3o$bo4b6o2b2o4b2o4b2obob3o2b2ob2o2bob2ob5o2bo4bob3o2bo
2bob2obo5bobob2o4bo2b3obo$4o2b2ob3o2b7o2bo3bobo2bo2b5o3b2ob3ob4ob5o2b
o2b4obob5ob4ob3o2b2obo2b2obo$5b3obo6b3ob2o2bo2bobo2bob3obo2b2o2bobo3b
o2bo2bob6ob4ob2obobo2b2o4bo2b2obobo3b2o$2o2b2obo4b7o2b2ob3o8b2obo2b3o
2bobobob2o2b2ob2o4b3o5bobo3b10o2b3obobo$3obo5b3o5bobo4b4o3bob3ob3o2bo
7b2o3b3o6b3o2bob2ob6obob3o2b3obobo$b2o3bo2b3ob8obob2o2bo2b4o2b4ob2o2b
obo2b3ob2o3bob2o2bobo4bobobo2bobo2b2o2b3ob4o$ob2o2bob2obobob2o2bo5bo5b
4ob2o2bobo7b3o3b2o2bobob3ob3ob2o3bo2b2o2b3o7bob4o$2b3ob3ob2obob2ob3ob
o9b2o2b4obo2b3o3b2o2b5ob2o3b3ob2ob3o2b2o6bo2b5ob2obo$o3b2obo4b2obob3o
2b2ob5o4bob4ob2ob5o3bob5obob2o2bo2bobo4bobobobobob5ob2o2bob2o$obobobo
b2o9bo2bob2ob4ob2o2bo3bob3ob5o2b4o2b3o2b2ob2obo3bo4b2obobob2ob2ob3o3b
2o$bo2b3o2b3o3bob2o2b7obo2b4obo3b3o4bo2bo2bobo2b3o2b7o2b3o3bobo4bo2b2o
b2ob2o$obo3bo2bobob2ob3o3bo2b4obo3b2ob2ob4o3b2o2bo2bo3b2o2bo4b2o3bo3b
ob2obo3bo4b2o2bo4bo$obob3obo2b4obo2bob2ob2o3b2obo2bobo3b2ob4ob5obob3o
bo2b2o3b3obo3b3o3b2o3b3ob3obobo$obo2b2o2bob2o2bob3obobob2o2b3o2bo2bob
o2bob3o3b2obobo4bobo3b2obobobob3ob4obo4bobo3bob2o$3b5ob2o2b5o4bob5o3b
3o2bob2o2bob2obob3o3b3o3bob5ob3ob5o4b9o7bo$b5obobo3bob2obobobo2bobob3o
b3ob5o2b4o4b2obob2o2bobob2o2b2o2b2o2b4o2bobobob2obo2bo2bo$ob3obo2b2o2b
ob2o3bo2bob2ob6o2bo2b2ob6o3b3o3b2o4bo2b2ob6o2b2o2b2obo3bo2bobobo2b2o$
o6b4o2bo4b3ob2obobo2b2obob2o2bo9bobobob3obob2ob4o2bob3obo2bo4bobo2bo2b
2o3b3o$2b3ob2o2b3o2b3o2b2ob2o2bo4b3obob2o2bo2bo3bob2o4bob2ob2ob2o2b2o
3bo2b3o2bob2o2bobob2o$o2b3o5b3o4bo2b3o6b6ob2o6b2o2b3o3b3o5b2obob3o2b2o
5b2ob2o2b2o2bo3bo2bo$o7b3o4bo2bo2bob5o2b5o6b3obobo2b2o5bo2b3o2b2ob2ob
2ob2ob2o3b3ob4ob3o2bobo$2o5b2o4b2o3b2obo2b2o2b2o3b3obob5ob3obobo3b6o2b
8o5b3obobobob4obo3bobo$3ob2obo2b2o2b2obo5b2obob2ob2ob4obo3bob2o2bob5o
2bo3b3o2bob4o3bobo3bo2b2obo2bo2bo3bo$3o2bob5obobob2obob4o4bo3b3obo3bo
bobob2ob2ob3obo4b2o3b2obobob2obo2b7obo2b4ob2o$o3bo3b4o2bo4b4obo4bobob
obo5bo2b2o2bobo2bobo2bo2bo2b2ob5ob3ob3ob3ob9ob2obo$8obobob5ob2obob8o3b
2o4b4obob2o5b2o3b3ob6ob7o2bobo2bo5bob3ob2o$2ob3ob2obob2o3b2ob2o3b5obo
bo3b3ob7o3b2o2b2obo2b5ob2o2bobo2bo2b2o3b2o2bo4bob2o2bo$o4b2o2b4ob3o4b
o2b2o2b2o3bobo2b2o2b2o3b3ob2o2bo5bobo2bob2ob3obo2b2o2bobo4b4o3bob2o$4b
4o2bobob3obo2bobo3bo2b2o2bo2bob3o3b4obo4b2o2b7obob11o3b2ob2ob2ob3o$2b
ob3ob3o4bobo2b2o2b2ob6o3b2obob2obob2o2bobobob2ob3o3b2ob2o7bo3bobo2bob
ob2o2b2o2b2o$o2b3o4b4o3b2ob2o3bobo2b3obo2bobobobob2o3b7o2bo2bobo3bo2b
2o2b2obob3o2bob4ob2o3bo$b2ob5o2b3ob4obo4bob2o3bobo2bobob4ob2ob7ob2o3b
ob3o2b2o2bo3bobob3o2bobob8obo$2b3obob3ob5ob2o3b7obo3b2o3b4o2bob2ob3o7b
obo3bob3ob4ob2o4b3obo2b4obobo$o4bobobobob6o2b3o2bo2b2o2b2o3b4o2b2o4bo
b2ob3ob2obob6ob5o3bo2bobo5b2obobob3o$3o3bo3b3o12bobobob2o6b2o2bo2b2o2b
2o2b7obo3b5o2bo2b4ob4o2bob3obobo$ob6o4b6o3bob2obo2b4o3b3ob4o3b2obo3bo
bobo2bobo2b5o2b2o3b3o3bo3b2obo2b2ob3o$o4bob2ob2ob2ob3o2bobo3b2o6b2obo
b2ob2ob10obob4ob2ob2o3b2o4b2ob5o2b3obo3bob2o$bo3b2o2b2o5b2o3b4ob2ob2o
bo3bob3ob3ob2o2bo4b3obo2b4ob2o3bob6ob2o3bo2bob2o2b4o$3bo3bob2ob2o2b6o
5b2o2bobob3o2bob6obo2bobo2bo3bo2b3obob4ob7ob4obo2b2o4b2o$ob3o3b2o2bo2b
2o2b5obo3b2o7bo2b3obo2b2ob2o2b4ob2obob4o3bo3b3o2bobob2o4b3o2b2o$b2ob2o
2b3obo2b3o2bo2b2obob3o2bob2ob2o4b2obo7b3ob2o2b2obo4bob2obobo2b3ob2obo
5b2ob2o$5obob2obobo2bo2bo2bo3bo2bo4b2o4b2ob2o3bo2bobo2b2o7b2ob2obobob
obo5bo3bobo3bob3obo$4b2ob2o2b3o4bobo7bobob3ob2ob2o2b4ob3o2bo2b2obobob
obo2b3o2b3o5b3o2b3obobobo2bo$2bobob5ob6obobob2o3b2ob2obo2bo4bob2obobo
5bobob2ob3o2bobo3bobobobobob3ob3o2bob2o$7obob3ob4o2bobo2b2ob3obo5b3ob
o3b2obo2b3ob4ob4ob2ob2o8b5o3b4o2b4o2bo$o4bo2b2ob4o4b2o2bobob4o3b3ob3o
b2o6b2o2bo2b5obo3bob2o2b2ob4o2b6o4bo3b2obo$2o2b3ob3obobobob3o2bobo3bo
2b3o3b2o3bob2ob2ob4obobobobobob4o2b2ob5o2bob2o3bob4o$bo5b4ob2o3b7o5bo
