Expand the Strict Still Life (bad name ik)

rutabaga · Post by **rutabaga** » June 5th, 2024, 2:06 pm

Sorry, I know that name isn't too catchy.

Anyway, the gist of the game is to take a starting still life and add to it while remaining a strict still life. For example:

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x = 30, y = 13, rule = pridelife
2.2A6.2A7.2A7.2A$.A.A5.A.A6.A.A6.A.A$.A7.A8.A8.A$2A5.E2A6.3A6.3A$6.E8.
A8.A$6.2E7.2A4E3.6A$20.E8.A$15.3E6.3A$14.E2.E5.A2.A$14.2E7.2A2.2E$29.
E$23.6E$23.E2.E!

It's basically just expand the pattern, but it needs to remain a strict still life. I'm interested to see what everyone comes up with!

Here's the starting pattern (pattern A1) but people can come up with different starting patterns (B1, C1, etc.) The next pattern after this would be A2.

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = pridelife
2B.2A$.B.A$.B.A$2B.2A!

As BokaBB would say... Have a good day!

EDIT: You cannot increase the population by more than 2.5 times the square root of the current population. For example, if the population is 58 (which it was when I made this edit), you can increase it by up to 19, which means the new population could be 77 if you wanted, but it could also be, say, 63. I know my example in this post violates this rule, but I think everyone still gets the point.

squareroot12621 · Post by **squareroot12621** » June 5th, 2024, 8:21 pm

A2:

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x = 7, y = 6, rule = pridelife
2C$C$.C2B.2A$3.B.A$3.B.A$2.2B.2A!

Possible rule: If the current population is p, the new population can't be greater than p + 1.5√p̅. (So 16 → 17 to 22, 27 → 28 to 34, and 44 → 45 to 53.)

rattlesnake · Post by **rattlesnake** » June 6th, 2024, 12:26 am

A3:

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = pridelife
2C$C$.C2B.2A$3.B.A.D$3.B.A.D$2.2B.2A!

unname4798 · Post by **unname4798** » June 6th, 2024, 1:35 am

rattlesnake wrote: June 6th, 2024, 12:26 am A3:
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x = 8, y = 6, rule = pridelife
2C$C$.C2B.2A$3.B.A.D$3.B.A.D$2.2B.2A!

A4:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = pridelife
2C$C$.C2B.2A$3.B.A.D$3.B.A.D$.E2B.2A$E$2E!

rutabaga · Post by **rutabaga** » June 6th, 2024, 9:38 am

A5

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x = 11, y = 8, rule = pridelife
3.2C$3.C$4.C2B.2A$6.B.A.D$2F4.B.A.D$.F2.E2B.2A$.F.E$2F.2E!

Time to break the symmetry :l

unname4798 · Post by **unname4798** » June 6th, 2024, 9:49 am

rutabaga wrote: June 6th, 2024, 9:38 am A5
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x = 11, y = 8, rule = pridelife
3.2C$3.C$4.C2B.2A$6.B.A.D$2F4.B.A.D$.F2.E2B.2A$.F.E$2F.2E!
Time to break the symmetry :l

A6:

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x = 12, y = 8, rule = pridelife
4.2C$4.C$5.C2B.2A$7.B.A.D$.2F4.B.A.D$G.F2.E2B.2A$G.F.E$.2F.2E!

rutabaga · Post by **rutabaga** » June 6th, 2024, 10:01 am

A7:

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = pridelife
4.2C$4.C$5.C2B.2A$7.B.A.D$.2F4.B.A.D$G.F2.E2B.2A$G.F.E$.2F.2E2$.5H$H3.
H2.H$2H4.2H!

I do like the idea of a population limit rule, but I think that p + 1.5√p̅ is too restrictive. How about p + 2.5√p̅ ?

unname4798 · Post by **unname4798** » June 6th, 2024, 11:02 am

rutabaga wrote: June 6th, 2024, 10:01 am A7:
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x = 12, y = 12, rule = pridelife
4.2C$4.C$5.C2B.2A$7.B.A.D$.2F4.B.A.D$G.F2.E2B.2A$G.F.E$.2F.2E2$.5H$H3.
H2.H$2H4.2H!
I do like the idea of a population limit rule, but I think that p + 1.5√p̅ is too restrictive. How about p + 2.5√p̅ ?

