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[gameoflifeboy]

A natural pentapole is on Catagolue, under b3s23/C1.

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#C [[ THEME 2 THUMBNAIL ]]
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bobbooobbbbobbbb$
obbbobbobooboooo$
oobbbooobbooobob$
boooboobbbbobooo$
bbooooooobobbbbb$
oobboobobobbbobb$
bobobooobobobbob$
bobboboobbobboob$
bboooobbbbbbbobo$
bbboobbbbboooboo$
obbobobbbbbobooo$
obobobbbbobbobob$
bobbboooobbbboob$
obbobbobboooobbb$
oooooooobboooobb$
bobbooobbbboobbo!

The pentapole is rarer than the long long long long long snake, and is probably the rarest object with 11 cells in Life.

[praosylen]

A p4608 (I think) double switch engine puffer appeared in a D4_x1 soup:

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
ooboooooobboooooobobooobbbbbboo$
obobbbobbobbobobboobooobbooobbo$
boboooooboobbbooboobooobboobbbb$
obobbbbbboobooboboobooboobobbob$
obobbbbobbobbbbbobbbbbbbbbbooob$
obobboboooobbooooboobbbobobboob$
ooobbbobbbbooooobbbbbbobobbobbb$
oboboobobboboobbobbooooobobobbb$
obbbbobboooboobbbbooboooobbbooo$
booobobbooobbboboobobooobbboooo$
bbooooboooobbbooobobobbobbboooo$
obbbbbobbbbbooooooobbooobobbbbb$
oobobbooobboobooboooobobboboooo$
obboboooobbobbbboboobobbbbbooob$
ooobboobboooobboboboooboboobbbo$
obooboobbbooobooobooobbbooboobo$
obbboobobooobobobboooobboobbooo$
booobbbbboboobobbbbobboooobobbo$
oooobobboboooobooboobbooobboboo$
bbbbbobooobbooooooobbbbbobbbbbo$
oooobbbobbobobooobbbooooboooobb$
oooobbboooboboobobbbooobbobooob$
ooobbbooooboobbbboobooobbobbbbo$
bbbobobooooobbobboobobboboobobo$
bbbobbobobbbbbbooooobbbbobbbooo$
boobbobobbbooboooobboooobobbobo$
booobbbbbbbbbbobbbbbobbobbbbobo$
bobboboobooboobobooboobbbbbbobo$
bbbboobbooobooboobbboobooooobob$
obbooobboooboobbobobbobbobbbobo$
oobbbbbboooboboooooobbooooooboo!

[gameoflifeboy]

New 36-bitter in b3s23/C1:

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#C [[ THEME 2 THUMBNAIL STEP 5 ]]
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
booobbboobbbbobb$
bboobobbobbobobb$
ooobobooobbboboo$
obbobooobbbobbbb$
boobbbobboobbobb$
obbboboobobbobob$
bbobbbbbboooboob$
boobbbbobobooobb$
oboobbbobobbobob$
boobbbobbbbbboob$
ooboobobobbboboo$
bboobbboobobbobo$
obobboobobobobbb$
obboooobbboooooo$
ooboboobbbboooob$
bobbboobboobbooo!

[praosylen]

A possibly useful synthesis component, if anyone can figure out how to place the spark:

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x = 13, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2o4b2o$obo2bobo4bo$2b4o6bo$obo2bobo3bo$2o4b2o2b2o$9bo$9bo!

[Extrementhusiast]

A possibly useful synthesis component, if anyone can figure out how to place the spark:

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x = 13, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2o4b2o$obo2bobo4bo$2b4o6bo$obo2bobo3bo$2o4b2o2b2o$9bo$9bo!

Six gliders will do it:

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x = 43, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
12bo$13bo$11b3o$15bo$15bobo$15b2o$2o4b2o24b2o4b2o$obo2bobo24bobo2bobo$
2bo2bo28bo2bobob2o$obo2bobo24bobo2bobobo$2o4b2o24b2o4b2o2bo$41b2o3$12b
2o$11b2o$7b2o4bo$3bo2b2o$3b2o3bo9b2o$2bobo13bobo$18bo!