4b5ob4obo2bo2bob2obobobob2obo2b3ob3obobo2bo2bo2bo3b5o2bo$5ob3o3b2o4bo
b3o4bo4b2ob2ob2obo2bo2bo2b2obo3b2ob5o2b2ob4o3b2obob2ob7obob2obo$ob3o2b
2o4bob2ob4o2bo2b2obo4b3o4bo2bobob2o4b3o3bobob4o3bo5bobo3b2ob2o3b2ob5o
$4b2o3b3o2bob8obo3bo4b3ob3ob3ob4ob2o2bo2b3ob3obob3o4b6ob2o3b3o4b3o$4b
obob2o5b2o3bo5bobo2b2obobo3b2obob4o4b4o2b3ob2obo2b7o2b3o4bobo2bob2o3b
2o$bo4b3obobobobo4bobo4b4o4bo2b2ob2ob2obobob2o2b6o2b3o3bob2o3bo2b2o4b
ob2obo5bobo$b2o2b2ob4o4bo2bobo2b3ob2o2bobob3o4bo3bo3bob3o2bob6ob3obob
o3b2ob3ob2o2bob5o4bo$bo5bob3o3b3ob2o2bo3b2o2bob4ob2obo2b3obob2o2bo2b2o
b2obobob4ob2o7b2obobo2bo3bo4bo$2bob4ob3obo4b2obobobobob2obo3b5ob7ob3o
b3ob4o4bob3o2bobo2bo2bo2bobob2o6bobo$obobo2b2o3b2o2b2o2b4obobo5bo2b6o
b2o3bobobo2bob2obo2bo2bo2bobob2ob2obo4bobo3b3o3b2o$4bo2bo3bobo9bo3b2o
bobobo4bobo4b2o5bob6obo3bo2bob2ob5obo2b10o2b5o$ob3o3bo5bo3b4o5bobo2bo
b2o2bo2b6o3b4ob3ob2ob2obobo4bobob5o3b2obobob6obo$b3obob3o2b4obo2bob7o
bobob4o6b2o3b3o2b2o2bo2b2o3b2o3b3ob4o4b6obo3b3obo$4o3bobo2bo2b3obo2b3o
b2o2b4o2bo2b4obobo5bobo2b2obo2b2o7bob3o2bo3bobobobob2ob4obo$obob4o3bo
b2o2bobo2b2obo2bob3o3bobo2bo2b2o2b2o2b4ob3ob2o2b2o5b7obobobobob3ob6o$
bobobo2b2ob3ob2o4bob2o2bo2bob3obo2bo2b7o4bo3b4o4bo4b3o3b2o2bob2o3bo6b
ob2obo$4o2bob2ob2o2bo3b2o5bob2o2bob3o2bobobo2b5o2b4o2b2obo2b8o2bob3o4b
ob6o4bo$2o2bobobo2bobob2ob2o3b3ob3obo2b8obo2b2obobo3b2obo2bob2obob5ob
ob2o5bobo4bobo3b2o$obo2b2o3b2o2b2o2bob2ob2o3bo3b2o2b3o6bobobobo8bob2o
b8o2bo2b2o3b2o2b2obo3bo$2b2ob4o2b3ob2o2b2ob2o2bobobobob2o3bob2ob3o2bo
b2ob2obob5obob4ob3obo5b2o2b3o5bo2bobo$3bob4ob4o2bobo2bo2b2o3b3o2bob6o
bob5o2bo8bobo3bobo4b2obo2bo3b4obobo3b2ob2o$2obobobob2obob2o3bo3b3ob2o
2b2o3bo2b2obo7bob2ob4o6bo2bo2bob4o2bo4bo4bob2o2b2obo$3b3o2b3o2b4o2b3o
2b3ob6ob3ob2o5bo2b4o2bob2ob3o4bob2ob2o3b4obob3o3b2ob2ob4o$ob2o5b2ob4o
bo2bo2b4o3bobob3ob2o2b4o9b2o3bo4bo3bobo2b2o2b2o3bo2bo3bo2bobob2o$ob3o
2bo3b2o3bob2o5bo2bo3b3obobob2obob4o5bo2b3o5bo2b3o2b2ob4o3bobo2b2o3bob
o3bo$2bob2obo2b4o2bobo2bo3b2ob2o2bobo3bo2bo5b2obob5o2bo2b2o3bobo2bobo
bob2ob2o3bo4b2obo3b2o$5ob2obo4b3o6b2obobo2b3obobob2o3bob2o4bobob2o2bo
4bob2o3b4o2bob4o2b2o3bobob2o2bo$4ob2o3b4o2b2ob3o3bob3o5bo2bobo3b2obo7b
2obobobobo2b3o2bobob4obo4b2obo3b2o2bo$2b4ob2o2bobo2bo2bo3b2ob4o2b2obo
bo2bo3b4o3bo3bo2b3o2bob3obob10obob3obo2bobob3o$b3ob2o5bo3bobobob2ob2o
bo2b2o2bo3bob4obo2b2obo2b2ob4obo4b4o2b2obo3b6obobobobob2obo$obo3bo2bo
b2o5bo2b2o5b2o3b4o2bo2b2ob5ob2o3bo2bobobo2bo2bobobo3bob3obo3b2ob2obob
3o$3obob2o2b3obob2ob3o2b5o3b2ob3ob5o3bobob3o2bo3bo2bo2bobob3o2b5o2bob
o2b2obob3o2bo$bob6o2b2o3bo7bo3bo3b3o3bo4bo2bo4bob3o2bo2b2obo3b3ob2ob3o
b3o2bob3ob8obo$3b4o2b5ob2o2b2o3bo2bo5bo2b4obobob3o2bobobo4bobobob9o3b
o3b2ob2o4b2ob3ob2o$2o3b2ob3o3b2ob2obob5o2bobo2b3obo3bobob2obob3o2bo2b
2o5b2o3bobo2b3o2b3obo3b6obobo$bobo2bo2b2o2b6o3bo2bo2b3ob2o3bo6bob3o2b
o3b3obob9o3b2o4bob2ob3o2b6o$b4obob2obo2b2o3b2obo2bobo2b2o2b2o2bo2b2ob
obob3ob5o3bob2o3bob2o2b6obob3o2b5o3b3obo$3o2bobob2o3bobo3b6obobob2obo
bo2bobo4b3obobo2b2o2bob2ob6ob6obo3bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo$2bob4o3bo3bob3obob
2o3bob6o7b4o3b3o4bo2b2ob2ob2ob2ob2o2bo2bo2bo2bob2ob2obo5bo$4o3b2obob3o
b2obob2obo3bobo4bobo2bob2o3bo2bobo5b3obobobob2obobob3obo4b4obob4ob2ob
o$3b4o4b3ob2obob2ob3o2b3o5bo6bo2bob2o3b4obob2o2b2o2b2o2bob3o3b6obo4b3o
2bo$5bo3b2ob2o2bo2bobo2bo6b7o2bo2b2o2b7obo2bo5b5o2bo2bo4b2o2b4o2b2o8b
o$b3o4b3o4bobo2bo2bob2obobobobobob4ob2o3bob2ob2ob7o2b2o2bob3o2bo2b2ob
o3b2o3b2ob6o$bo3b3o2b2o4bo2bobo2b2ob3ob2obo3bo4bob5ob2obobobob3obo4b2o
bo4bo3b2o3bo4bobo2b2o$bob2ob2ob2ob2o4b2o2b2o3b3o3bobob2o2b2obobobo2b3o
b2ob2ob3o2bo3bo2b3o3b3o3b2obo2b2o3b2o$2o2b2obo4bobob5obo3b2obo2b3ob2o
b2o3b2ob4o3bo3b2ob5obob11obo2bo5b5o3bo!
Still lives:

By far the most common still life is the domino. Other still lives also exist, such as the following extensible one:

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x = 8, y = 2, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
2bo2bo$2ob2ob2o!
Oscillators:

This rule is named after its two most common oscillators: the statorless p7 above and the following statorless p12 (the L):

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
3o$2bo$2bo!
There's also a statorless p16 (the N):

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2ek3i4c8/S12cek
ob3o$4bo$obo$bo!
Some oscillators have a stator, like this p2:

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x = 5, y = 3, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
2ob2o2$2ob2o!
Spaceships:

The two most common spaceships are these:

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x = 9, y = 2, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
bo4b2o$obo2bo2bo!
The left one shall be called the V and the right one the B.

Misc:

All 2V collisions that produce something:

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x = 65, y = 172, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
58bo$59bo$58bo3$57bo$56bobo5$o$bo5bo$o5bo$7bo6$58bo$59bo$58bo$6bo$7bo
$6bo4b2o44b3o$11bo45bobo$11b2o4$6bo$7bo$6bo6bo$12bo$13bo4$58bo$59bo$6b
o51bo$7bo$6bo$12bo46bo$11bo46bobo$12bo7$6bo$7bo50bo$6bo52bo$58bo$11b2o
$11bo$11b2o45b3o$58bobo13$59bo$60bo$59bo3$61bo$60bobo11$59bo$60bo$59b
o3$60b3o$60bobo14$59bo$60bo$59bo3$62bo$61bobo12$59bo$60bo$59bo3$61b3o
$61bobo12$59bo$60bo$59bo3$63bo$62bobo13$59bo$60bo$59bo3$62b3o$62bobo!
One of them produces a B. It is surprising to me that none of them create an oscillator.

V + B synths of the O and the L:

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x = 8, y = 23, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
o$bo$o2$7bo$6bo$6bo$7bo8$o$bo$o4$2b4o$2bo2bo!
A B costs 2V, so these can be made into 3V synths.

V + L synth of N:

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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3i4c8/S12cek
14bo$14bo$14b3o$2o$bo$2o!
Over-unity (4V --> 8V + B)

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x = 11, y = 24, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
5bobo$6bo12$10bo$9bo$bo8bo$2bo$bo5$bo$obo!
Another (2B --> 8V)

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x = 8, y = 7, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
4bo2bo$5b2o4$b2o$o2bo!
Eaters:

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x = 7, y = 23, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
6bo$5bo$o4bo$o5bo6$o$o$6bo$o4bo$o5bo5$o$o5bo$bo3bo$o5bo$o!
Challenge: Find infinite growth in this rule.
Last edited by 635318657 on July 31st, 2024, 1:06 am, edited 6 times in total.

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x = 68, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ckqy4rz5r/S2-n3eijry5i6a
14bo25b2o10bo12b2o$3o10b3o10b3o10bobo10b2o11b2o$obo10bobo11bo13bo11b2o
10b3o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

Post by b-engine »

Accidental c/13 when colliding 2 Ls (the small p12):

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x = 7, y = 4, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
3bo$b2ob2o$o5bo$o5bo!
 
Here's how I found it, as a hint of V (the 3-cell c/2 ship; I prefer V over G because V spark) synthesis:

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x = 11, y = 3, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
2bo5bo$2bo5bo$3o5b3o!
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Last edited by b-engine on July 23rd, 2024, 6:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

Post by 635318657 »

b-engine wrote: July 23rd, 2024, 6:05 pm Accidental c/13 when colliding 2 Ls (the smaller but rarer p7):

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x = 7, y = 4, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
3bo$b2ob2o$o5bo$o5bo!
 
Here's how I found it, as a hint of V (the 3-cell c/2 ship; I prefer V over G because V spark) synthesis:

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x = 11, y = 3, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
2bo5bo$2bo5bo$3o5b3o!
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@635318657

Welcome back!

It's better to share a rule in Miscellaneous Discoveries in Other Cellular Automata before creating a thread for it, only after there're at least a few posts (I prefer 3) about it. If everyone on this forums creates a thread for every single rule they find, the server will quickly shut down afterwards due to too many threads.
Completed synth (7V):

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x = 24, y = 31, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
13bobo$14bo3$17bobo$18bo10$14bobo4bobo$3b2o10bo6bo$4bo$3b2o10$2o5b2o$
bo6bo$2o5b2o!
Edit: A V eater can advance a c/13 by 56 ticks:

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x = 7, y = 13, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
b2ob2o$3bo8$3bo$b2ob2o$o5bo$o5bo!
7c/35 fuse using the above reaction and accidental 7c/29 fuse:

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x = 7, y = 156, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
b2ob2o$3bo6$b2ob2o$3bo6$b2ob2o$3bo6$b2ob2o$3bo6$b2ob2o$3bo6$b2ob2o$3b
o6$b2ob2o$3bo6$b2ob2o$3bo6$b2ob2o$3bo6$b2ob2o$3bo6$b2ob2o$3bo8$3bo$b2o
b2o$o5bo$o5bo72$3bo$2bobo!
Last edited by 635318657 on July 30th, 2024, 10:05 pm, edited 17 times in total.

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x = 68, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ckqy4rz5r/S2-n3eijry5i6a
14bo25b2o10bo12b2o$3o10b3o10b3o10bobo10b2o11b2o$obo10bobo11bo13bo11b2o
10b3o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

Post by CasperWen8805181 »

Eater synth:

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x = 11, y = 77, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
4bobo$5bo39$o9bo$bo7bo$o9bo3$5bo$4bobo9$5bo$4bobo4$5bo$4bobo4$5bo$4bo
bo4$5bo$4bobo4$5bo$4bobo!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

Post by 635318657 »

A 5V for the c/13 based on the eater synth:

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x = 9, y = 13, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
obo3bobo$bo5bo6$o7bo$bo5bo$o7bo2$4bo$3bobo!
Another:

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x = 9, y = 13, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
o7bo$bo5bo$o7bo2$4bo$3bobo6$bo5bo$obo3bobo!
Any ideas for naming the c/13? Also, is there an eater for it?

Edit: 5V (2V + O) for two c/13s:

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x = 5, y = 23, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
bobo$b3o8$2bo$bobo$o3bo$bobo$2bo8$b3o$bobo!
Last edited by 635318657 on July 24th, 2024, 7:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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x = 68, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ckqy4rz5r/S2-n3eijry5i6a
14bo25b2o10bo12b2o$3o10b3o10b3o10bobo10b2o11b2o$obo10bobo11bo13bo11b2o
10b3o!
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Re: Statorless

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635318657 wrote: July 23rd, 2024, 10:08 pm Any ideas for naming the c/13? Also, is there an eater for it?
I decide to name it huge V (I name what you called big glider as moon). Here's an almost eater for it:

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x = 11, y = 13, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
4b3o10$2bo5bo$2bo5bo$3o5b3o!
Pulser (the most common p7 as I called, not to be confused with pulsar) duplication:

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x = 11, y = 26, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
4b3o10$2bo5bo$2bo5bo$3o5b3o10$2bo5bo$3bo3bo$obo5bobo$bo7bo!
EDIT:
Natural huge V seed that yields another 5V synthesis:

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x = 7, y = 11, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
bo$bo5$2o2$5b2o$5bo$5b2o!
If there's a 3V synthesize of the domino constellation, then we'll have a 4V synthesis.
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

Post by silversmith »

635318657 wrote: July 23rd, 2024, 3:27 pm Challenge: Find infinite growth in this rule.
I found several infinite growths using apgsearch.

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x = 139, y = 15, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek1
128b2o3$3bo$2bobo92b3o6b3o$97bobo6bobo10bo4b2o6b2o4bo$4bo11b2o11b4o6b
4o59b2o15bo2bo3bo4bo3bo2bo$bobo7bo3bo3bo9bo2bo6bo2bo27bo13bo16bo2bo16b
o4bo4bo4bo$bo3bo5bo3bo4bo13b4o31bobo11bobo14bo4bo15bo2b3o4b3o2bo$o4bo
9b3o2bobo9bo6bo34b2o3b2o20bo2bo$o5bo15bo50bo2bobo2bo12bo7b2o7bo$bo3bo
26bo2b2o2bo11b2o3b2o3b2o9bo9bo10bobo4bo4bo4bobo$bobobo45b2o3b2o3b2o11b
3ob3o18bobo2bobo$33bo4bo83b2o10b2o$15b2o!
Along with a 4c/16 spaceship

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x = 7, y = 4, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
o4b2o$b2o$3bobo$4bo!
The full census can be found here: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b2e ... 2cek/D4_+2
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Re: Statorless

Post by 635318657 »

Some more synths:

4V + M (moon) of the p2 in my first post without cleanup:

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x = 105, y = 26, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
47bo$48bo$47bo2$54bo$53bo$53bo$2o52bo48b2o$bo101bo$2o101b2o15$52bo$51b
obo!
4M without cleanup:

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x = 19, y = 15, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
4bo2bo3bo2bo$5b2o5b2o12$4o11b4o$o2bo11bo2bo!
2V + M of 4c/16:

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x = 6, y = 14, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
5bo$4bo$4bo$5bo4$2bo$bobo4$3o$obo!