Or 2p?

tommyaweosme · Post by **tommyaweosme** » June 6th, 2024, 11:33 am

thanks for using my rule! :D

unname4798 · Post by **unname4798** » June 6th, 2024, 12:01 pm

rutabaga wrote: June 6th, 2024, 10:01 am A7:
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x = 12, y = 12, rule = pridelife
4.2C$4.C$5.C2B.2A$7.B.A.D$.2F4.B.A.D$G.F2.E2B.2A$G.F.E$.2F.2E2$.5H$H3.
H2.H$2H4.2H!
I do like the idea of a population limit rule, but I think that p + 1.5√p̅ is too restrictive. How about p + 2.5√p̅ ?

Switching to LifeRGB222:

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = LifeRGB222
4.2C$4.C$5.C2B.2A$7.B.A.D$.2F4.B.A.D$G.F2.E2B.2A$G.F.E$.2F.2E2$.5H$H3.
H2.H$2H4.2H!
@RULE LifeRGB222
@TABLE
n_states:64
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63}
var b=a
var c=a
var d=a
var e=a
var f=a
var g=a
var h=a
var i=a
var a2={0,a}
var b2=a2
var c2=a2
var d2=a2
var e2=a2
var f2=a2
var g2=a2
var h2=a2
0,a,a,a,0,0,0,0,0,a
a,a2,b,c,0,0,0,0,0,a
a,a2,b2,c2,d2,e2,f2,g2,h2,0
@COLORS
0 0 0 0
1 0 0 64
2 0 0 128
3 0 0 192
4 0 64 0
5 0 64 64
6 0 64 128
7 0 64 192
8 0 128 0
9 0 128 64
10 0 128 128
11 0 128 192
12 0 192 0
13 0 192 64
14 0 192 128
15 0 192 192
16 64 0 0
17 64 0 64
18 64 0 128
19 64 0 192
20 64 64 0
21 64 64 64
22 64 64 128
23 64 64 192
24 64 128 0
25 64 128 64
26 64 128 128
27 64 128 192
28 64 192 0
29 64 192 64
30 64 192 128
31 64 192 192
32 128 0 0
33 128 0 64
34 128 0 128
35 128 0 192
36 128 64 0
37 128 64 64
38 128 64 128
39 128 64 192
40 128 128 0
41 128 128 64
42 128 128 128
43 128 128 192
44 128 192 0
45 128 192 64
46 128 192 128
47 128 192 192
48 192 0 0
49 192 0 64
50 192 0 128
51 192 0 192
52 192 64 0
53 192 64 64
54 192 64 128
55 192 64 192
56 192 128 0
57 192 128 64
58 192 128 128
59 192 128 192
60 192 192 0
61 192 192 64
62 192 192 128
63 192 192 192

tommyaweosme · Post by **tommyaweosme** » June 6th, 2024, 12:55 pm

nooo :(

unname4798 · Post by **unname4798** » June 6th, 2024, 1:25 pm

tommyaweosme wrote: June 6th, 2024, 12:55 pm nooo :(

LifeRGB222 allows for longer times before at least one component's color overflows back to black.

rutabaga · Post by **rutabaga** » June 7th, 2024, 8:18 am

unname4798 wrote: June 6th, 2024, 1:25 pm
tommyaweosme wrote: June 6th, 2024, 12:55 pm nooo :(
LifeRGB222 allows for longer times before at least one component's color overflows back to black.

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = LifeRGB222
5.pK$5.2C$5.C3.pK$6.C2B.2A$4.2pK2.B.A.D$2.2F4.B.A.DpK$.G.F2.E2B.2A$pK
G.F.E3.pK$2.2F.2E2$2.5H$.H3.H2.HpK$.2H4.2H$2.pK!