[gameoflifeboy]

A D8_1 soup produced a quasar:

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#C [[ THUMBNAIL AUTOSTART GPS 25 LOOP 50 ZOOM 8 THEME 7 ]]
x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
bbbbbobbbbbbbbooobbbbbbbbobbbbb$
bbboooboobbbooobooobbboobooobbb$
bbobboboooboobbobboobooobobbobb$
bobobboobbobbbobobbbobboobbobob$
bobbooooobbobobbbobobbooooobbob$
ooobobobbbooboooooboobbbobobooo$
bbbooooboooobobobobooooboooobbb$
boooobbobobooooooooobobobboooob$
booboboboooboboooboboooboboboob$
bbobbboooboboobbboobobooobbbobb$
bbbobooboobbbobbbobbbooboobobbb$
bboboooobbbobbobobbobbboooobobb$
boobbbbooobbbobobobbbooobbbboob$
bobbooooboobooboboobooboooobbob$
ooboboboobbobbbobbbobbooboboboo$
obobboooobbbooooooobbboooobbobo$
ooboboboobbobbbobbbobbooboboboo$
bobbooooboobooboboobooboooobbob$
boobbbbooobbbobobobbbooobbbboob$
bboboooobbbobbobobbobbboooobobb$
bbbobooboobbbobbbobbbooboobobbb$
bbobbboooboboobbboobobooobbbobb$
booboboboooboboooboboooboboboob$
boooobbobobooooooooobobobboooob$
bbbooooboooobobobobooooboooobbb$
ooobobobbbooboooooboobbbobobooo$
bobbooooobbobobbbobobbooooobbob$
bobobboobbobbbobobbbobboobbobob$
bbobboboooboobbobboobooobobbobb$
bbboooboobbbooobooobbboobooobbb$
bbbbbobbbbbbbbooobbbbbbbbobbbbb!

[praosylen]

A predecessor for a 32-cell still life:

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x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5bobo$5bobo$6bo$b3o5b3o$b3o5b3o$o3bo3bo3bo$o3bo3bo3bo$bobo5bobo$2b
o7bo!

It's most common in symmetrical B3/S23, but actually found in B3/S238 C_1.

[biggiemac]

6-glider MWSS on MWSS from a recent soup. I don't know if this is known but last I heard was 7.

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x = 48, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o13bo$15bo$15b3o5$17bo$18bo2b2o$16b3o2bobo$21bo3$14bo$13b2o$
13bobo7$45b3o$45bo$46bo!

[apg]

A single soup produces a natural MWSS, great on-off and pentadecathlon (!):

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2bob2o4b3obo$2bobo2b2ob3o$b2o4b4ob4o$ob5obo2b3obo$3ob3o2bo2b3o$b5o2b3o
bo$bo2b2o3bo$3ob4obo2bobo$bob5ob2o$b5o5b4o$5b6o$ob3o2bo5b3o$o3bo2bo3b
2obo$3bo2b2obob3obo$bo3bo5bo2bo$o3b2ob2ob2o3bo!

[HartmutHolzwart]

6-glider MWSS on MWSS from a recent soup. I don't know if this is known but last I heard was 7.

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x = 48, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o13bo$15bo$15b3o5$17bo$18bo2b2o$16b3o2bobo$21bo3$14bo$13b2o$
13bobo7$45b3o$45bo$46bo!

gen 66 resembles a bit the first 2c/5 spaceship

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x = 22, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2$7b2obo$5b3o2bo$3bo4b3o$3bob2o$2bo3bo7bo4b2o$3b3o7bo$3b3o7b2o$14bo$3b
3o11b3o$3b3o11b3o$2bo3bo11bo$3bob2o9bo$3bo4b3o$5b3o2bo$7b2obo!

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
4b2o2b2o$6b4o$b2o6b2o$b2obob5o$o3b2o$b3o$b3o2$b3o$b3o$o3b2o$b2obob5o$b
2o6b2o$6b4o$4b2o2b2o!

[apg]

What the...?!

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
obo2bob3ob2o2bo$2bo6bobobobo$obo2bobob3obo$2b4obo2b2ob2o$bo4b4obob3o$
3ob3ob2ob2obo$o2b2obo2b3ob2o$3b2obob2o3b3o$7obo2b3o$bob2o4bob5o$4b2obo
2bo2bobo$2obob4o5b2o$3b4obo2b2ob2o$4b2ob3ob2ob2o$2obo2b4ob2o$b2obo2bo
2b2obobo!

EDIT: On reflection, this is the third oscillator in o0005-spark.lif of jslife. Apparently it was found by Noam Elkies on 16th June 1997, and the following excerpt confirms this:

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-851 From: Noam Elkies
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:44:39 -0400
Subject: New 20-cell p5!?