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x = 68, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ckqy4rz5r/S2-n3eijry5i6a
14bo25b2o10bo12b2o$3o10b3o10b3o10bobo10b2o11b2o$obo10bobo11bo13bo11b2o
10b3o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

Post by b-engine »

Here's the p8 statorless V gun, after removing the excessive dominoes from the gun in silversmith's post:

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x = 6, y = 4, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
b2o$o3bo$o4bo$3o2bo!
Failed M gun:

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x = 74, y = 42, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
35b2o3$34b2o$29bo3bo3bo$29bo3bo4bo$33b3o2bobo$40bo21$68b2o2$6b2o2$5b2o
60b3o$4bo62bo2bo$o66bo2bo2bo$o2bo2bo66bo$3bo2bo62bo$4b3o60b2o2$66b2o2$
4b2o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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This form of a gun in a previous post seems useful for synthesizing:

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x = 20, y = 28, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
b2ob2o8b2ob2o14$9b2o5$o4b2o6b2o4bo$o2bo3bo4bo3bo2bo$2bo4bo4bo4bo$2bo2b
3o4b3o2bo5$3b2o10b2o!
It releases a moon every 96 ticks. Here's a (less useful) form that releases two Vs every 96 ticks:

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x = 20, y = 29, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
10b2o$14b2ob2o14$9b2o5$o4b2o6b2o4bo$o2bo3bo4bo3bo2bo$2bo4bo4bo4bo$2bo
2b3o4b3o2bo5$3b2o10b2o!
You can make many guns out of these basic guns. Here are a few examples:

p96 V gun:

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x = 47, y = 35, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
7b2o$27bo$5b2o20bo$o6bo$o26bo$5bo2bo18bo$5bo2bo28b2o$5b3o33b2ob2o2$13b
o$13bo2$5b3o$5bo2bo$5bo2bo18bo$o26bo$o6bo$5b2o20bo$27bo$7b2o2$36b2o5$
27bo4b2o6b2o4bo$27bo2bo3bo4bo3bo2bo$29bo4bo4bo4bo$29bo2b3o4b3o2bo5$30b
2o10b2o!
p192 V gun:

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x = 48, y = 46, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
7b2o$27bo$5b2o20bo$o6bo$o26bo$5bo2bo18bo$5bo2bo$5b3o2$13bo$13bo2$5b3o
$5bo2bo$5bo2bo18bo$o26bo$o6bo$5b2o20bo$27bob2ob2o8b2ob2o$7b2o13$37b2o
5$28bo4b2o6b2o4bo$28bo2bo3bo4bo3bo2bo$30bo4bo4bo4bo$30bo2b3o4b3o2bo5$
31b2o10b2o!
p192 V pair gun:

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x = 24, y = 72, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
3b2o10b2o4$6bo6bo$2bo2bobo4bobo2bo$2bo5bo2bo5bo$ob3o2bo4bo2b3obo$o3b4o
4b4o3bo5$9b2o14$b2ob2o8b2ob2o17$5b2ob2o8b2ob2o15$12b4o$11b2o2b2o3$4bo
4b2o6b2o4bo$4bo2bo3bo4bo3bo2bo$6bo4bo4bo4bo$6bo2b3o4b3o2bo3$8bobo6bob
o2$7b2o10b2o!
p192 M gun:

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x = 86, y = 60, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
77b2o$58bo$58bo20b2o$78bo6bo$58bo26bo$58bo18bo2bo$77bo2bo$78b3o2$72bo
$72bo2$78b3o$77bo2bo$7b2o49bo18bo2bo$27bo30bo26bo$5b2o20bo50bo6bo$o6b
o50bo20b2o$o26bo30bo$5bo2bo18bo49b2o$5bo2bo$5b3o2$13bo$13bo2$5b3o$5bo
2bo$5bo2bo18bo$o26bo$o6bo$5b2o20bo$27bob2ob2o8b2ob2o$7b2o13$37b2o5$28b
o4b2o6b2o4bo$28bo2bo3bo4bo3bo2bo$30bo4bo4bo4bo$30bo2b3o4b3o2bo5$31b2o
10b2o!
There's also this unrelated quad-barreled p36 V gun that seems more useful than the p8 V gun:

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x = 6, y = 7, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
bo$o2bo$o$bobo2$2bo2bo$3b2o!

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x = 68, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ckqy4rz5r/S2-n3eijry5i6a
14bo25b2o10bo12b2o$3o10b3o10b3o10bobo10b2o11b2o$obo10bobo11bo13bo11b2o
10b3o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

Post by 635318657 »

I just discovered the first gun for the 4c/16! Here it is:

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x = 147, y = 132, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
20b2o10b2o3$22b2o6b2o$21bo3bo2bo3bo$21bo4b2o4bo$21b3o2b2o2b3o$17bo18b
o$17bo18bo$22bobo4bobo$23bo6bo2$24bob2obo$22bo8bo$25b4o12$56b2o$18b2o
b2o8b2ob2obo$37bo$64bo$37bo20b3o3bo$27bobo7bo13bo3bo2bo2bo$54bo3bo2bo
$25bobobobo20bo2bo$28bo21bo9bo$25bobobobo18bobo5b2o$50bobo5b2o$27bobo
20bo9bo$52bo2bo$54bo3bo2bo$37bo13bo3bo2bo2bo76b2o$37bo20b3o3bo48bo$64b
o48bo26b2o$37bo101bo6bo$37bo75bo30bobo$56b2o55bo24bo2bo$124b3o4bobo4b
o2bo2bo$124bobo3bo2bo5b3o$123bo2bo4bobo$121bobobo$121bobobo$123bo2bo4b
obo$124bobo3bo2bo5b3o$124b3o4bobo4bo2bo2bo$113bo24bo2bo$113bo30bobo$139b
o6bo$113bo26b2o$113bo$138b2o$123b2o$98bo$98bo26b2o$124bo6bo$98bo30bob
o$98bo24bo2bo$7b2o100b3o4bobo4bo2bo2bo$27bo81bobo3bo2bo5b3o$27bo80bo2b
o4bobo$o4bo13b2o85bobobo$o2b2obo13bo6bo78bobobo$3bo3bob2o9bo6bo80bo2b
o4bobo$3bo2bo3bo98bobo3bo2bo5b3o$3b2o4b2o98b3o4bobo4bo2bo2bo$4bo93bo24b
o2bo$13bo11bo72bo30bobo$13bo11bo98bo6bo$4bo93bo26b2o$3b2o4b2o87bo$3bo
2bo3bo112b2o$3bo3bob2o9bo6bo35b2o$o2b2obo13bo6bo61bo$o4bo13b2o68bo$27b
o28bo$27bob2ob2o8b2ob2o9bo3b3o26bo$7b2o50bo2bo2bo3bo19bo$37b2o20bo2bo
3bo$65bo2bobo5bo$60bo7bobo2b3obo20bo$61b2o11bo3bo17bo3bo$61b2o11bo3bo
$31b3o8b3o15bo7bobo2b3obo17bo5bo$31bo12bo20bo2bobo5bo$59bo2bo3bo29bo3b
o$59bo2bo2bo3bo19bo8bo$56bo3b3o26bo$56bo$89bo$37b2o50bob2ob2o8b2ob2o$
63b2o2$33b3o4b3o$33bobo4bobo$28bo18bo$28bo4bo8bo4bo$32bobo6bobo$31bo12b
o$32bo2b2o2b2o2bo$32b4o4b4o$99b2o$98bo2bo$31b2o10b2o52bo4bo$98bo2bo$98b
4o$98bo2bo3$97b2o2b2o$95bo8bo$97b2o2b2o2$96bo6bo$95bobo4bobo$90bo18bo
$90bo18bo$94b3o2b2o2b3o$94bo4b2o4bo$94bo3bo2bo3bo$95b2o6b2o3$93b2o10b
2o!
I'm going to call the 4c/16 the "bird" because it looks like a bird flapping its wings.