@RULE LifeRGB222
@TABLE
n_states:64
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63}
var b=a
var c=a
var d=a
var e=a
var f=a
var g=a
var h=a
var i=a
var a2={0,a}
var b2=a2
var c2=a2
var d2=a2
var e2=a2
var f2=a2
var g2=a2
var h2=a2
0,a,a,a,0,0,0,0,0,a
a,a2,b,c,0,0,0,0,0,a
a,a2,b2,c2,d2,e2,f2,g2,h2,0
@COLORS
0 0 0 0
1 0 0 64
2 0 0 128
3 0 0 192
4 0 64 0
5 0 64 64
6 0 64 128
7 0 64 192
8 0 128 0
9 0 128 64
10 0 128 128
11 0 128 192
12 0 192 0
13 0 192 64
14 0 192 128
15 0 192 192
16 64 0 0
17 64 0 64
18 64 0 128
19 64 0 192
20 64 64 0
21 64 64 64
22 64 64 128
23 64 64 192
24 64 128 0
25 64 128 64
26 64 128 128
27 64 128 192
28 64 192 0
29 64 192 64
30 64 192 128
31 64 192 192
32 128 0 0
33 128 0 64
34 128 0 128
35 128 0 192
36 128 64 0
37 128 64 64
38 128 64 128
39 128 64 192
40 128 128 0
41 128 128 64
42 128 128 128
43 128 128 192
44 128 192 0
45 128 192 64
46 128 192 128
47 128 192 192
48 192 0 0
49 192 0 64
50 192 0 128
51 192 0 192
52 192 64 0
53 192 64 64
54 192 64 128
55 192 64 192
56 192 128 0
57 192 128 64
58 192 128 128
59 192 128 192
60 192 192 0
61 192 192 64
62 192 192 128
63 192 192 192

The problem is that LifeRGB222 doesn't have seamless interaction between different states. All of these weird purple dots still live, and it works for any color because the birth conditions are messed up.

Edit: I also had to copy paste the whole ruletable in, which if people forget to do that, could be annoying.

Edit 2: Here is the real A8:

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x = 14, y = 18, rule = pridelife
2A$A.A$.A.A$2.2A$4.2C$4.C$5.C2B.2A$7.B.A.D$.2F4.B.A.D$G.F2.E2B.2A$G.F
.E$.2F.2E2$.5H$H3.H2.HA$2H4.2H2.2A$9.2A2.A$12.2A!

unname4798 · Post by **unname4798** » June 7th, 2024, 8:28 am

rutabaga wrote: June 7th, 2024, 8:18 am

unname4798 wrote: June 6th, 2024, 1:25 pm
tommyaweosme wrote: June 6th, 2024, 12:55 pm nooo :(
LifeRGB222 allows for longer times before at least one component's color overflows back to black.

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = LifeRGB222
5.pK$5.2C$5.C3.pK$6.C2B.2A$4.2pK2.B.A.D$2.2F4.B.A.DpK$.G.F2.E2B.2A$pK
G.F.E3.pK$2.2F.2E2$2.5H$.H3.H2.HpK$.2H4.2H$2.pK!