Bird eater:

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x = 25, y = 6, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
24bo$24bo$o4b2o$b2o21bo$3bobo18bo$4bo!
Todo: Find a gun for the huge V and a breeder.

Todo: Build stable technology such as conduits, reflectors, splitters, and converters (and an eater for the huge V).

Edit: Turns out we don't need two of the back engines for the gun to work:

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x = 98, y = 112, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
20b2o10b2o3$22b2o6b2o$21bo3bo2bo3bo$21bo4b2o4bo$21b3o2b2o2b3o$17bo18b
o$17bo18bo$22bobo4bobo$23bo6bo2$24bob2obo$22bo8bo$25b4o12$56b2o$18b2o
b2o8b2ob2obo$37bo$64bo$37bo20b3o3bo$27bobo7bo13bo3bo2bo2bo$54bo3bo2bo
$25bobobobo20bo2bo$28bo21bo9bo$25bobobobo18bobo5b2o$50bobo5b2o$27bobo
20bo9bo$52bo2bo$54bo3bo2bo$37bo13bo3bo2bo2bo27b2o$37bo20b3o3bo$64bo$37b
o53b2o4bo$37bo26bo25bo3bo2bo$56b2o6bo25bo4bo$83bobo4b3o2bo$75b3o4bo$32b
o42bo7bobo$31bob2obo35bobobo$30bo4bobo34bobobo$31bo43bo7bobo$34bo3bo36b
3o4bo$32bo4bo45bobo4b3o2bo$32bo4bo26bo25bo4bo$64bo25bo3bo2bo$91b2o4bo
$64bo$64bo$89b2o$74b2o$49bo$49bo$76b2o4bo$49bo25bo3bo2bo$49bo25bo4bo$
7b2o59bobo4b3o2bo$27bo32b3o4bo$27bo32bo7bobo$o4bo13b2o36bobobo$o2b2ob
o13bo6bo29bobobo$3bo3bob2o9bo6bo32bo7bobo$3bo2bo3bo49b3o4bo$3b2o4b2o57b
obo4b3o2bo$4bo44bo25bo4bo$13bo11bo23bo25bo3bo2bo$13bo11bo50b2o4bo$4bo
44bo$3b2o4b2o38bo$3bo2bo3bo63b2o$3bo3bob2o9bo6bo$o2b2obo13bo6bo$o4bo13b
2o$27bo$27bob2ob2o8b2ob2o$7b2o$37b2o5$31b3o8b3o$31bo12bo6$37b2o3$33b3o
4b3o$33bobo4bobo$28bo18bo$28bo4bo8bo4bo$32bobo6bobo$31bo12bo$32bo2b2o
2b2o2bo$32b4o4b4o3$31b2o10b2o!
A V eater can eat one of the extra moons, and the bird being released can eat the other one.

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x = 68, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ckqy4rz5r/S2-n3eijry5i6a
14bo25b2o10bo12b2o$3o10b3o10b3o10bobo10b2o11b2o$obo10bobo11bo13bo11b2o
10b3o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

Post by Drelectron8 »

Rust Life Search seemed to pump out quite a few p5 oscillators, like this one below.

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
5b2ob2o$3b2o5b2o2$bo3b2ob2o3bo$bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$o2bo2bobo2bo2bo$o2bob2o
b2obo2bo$4bo5bo$o2bob2ob2obo2bo$o2bo2bobo2bo2bo$bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$bo3b2o
b2o3bo2$3b2o5b2o$5b2ob2o!


Splitters could be possible, here is an example of a temporary one:

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x = 3, y = 9, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
obo$3o6$2bo$2bo!
Also, p6!

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
5b2ob2o2$5bobobo$4bo2bo2bo$3bobo3bobo$obob2o3b2obobo$o13bo$2b2o7b2o$o
13bo$obob2o3b2obobo$3bobo3bobo$4bo2bo2bo$5bobobo2$5b2ob2o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

Post by whatislife »

Running shipcolls gave a new 4c/16 linear growth - so luckily we have a synthesis right away

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x = 107, y = 97, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
31$32bo2bo$32b4o15$17bo$18bo$18bo28bo$17bo28bo$46bo$47bo!
Cleaned up by birds for a 7-engine ship (functional, not optimal)

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#C [[ TRACK -1/4 0 ]]
x = 144, y = 179, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
11$65bo2bo2$65bo$64b3o2bo$64bo4bobo$64bo2b2ob2o$65b2o8$70bobo$70b3o8$
123bo$122bobo$126bo$124bo2bo$121b3obo$42b2o13b4o$42b2o13bo2bo51b2o$42b
2o68b2o$43b2o67b2o$41bo71b2o$40bo4bobo63bo$41bob2obo63bo4bobo$42bo68bo
b2obo$112bo13bo$125bobo$82bobo$82b3o2$42b4o$41bo$48bo$45b3o4$114bo$38b
2o73bobo$37bo2bo7$34b2o$33bo2bo2$114bo$113bobo$94bobo$94b3o2$30b2o$29b
o2bo6$102bo$26b2o73bobo$25bo2bo7$22b2o$21bo2bo2$102bo$101bobo3$15b2o7b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o$15bob3o2$15bob3o$14bobo$15bo64b2o10b2o2$88bo$22b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o17bo$88bo$19bo2bo$20b2o58b2o10b2o7$
23bo2bo$24b2o3$31b2o$31bo2bo$32bo$29b2obo$27bo3bo$29b3o36b3o$68bobo4$
26b3o$26bo2b2o2bo$25bo$31bo4$43bo2bo$43b4o11$56b3o$56bobo8$51bo$50bobo
$53b2o$49b2o4bo!
A compact way to cap the p36 V gun

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x = 43, y = 58, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
14$25bo$25bo8bo$33bobo6$24b2o$23bo2bo2$22bobo$17b2o2bo$21bo2bo$22bo5$
29bo$29bo!
p36 B gun

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x = 50, y = 86, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
4$24b2o13$25b2o$24bo2bo17$25b2o$24bo2bo2$33bo$33bo2$30bo2bo$32b2o$29bo
6b3o$29b2o5bo2bo$34bobo2bo$39bo4b2o$35bo3bo$37b2o5$25b3o$25bo3bo$25b2o
$16bo$14b2obo19bo$14bo22bo$15bo$11b2obo$17bo$19b2o$17bo2bo$16bo4bo8b2o
$17bo2bo$18b2o5$19bo$19bo!
Edit: much smaller 4-engine corderization. Remove leftmost bird for a side rake

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/4 ]]
x = 69, y = 38, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
7$31bo$27b2obobo$15bo11bo3bo$15bob2o9bobo14bo$18bo9bobo12b2o$16bobo9bo
bo6bo5bo$16bo21bo4bo$16bo21bo5bo$15b2o20bo6bo$46bo$27bo6bo$27bo5bo10bo
$9bo24bo$8bobo$7bo4b3o10b2o$8bo2b4o10bo$8bo2bo13b2o$9bo$8bo8b2o$9bo7bo
$17b2o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

Post by 635318657 »

whatislife wrote: July 25th, 2024, 3:49 am Running shipcolls gave a new 4c/16 linear growth - so luckily we have a synthesis right away

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x = 107, y = 97, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
31$32bo2bo$32b4o15$17bo$18bo$18bo28bo$17bo28bo$46bo$47bo!
p36 B gun

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x = 50, y = 86, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
4$24b2o13$25b2o$24bo2bo17$25b2o$24bo2bo2$33bo$33bo2$30bo2bo$32b2o$29bo
6b3o$29b2o5bo2bo$34bobo2bo$39bo4b2o$35bo3bo$37b2o5$25b3o$25bo3bo$25b2o
$16bo$14b2obo19bo$14bo22bo$15bo$11b2obo$17bo$19b2o$17bo2bo$16bo4bo8b2o
$17bo2bo$18b2o5$19bo$19bo!
The 4c/16 linear growth was found by apgsearch. Also, the B was renamed to the moon (M).
Drelectron8 wrote: July 25th, 2024, 2:19 am Splitters could be possible, here is an example of a temporary one:

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x = 3, y = 9, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
obo$3o6$2bo$2bo!
These temporary splitting reactions are known. To make an actual conduit/splitter/reflector, we need a transparent domino.

A start at making a conduit:

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x = 6, y = 14, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
2bobo$2b3o6$4bo$2o2bo4$5bo$5bo!

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x = 11, y = 14, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
2bobo$2b3o$10bo$10bo4$4bo$2o2bo4$5bo$5bo!
We still need transparent domino reactions.

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x = 68, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ckqy4rz5r/S2-n3eijry5i6a
14bo25b2o10bo12b2o$3o10b3o10b3o10bobo10b2o11b2o$obo10bobo11bo13bo11b2o
10b3o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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Several catalyst reactions:

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x = 91, y = 35, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
72bo$48bobo21bo$46b2o3b2o16b2o2bo$49bo21b2o$47b2obo23b2o$50bo22bo2$57b
o$57bo11b3o$49b2o4bo2bo10bobo$56bo$56bo2$56bo$56bo$6bo5bo$6bo5bo43bo$
6b3ob3o9bo5bo27bo$9bo12bo5bo40bobo$22b3ob3o13bobo11bo12b3o$2bo22bo16b
3o11bo$2bo51bo2bo$3bo51bo$2obo51bo$4b2o63bobo$2bo21bo30bo13b3o$2bo22b
2o15bobo10bo$22b2o14bo3b3o8bo2bo33bo$24bo13bo15bo17bo13bo3bo$36bo2bo
14bo12b2ob2o14bo$8bo28bobobo31b2ob2ob2ob2obo2bo$8bo28bo2bo13bo17bo13b
2o$7bo2bo27bo3b2ob2ob2ob2obo29bo4b2o$9bo28bob2o42bo3bo$9bo!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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Do you mean the 4c/16 growth is on catagolue? I put it there. There were no soups with it when I uploaded the first results from shipcolls. https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/yl8 ... i4cs12cek It also doesn't appear in the thread. Could you link to an earlier mention of it?

p24 c/2 V siderake

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x = 45, y = 62, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
18$23bo7bo$12b3o7bobob3obobo7b3o$12bobo11bobo11bobo$16b4o5bobobo5b4o$
14bo4bo15bo4bo$17b2o17b2o$14bobo7b2o3b2o7bobo$14b2o8b2o3b2o8b2o3$18b3o
13b3o$18bobo4b2ob2o4bobo$19bo15bo10$12b3o$12bobo3$43b2o$44bo$43b2o!
edit: slowly growing moon backrake based on a wick - weird!

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x = 58, y = 98, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
30$28bo8bo$27bobo6bobo2$31b4o2$28bo8bo3$29b3o2b3o2$31bo2bo$27b2o3b2o3b
2o$27bo2bo4bo2bo2$31bo2bo$30b2o2b2o3$32b2o2$32b2o$31bo2bo!
p16 V gun

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x = 26, y = 45, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
7$13b2ob2o24$20bobo$13b3o7bo$13bobo4bobo$20bo$20b2o$7b2o$8bo$6bobo$5bo
$6bobo4b2ob2o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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whatislife wrote: July 25th, 2024, 3:49 pm Do you mean the 4c/16 growth is on catagolue? I put it there. There were no soups with it when I uploaded the first results from shipcolls. https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/yl8 ... i4cs12cek It also doesn't appear in the thread. Could you link to an earlier mention of it?
It is in a dimer form in https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/yl1 ... 3i4cs12cek.

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x = 68, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ckqy4rz5r/S2-n3eijry5i6a
14bo25b2o10bo12b2o$3o10b3o10b3o10bobo10b2o11b2o$obo10bobo11bo13bo11b2o
10b3o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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Repeat Time 55 V pair reflector.

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x = 42, y = 14, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
o26b2o10bo$bo26bo10bo$o26b2o9bo2bo$40bo$40bo$2bo26b2o$3bo26bo$2bo26b2o
3bo$34bo2$24bo$22b2o$25b2o$24bo!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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From Catagolue I found that a huge V may be added to another so they interact with each other while keeping the same speed and period:

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x = 34, y = 10, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
15b3o11bo$13bo5bo5bo2bobo2bo$13bobobobo7b2ob2o4$3bo12bo12bo$3ob3o6b3o
b3o6b3ob3o$o5bo6bo5bo6bo5bo$o5bo6bo5bo6bo5bo!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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silversmith wrote: July 25th, 2024, 6:02 pm Repeat Time 55 V pair reflector.

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x = 42, y = 14, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
o26b2o10bo$bo26bo10bo$o26b2o9bo2bo$40bo$40bo$2bo26b2o$3bo26bo$2bo26b2o
3bo$34bo2$24bo$22b2o$25b2o$24bo!
Unfortunately that V pair doesn't appear very often. I use V pair to refer to the following:

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x = 7, y = 2, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
bo3bo$obobobo!
Here's a gun for the huge V with no attempts at optimizing the bounding box:

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x = 352, y = 250, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
108b2o10b2o131b2o10b2o2$109bobo6bobo133bobo6bobo3$107bo2b3o4b3o2bo129b
o2b3o4b3o2bo$107bo4bo4bo4bo129bo4bo4bo4bo$105bo2bo3bo4bo3bo2bo125bo2b
o3bo4bo3bo2bo$105bo4b2o6b2o4bo125bo4b2o6b2o4bo3$110bobo4bobo135bobo4b
obo$111bo6bo137bo6bo$114b2o143b2o8$108bobo8bobo131bobo8bobo$109bo10bo
133bo10bo3$114b2o143b2o$144b2o83b2o$106b2ob2o8b2ob2obo123bob2ob2o8b2o
b2o$125bo20b2o79b2o20bo$131bo13bo6bo69bo6bo13bo$125bo4bo19bobo69bobo19b
o4bo$125bo5bo9bo2bo2bo79bo2bo2bo9bo5bo$116bo23bo3bo2bo2bo73bo2bo2bo3b
o23bo$115bobo23bo3b3o79b3o3bo23bobo$114bo3bo137bo3bo$115bobo9bo11bo95b
o11bo9bobo$116bo10bo11bo95bo11bo10bo2$141bo3b3o79b3o3bo$140bo3bo2bo2b
o73bo2bo2bo3bo$125bo5bo9bo2bo2bo79bo2bo2bo9bo5bo$125bo4bo19bobo69bobo
19bo4bo$131bo13bo6bo69bo6bo13bo$125bo20b2o79b2o20bo$125bo123bo$144b2o
83b2o17$99b2o10b2o149b2o10b2o2$100b3o6b3o151b3o6b3o$100bo10bo151bo10b
o$99b2o10b2o149b2o10b2o$99bo2bo6bo2bo149bo2bo6bo2bo$99bo3bo4bo3bo149b
o3bo4bo3bo$96bo2b2obo6bob2o2bo143bo2b2obo6bob2o2bo$96bo4bo8bo4bo143bo
4bo8bo4bo5$101bo3b2o3bo153bo3b2o3bo$100b3o6b3o151b3o6b3o$100bo10bo151b
o10bo$99bobo8bobo149bobo8bobo$100bo10bo151bo10bo3$100b2o8b2o151b2o8b2o
5$105b2o161b2o2$97b2ob2o8b2ob2o145b2ob2o8b2ob2o$77b2o217b2o$97bo179bo
$52b2o10b2o31bo179bo31b2o10b2o$70bo3b4o8bo39bo121bo39bo8b4o3bo$53b3o6b
3o5bob3o2bo6b2obo2bo6bo29bo119bo29bo6bo2bob2o6bo2b3obo5b3o6b3o$53bo10b
o7bo5bo4b2obo3bo6bo28bo121bo28bo6bo3bob2o4bo5bo7bo10bo$52b2o10b2o6bo2b
obo6bo205bo6bobo2bo6b2o10b2o$52bo2bo6bo2bo10bo221bo10bo2bo6bo2bo$52bo
3bo4bo3bo243bo3bo4bo3bo$49bo2b2obo6bob2o2bo14bo11bo183bo11bo14bo2b2ob
o6bob2o2bo$49bo4bo8bo4bo14bo11bo183bo11bo14bo4bo8bo4bo2$54bobo4bobo12b
o221bo12bobo4bobo$54b3o4b3o8bo2bobo6bo205bo6bobo2bo8b3o4b3o$72bo5bo4b
2obo3bo6bo179bo6bo3bob2o4bo5bo$70bob3o2bo6b2obo2bo6bo179bo6bo2bob2o6b
o2b3obo$58b2o10bo3b4o8bo201bo8b4o3bo10b2o$56b2o2b2o35bo179bo35b2o2b2o
$56bob2obo35bo21bobo131bobo21bo35bob2obo$77b2o40b3o131b3o40b2o$57bo2b
o253bo2bo$57b4o253b4o8$50b2ob2o8b2ob2o239b2ob2o8b2ob2o$30b2o311b2o$50b
o273bo$50bo273bo$23bo3b4o88bo135bo88b4o3bo$23bob3o2bo19bo69bo133bo69b
o19bo2b3obo$25bo5bob2o15bo6bo61bo135bo61bo6bo15b2obo5bo$25bo2bobo3bo20b
o3bo255bo3bo20bo3bobo2bo$29bo3b2o3b2o295b2o3b2o3bo$38bo2b2o11bo5bo253b
o5bo11b2o2bo$37bobo2bo132bo23bo132bo2bobo$37bobo2bo12bo3bo113b2o25b2o
113bo3bo12bo2bobo$38bo2b2o14bo118b2o19b2o118bo14b2o2bo$29bo3b2o3b2o135b
o23bo135b2o3b2o3bo$25bo2bobo3bo305bo3bobo2bo$25bo5bob2o15bo68b4o129b4o
68bo15b2obo5bo$23bob3o2bo19bo68bo2bo129bo2bo68bo19bo2b3obo$23bo3b4o313b
4o3bo$50bo273bo$50bo273bo$30b2o311b2o$324bo$324bo20b2o$326bo17bo6bo$324b
o24bobo$7b2o315bobo16bo2bo$27bo315bo2bo2bo$27bo312bo3b3o$o334b3ob2o$o
3b3o20bo298bo8bobobo$3bo2bo2bo3bo13bo298bo8bobobo$3bo2bo3bo324b3ob2o$
9bo2bo327bo3b3o$4bo9bo25b2o46b2o94b2o157bo2bo2bo$5b2o5bobo26bo47bo95b
o4b2o94b2o36bobo16bo2bo$5b2o5bobo26bo47bo95bo4bo95bo37bo24bobo$4bo9bo
25b2o46b2o94b2o4b2o94b2o38bo17bo6bo$9bo2bo311bo20b2o$3bo2bo3bo313bo$3b
o2bo2bo3bo13bo49b2o264b2o$o3b3o20bo30bo248b2ob2o8b2ob2o$o51b3o3bo$27b
o24bobo30bo223bobo3b2o3bobo$27bo30bo20b3o3bo$7b2o49bo13bo3bo2bo2bo$75b
o3bo2bo17b2o10b2o147b2o10b2o$73bo2bo$71bo9bo19bobo6bobo149bobo6bobo$71b
obo5b2o$71bobo5b2o$71bo9bo17bo2b3o4b3o2bo145bo2b3o4b3o2bo$73bo2bo22bo
4bo4bo4bo145bo4bo4bo4bo38b4o$75bo3bo2bo14bo2bo3bo4bo3bo2bo141bo2bo3bo
4bo3bo2bo36bo2bo$58bo13bo3bo2bo2bo14bo4b2o6b2o4bo141bo4b2o6b2o4bo36b4o
$58bo20b3o3bo$85bo228b4o$58bo43bobo4bobo151bobo4bobo40b2o2b2o$39b2ob2o
8b2ob2obo44bo6bo153bo6bo$77b2o$106b2o159b2o37bo4b2o6b2o4bo$104bo4bo155b
o4bo35bo2bo3bo4bo3bo2bo$106b2o159b2o39bo4bo4bo4bo$104bo4bo155bo4bo37b
o2b3o4b3o2bo2$105bo2bo157bo2bo$106b2o159b2o41bobo6bobo2$309b2o10b2o2$
184b3ob3o$46b4o56b2o76bobobobo76b2o$43bo8bo$45bob2obo47b2ob2o8b2ob2o101b
2o40b2ob2o8b2ob2o$78b2o118bo96b2o$44bo6bo46bo99bo20b2o55bo$43bobo4bob
o23b2o20bo105bo13bo6bo50bo20b2o$38bo18bo13bo6bo82b2o35bo4bo19bobo70bo
6bo$38bo18bo13bobo24bo82bo16bo5bo9bo2bo2bo55bo24bobo$42b3o2b2o2b3o22b
o2bo2bo15bo60b3o19bo31bo3bo2bo2bo52bo15bo2bo2bo$42bo4b2o4bo19bo2bo2bo
3bo70bo6bo13b2o37bo3b3o70bo3bo2bo2bo$42bo3bo2bo3bo22b3o3bo3bobo65bo6b
2o13bo4bo104bobo3bo3b3o$43b2o6b2o37bo68bo2bo2b2o8b2o4bo18bo11bo71bo$85b
obo3bo4bo61bo3bo3bo33bo11bo65bo4bo3bobo$85bobo3bo4bo62bob2o2b2o111bo4b
o3bobo$41b2o10b2o35bo69bo53bo3b3o63bo$76b3o3bo3bobo78bo11bo33bo3bo2bo
2bo62bobo3bo3b3o$73bo2bo2bo3bo83bo11bo18bo5bo9bo2bo2bo70bo3bo2bo2bo$76b
o2bo2bo15bo61bo25bobo9bo4bo19bobo50bo15bo2bo2bo$71bobo24bo60bob2o2b2o
19bobo15bo13bo6bo50bo24bobo$71bo6bo79bo3bo3bo31bo20b2o75bo6bo$76b2o20b
o60bo2bo2b2o8b2o4bo16bo77bo20b2o$98bo55bo6b2o13bo4bo35b2o57bo$78b2o74b
o6bo13b2o118b2o$159b3o19bo$181bo$161b2o8$112b2ob2o8b2ob2o115b2ob2o8b2o
b2o2$120b2o131b2o5$120b2o131b2o$119bo2bo129bo2bo2$118bo4bo127bo4bo$120b
2o131b2o$118bo4bo127bo4bo$120b2o131b2o2$117bo6bo125bo6bo$116bobo4bobo
123bobo4bobo3$111bo4b2o6b2o4bo113bo4b2o6b2o4bo$111bo2bo3bo4bo3bo2bo113b
o2bo3bo4bo3bo2bo$113bo4bo4bo4bo117bo4bo4bo4bo$113bo2b3o4b3o2bo117bo2b
3o4b3o2bo3$115bobo6bobo121bobo6bobo2$114b2o10b2o119b2o10b2o!
It uses silversmith's edgy V eater.

There's a 3V synth, but it isn't gunnable.

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x = 23, y = 13, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
10bobo$10b3o9$o21bo$bo19bo$o21bo!

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x = 68, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ckqy4rz5r/S2-n3eijry5i6a
14bo25b2o10bo12b2o$3o10b3o10b3o10bobo10b2o11b2o$obo10bobo11bo13bo11b2o
10b3o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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635318657 wrote: July 25th, 2024, 5:00 pm
whatislife wrote: July 25th, 2024, 3:49 pm Do you mean the 4c/16 growth is on catagolue? I put it there. There were no soups with it when I uploaded the first results from shipcolls. https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/yl8 ... i4cs12cek It also doesn't appear in the thread. Could you link to an earlier mention of it?
It is in a dimer form in https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/yl1 ... 3i4cs12cek.
So not mentioned here, and not in the database in the form shown. New. At worst new enough that it doesn’t need a vague correction. It's annoying to get nothing but a dismissive response when I'm posting something not documented to your thread.