@RULE LifeRGB222
@TABLE
n_states:64
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63}
var b=a
var c=a
var d=a
var e=a
var f=a
var g=a
var h=a
var i=a
var a2={0,a}
var b2=a2
var c2=a2
var d2=a2
var e2=a2
var f2=a2
var g2=a2
var h2=a2
0,a,a,a,0,0,0,0,0,a
a,a2,b,c,0,0,0,0,0,a
a,a2,b2,c2,d2,e2,f2,g2,h2,0
@COLORS
0 0 0 0
1 0 0 64
2 0 0 128
3 0 0 192
4 0 64 0
5 0 64 64
6 0 64 128
7 0 64 192
8 0 128 0
9 0 128 64
10 0 128 128
11 0 128 192
12 0 192 0
13 0 192 64
14 0 192 128
15 0 192 192
16 64 0 0
17 64 0 64
18 64 0 128
19 64 0 192
20 64 64 0
21 64 64 64
22 64 64 128
23 64 64 192
24 64 128 0
25 64 128 64
26 64 128 128
27 64 128 192
28 64 192 0
29 64 192 64
30 64 192 128
31 64 192 192
32 128 0 0
33 128 0 64
34 128 0 128
35 128 0 192
36 128 64 0
37 128 64 64
38 128 64 128
39 128 64 192
40 128 128 0
41 128 128 64
42 128 128 128
43 128 128 192
44 128 192 0
45 128 192 64
46 128 192 128
47 128 192 192
48 192 0 0
49 192 0 64
50 192 0 128
51 192 0 192
52 192 64 0
53 192 64 64
54 192 64 128
55 192 64 192
56 192 128 0
57 192 128 64
58 192 128 128
59 192 128 192
60 192 192 0
61 192 192 64
62 192 192 128
63 192 192 192

The problem is that LifeRGB222 doesn't have seamless interaction between different states. All of these weird purple dots still live, and it works for any color because the birth conditions are messed up.

Edit: I also had to copy paste the whole ruletable in, which if people forget to do that, could be annoying.

Edit 2: Here is the real A8:

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x = 14, y = 18, rule = pridelife
2A$A.A$.A.A$2.2A$4.2C$4.C$5.C2B.2A$7.B.A.D$.2F4.B.A.D$G.F2.E2B.2A$G.F
.E$.2F.2E2$.5H$H3.H2.HA$2H4.2H2.2A$9.2A2.A$12.2A!

Fixed:

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = LifeRGB222
2I$I.I$.I.I$2.2I$4.2C$4.C$5.C2B.2A$7.B.A.D$.2F4.B.A.D$G.F2.E2B.2A$G.F
.E$.2F.2E2$.5H$H3.H2.HI$2H4.2H2.2I$9.2I2.I$12.2I!!
@RULE LifeRGB222
@TABLE
n_states:64
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63}
var b=a
var c=a
var d=a
var e=a
var f=a
var g=a
var h=a
var i=a
var a2={0,a}
var b2=a2
var c2=a2
var d2=a2
var e2=a2
var f2=a2
var g2=a2
var h2=a2
0,a,b,c,0,0,0,0,0,a
a,a2,b,c,0,0,0,0,0,a
a,a2,b2,c2,d2,e2,f2,g2,h2,0
@COLORS
0 0 0 0
1 0 0 64
2 0 0 128
3 0 0 192
4 0 64 0
5 0 64 64
6 0 64 128
7 0 64 192
8 0 128 0
9 0 128 64
10 0 128 128
11 0 128 192
12 0 192 0
13 0 192 64
14 0 192 128
15 0 192 192
16 64 0 0
17 64 0 64
18 64 0 128
19 64 0 192
20 64 64 0
21 64 64 64
22 64 64 128
23 64 64 192
24 64 128 0
25 64 128 64
26 64 128 128
27 64 128 192
28 64 192 0
29 64 192 64
30 64 192 128
31 64 192 192
32 128 0 0
33 128 0 64
34 128 0 128
35 128 0 192
36 128 64 0
37 128 64 64
38 128 64 128
39 128 64 192
40 128 128 0
41 128 128 64
42 128 128 128
43 128 128 192
44 128 192 0
45 128 192 64
46 128 192 128
47 128 192 192
48 192 0 0
49 192 0 64
50 192 0 128
51 192 0 192
52 192 64 0
53 192 64 64
54 192 64 128
55 192 64 192
56 192 128 0
57 192 128 64
58 192 128 128
59 192 128 192
60 192 192 0
61 192 192 64
62 192 192 128
63 192 192 192

tommyaweosme · Post by **tommyaweosme** » June 7th, 2024, 10:00 am

:

:0 what if i make pride life but with plenty more states

tommyaweosme · Post by **tommyaweosme** » June 7th, 2024, 10:12 am

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = diversitylife
2I$I.I$.I.I$2.2I$4.2C$4.C$5.C2B.2A$7.B.A.D$.2F4.B.A.D$G.F2.E2B.2A$G.F
.E$.2F.2E2$.5H$H3.H2.HI$2H4.2H2.2I$9.2I2.I$12.2I!!

unname4798 · Post by **unname4798** » June 7th, 2024, 10:14 am

tommyaweosme wrote: June 7th, 2024, 10:00 am :

:0 what if i make pride life but with plenty more states

tommyaweosme wrote: June 7th, 2024, 10:12 am

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = diversitylife
2I$I.I$.I.I$2.2I$4.2C$4.C$5.C2B.2A$7.B.A.D$.2F4.B.A.D$G.F2.E2B.2A$G.F
.E$.2F.2E2$.5H$H3.H2.HI$2H4.2H2.2I$9.2I2.I$12.2I!!

You are doubleposting.

tommyaweosme · Post by **tommyaweosme** » June 7th, 2024, 10:15 am

its not like no one can do that once in a while in the sandbox

unname4798 · Post by **unname4798** » June 7th, 2024, 12:26 pm

More states:

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = Life256
2I$I.I$.I.I$2.2I$4.2C$4.C$5.C2B.2A$7.B.A.D$.2F4.B.A.D$G.F2.E2B.2A$G.F
.E$.2F.2E2$.5H$H3.H2.HI$2H4.2H2.2I$9.2I2.I$12.2I!

tommyaweosme · Post by **tommyaweosme** » June 7th, 2024, 1:59 pm

that rule takes the lowest state number out of all of them for birth, meanwhile both pride and diversitylife only do that for when all 3 are different!

rutabaga · Post by **rutabaga** » June 10th, 2024, 6:10 pm

tommyaweosme wrote: June 7th, 2024, 1:59 pm that rule takes the lowest state number out of all of them for birth, meanwhile both pride and diversitylife only do that for when all 3 are different!

birth won't matter. These are still lives. I propose we use life256

tommyaweosme · Post by **tommyaweosme** » June 10th, 2024, 6:48 pm

people will be dissapointed when they open it up on the forums, try to add something, and instead of it actually making sense, its just TAKES THE LOWEST STATE NUMBER, ALWAYS.

also, my color order makes more sense and its not like were gonna get through 83 posts in a short enough period of time that it matters

rutabaga · Post by **rutabaga** » June 11th, 2024, 9:48 am

tommyaweosme wrote: June 10th, 2024, 6:48 pm people will be dissapointed when they open it up on the forums, try to add something, and instead of it actually making sense, its just TAKES THE LOWEST STATE NUMBER, ALWAYS.

also, my color order makes more sense and its not like were gonna get through 83 posts in a short enough period of time that it matters

making more sense is a bad thing.

i want this color scheme to be more random

unname4798 · Post by **unname4798** » June 11th, 2024, 12:03 pm

rutabaga wrote: June 11th, 2024, 9:48 am
tommyaweosme wrote: June 10th, 2024, 6:48 pm people will be dissapointed when they open it up on the forums, try to add something, and instead of it actually making sense, its just TAKES THE LOWEST STATE NUMBER, ALWAYS.

also, my color order makes more sense and its not like were gonna get through 83 posts in a short enough period of time that it matters
making more sense is a bad thing.

i want this color scheme to be more random

Life256 does that.

rutabaga · Post by **rutabaga** » June 11th, 2024, 7:57 pm

unname4798 wrote: June 11th, 2024, 12:03 pm
rutabaga wrote: June 11th, 2024, 9:48 am
tommyaweosme wrote: June 10th, 2024, 6:48 pm people will be dissapointed when they open it up on the forums, try to add something, and instead of it actually making sense, its just TAKES THE LOWEST STATE NUMBER, ALWAYS.

also, my color order makes more sense and its not like were gonna get through 83 posts in a short enough period of time that it matters
making more sense is a bad thing.

i want this color scheme to be more random
Life256 does that.

I know. I was trying to tell him that I preferred life256.

ConwayLife.com

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