Much smaller c/4 side rakes for V and moon

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x = 89, y = 112, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
17$45bo$43bobo$42bo$43bo16b3o$44bo4b2o6bob2o2bo$30b3o10bo6bo9bo2bo$30b
obo2bo8bobo4bo10bo$30bo2bo14bobo6bo4bo$32bo4bo11bo10b2o$31bo5bo24bo$
31bo4b2o23b2o$31bobo$44b2o3bo$45bo3bo$44b2o2$53bo$54bo$53bo2$61bo$62bo
$61bo2$69bo$70bo$69bo2$77bo$78bo$77bo2$85bo$86bo$85bo10$29bo$26bo2bo$
25bo3bo$26bobo$14b3o9bobo$13bo2b2o16b2o$13bo2bo10bo7bo$14bo20bo$14bo6b
2o11b2o$15b2o5bo10bo8b2o$14bo6b2o20bo$14b2o27bo$29b2o2bo8b2o$30bo2bo
16b2o$29b2o20bo$39bo11bo$37b2o11b2o$37bo20b2o$37bo21bo$38bo20bo$38bo
19b2o$40bo25b2o$67bo$38bo28bo$66b2o$74b2o$75bo$75bo$74b2o$82b2o$83bo$
83bo$82b2o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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whatislife wrote: July 25th, 2024, 8:51 pm
635318657 wrote: July 25th, 2024, 5:00 pm
whatislife wrote: July 25th, 2024, 3:49 pm Do you mean the 4c/16 growth is on catagolue? I put it there. There were no soups with it when I uploaded the first results from shipcolls. https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/yl8 ... i4cs12cek It also doesn't appear in the thread. Could you link to an earlier mention of it?
It is in a dimer form in https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/yl1 ... 3i4cs12cek.
So not mentioned here, and not in the database in the form shown. New. At worst new enough that it doesn’t need a vague correction. It's annoying to get nothing but a dismissive response when I'm posting something not documented to your thread.
I just wanted to point out that it isn't totally new. It is new to this thread and still valuable to keep in the thread.

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x = 68, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ckqy4rz5r/S2-n3eijry5i6a
14bo25b2o10bo12b2o$3o10b3o10b3o10bobo10b2o11b2o$obo10bobo11bo13bo11b2o
10b3o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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silversmith wrote: July 25th, 2024, 2:48 pm Several catalyst reactions:
The "reflector" at the rightmost can been made into a V loop:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
9bo$2bob2ob2o$2bo7b2ob2o$6b2obo$2bo3bo7bo$2bo3b2o6bo$o2bo6b3o$bo8bobo
bo$bobobo8bo$3b3o6bo2bo$bo6b2o3bo$bo7bo3bo$6bob2o$b2ob2o7bo$7b2ob2obo
$6bo!
This means that the rule is 1 period (p3) from omniperiodic. (EDIT: Omniperiodic!)

Something strange about this on/off:

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x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
2ob2o2$bobo$2bo$2ob2o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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635318657 wrote: July 26th, 2024, 1:12 am [...]
OK, I see where the miscommunication happened. I was reacting as if you had said nothing but "known", it makes sense it was in silversmith's hauls (it's not particularly rare).

xp3 :)

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x = 42, y = 35, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
13$16bo$16bo$13bobo2bo$13bo2bobo$15bo$13bob2obo$13bo4bo!
This is a small one from rlifesrc, but there are seminatural examples in many symmetries (including D4_+2 which was searched early on by silversmith)

Not a big leap in tech, but you can use a 2V collision to get fore and back V-rakes, plus a way to convert into back moons

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x = 157, y = 145, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
7$25bo$22bo2bo80bo$21bo3bo15bo22bo41bo2bo$22bobo16bobo18bobo25bo15bo3b
o$10b3o9bobo19bo16bo26bobo16bobo$9bo2b2o16b2o11bo18bo24bo19bobo9b3o$9b
o2bo10bo7bo10bo20bo24bo11b2o16b2o2bo$10bo20bo10bo20bo25bo10bo7bo10bo2b
o$10bo6b2o11b2o3b2o4bo22bo24bo10bo20bo$11b2o5bo10bo5bo54bo4b2o3b2o11b
2o6bo$10bo6b2o16b2o59bo5bo10bo5b2o$10b2o83b2o16b2o6bo$25b2o2bo90b2o$
26bo2bo72bo2b2o$25b2o75bo2bo$64b3o38b2o$34bo29bobo$35bo61bo$34bo61bo$
97bo$42bo$43bo45bo$42bo45bo$64b3o22bo$50bo13bobo$51bo29bo$50bo29bo$81b
o$58bo$59bo13bo$58bo13bo$48b3o13b3o6bo$47bo2b2obo10bobo$47bo2bo$48bo$
48bo4bo11bobo$49b2o14b3o$48bo8bo$48b2o6bo$57bo20$65bobo50bo$65b3o48bob
o$115bo$116bo$117bo4b2o$116bo6bo7b3o$117bobo4bo6bobo2bo$109b2o10bobo7b
o2bo2bo$109bo12bo10bo$109bo22bo$109b2o3bo7b2o8bo$101b2o11bo7bo9bobo$
101bo20b2o$101bo$101b2o11bo$93b2o18bo$93bo14bo5bo$93bo13bobo$93b2o11bo
4b3o$85b2o20bo2b4o$85bo21bo2bo$85bo22bo$85b2o20bo$77b2o29bo$65bobo9bo$
65b3o9bo$77b2o$69b2o$69bo$69bo$69b2o8$67b2o$68bo$64bo3bo$66b2o23$65bo
2bo$66b2o!
Some gun period multiplication: p144, p180

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x = 212, y = 329, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
47$149b2ob2o14$130bo$131bo6bo$115b2o13bo7bo$114bo2bo32bo$112bo24b2o10b
obo$111bo2bobo$103b2o6bo$112bo3$122b2o4$60bo$60bo2$111bo$111bo3$150bo$
58b4o9b2o76bobo$58bo2bo$57bobo$56b2o$52b2o2bo$56bobo$56b3o19bo$78bo$
66bo$67bo$66bo$68b3o$68bobo5$78bo71bo$76bo2bo5b2o62bobo$76bo2bo$72bobo
3bo80bo$71bo87bo$72bo$73b2o2$74bo83b4o$48bo16bo2bo5bo81b2o$48bo16b4o
87bob3o2bo$156bo$156b2o2bo2bo$40bobo$40bo$39b2o125b2o2$36b2o2bo$44bo2$
41bob4o$40bo5bo8b2o$41bob2obo108bo$30bo10b2o2b2o108bo$30bo12b2o2$27bo
2bo$29b2o18b2o$26bo6b3o14bo$26b2o5bo2bo13bo$31bobo2bo12b2o$36bo$32bo3b
o$34b2o2$22b2o7$34bo$34bo4$136bobo$136b3o$47bobo$48bo71$47bobo$48bo15$
136bobo$136b3o11$136b2ob2o9$45b2ob2o!
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Re: Statorless (B2ek3i4c/S12cek)

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Sawtooth 91:

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x = 60, y = 56, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
35bo$35bo4$8bo$8bo2$46b2o3$36bo$27b2o6bo$19b2o14bo2bobo$36bo$38bo2bo13b
o$9bo29b2o13bobo$2o6bo43b2o$8bo2bobo37bo4b2o$9bo$11bo2bo$12b2o13bo17b
o$28bo17bo$27bo17bo2$50bo$36bo13bo$37bo$21b2o13bo$20bo2bo$18bo$17bo2b
obo30bo4b2o$9b2o6bo36b2o$18bo37bobo$57bo$38bo$28b2o8bo5$45bo$43bo2bo$
17bo28bo$17bo25bobo2$41bo2bo$30b2o10b2o7$42bo$42bo!
It has expansion factor 19. It attains its minimum population of 91 at tick 156 * 19^n - 156 and 156 * 19^n - 84 for all nonnegative n.

Is there a sawtooth with a lower minimum population?

Here's a caber tosser which could help with such a sawtooth:

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x = 9, y = 20, rule = B2ek3i4c/S12cek
4bo$3bobo$6b2o$2b2o4bo5$o$bo$o6$2bo4b2o$3b2o$5bobo$6bo!

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x = 68, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ckqy4rz5r/S2-n3eijry5i6a
14bo25b2o10bo12b2o$3o10b3o10b3o10bobo10b2o11b2o$obo10bobo11bo13bo11b2o
10b3o!
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