Playing around some more with Dean's version of lifesrc I stumbled
on the following object:

  o
 o  ooo
   o
    o o  o
   oo oooo
     o
     o o
      oo

I figured it must have been known already but I cannot find it
in my Life files.  The leftmost cell can be used as the helper
spark in the various traffic jams of period 5n instead of the
octagon-II, as in the following version of the basic p50 jam:

 oo                                            oo
 o  ooo                                    ooo  o
  oo                              ooo         oo
       o                  o               o
       o   o  ..........oo oo...o     o...o
  oo     oo oo            o     o     o       oo
 o  ooo    o                    o     o    ooo  o
 oo        .                                   oo
           .                      ooo
           .                         ..
          o                            o
       o oo                            oo o
       oo o                            o oo
     oo   oo                          oo   oo
    o  ooo                              ooo  o
    oo o                                  o oo
       o                                  o
       oo                                oo

As far as I know the octagon-stabilized p50 jam and p100
traffic circle have not yet been constructed with gliders
because it is hard to fit the syntheses of the fumarole
(or mold for p100) and octagon-II into such close quarters.
The new(?) p5 should make the synthesis more convenient
because its rotor is smaller, and on the side opposite to
the fumarole; for instance one can get it from an 18-cell
still-life with two simulatneous small sparks:

      @
 @@
    oo
   o  o
    o o  o
   oo oooo
     o
     o o
      oo

EDIT2: Apparently it's called Elkies' p5 and has a 25-glider synthesis:

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x = 158, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
4bo$5bo$3b3o$43bo$b2o41b2o$obo24b3o13b2o2b3o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o$
2bo64bo2bo16bo2bo16bo2bo16bo2bo5bobo8bo2bo$40b3o25bobo17bobo17bobo17bo
bo5b2o10bobo$42bo6b2o16b2ob2o15b2ob2o15b2ob2o15b2ob2o5bo2b3o4b2ob2o$
41bo7bobo88bo8bo2bo$49bo66b2o18b2o3bo7bobo$96bobo5b2o9bo2bo5b2o9bo2bo
11bo$83bobo10b2o5bo2bo8bo2bo4bo2bo3bo4bo2bo$84b2o11bo5bo2bo9b2o5bo2bo
2b2o5b2o$84bo19b2o18b2o3bobo$97b2o38bo$83b2o12bobo36b2o$82bobo12bo29b
3o6bobo$84bo44bo$128bo5$155b2o$154bo2bo$155b2o11$117bobo11bobo$118b2o
7bo3b2o$112bo5bo6b2o5bo$113b2o11b2o$112b2o$106b2o$105bobo$107bo3b3o32b
o$28b2o18b2o18b2o6bo11b2o23bo4b2o25bo2b3o$27bo2bo16bo2bo16bo2bo5bobo8b
o2bo4b2o15bo4bo2bo4b2o20bo$28bobo17bobo17bobo5b2o10bobo4b2o21bobo4b2o
21bobo2bo$27b2ob2o15b2ob2o15b2ob2o7b2o6b2ob2o25b2ob2o11bo13b2ob4o$29bo
2bo16bo2bo16bo2bo6bobo7bo2bo26bo2bo9b2o15bo$29bobo17bobo17bobo7bo9bobo
27bobo10bobo14bobo$30bo19bo19bo19bo29bo29b2o3$128b3o$128bo$129bo8$35b
2o$34bo2bo$35b2o$38b3o$38bo$39bo!

Now that it's appeared in the Catagolue, it would be an abhorrent disgrace if we can't halve the requisite number of gliders.

[Scorbie]

What the...?!

Wow. I daydreamed of Elkies' p5 showing up on apgsearch (seriously) but never thought it could be real.

Here's the isolated reaction:

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x = 28, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
bo3bo$obobobo$obobobo$bo3bo5$3o13bo$16bo$16bo7$o$o24b3o$o23bo2bo$24b3o
$12b2o$12b2o7$6bo$6bo$6bo!

Well, at least we have a slow-salvo recipe

Now that it's appeared in the Catagolue, it would be an abhorrent disgrace if we can't halve the requisite number of gliders.

I'm not sure if this reaction could lead to a sub-12-glider synthesis... but I think we could find the still life predecessor in fewer gliders now...!

EDIT: Anyone going for an eight-glider synthesis of the still life? (This is the only soup in Catagolue)

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x = 9, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$b2o2bo$2o3bo$5bo4$7bo$4bob3o$5bo2bo$6b2o!

[dvgrn]

Now that it's appeared in the Catagolue, it would be an abhorrent disgrace if we can't halve the requisite number of gliders.

I'm not sure if this reaction could lead to a sub-12-glider synthesis... but I think we could find the still life predecessor in fewer gliders now...!

If single gliders can be substituted in for enough of the blinkers and blocks, there's at least a chance at a twelve-glider synthesis of the oscillator, but suppressing the junk is going to be a problem --

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#C three blinkers, three blocks, two beehives and an R -> Elkies' p5
#C (plus a lot of junk)
x = 27, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
bo3bo$obobobo$obobobo$bo3bo5$3o6$23bobo$23b2o$23bo$o$o$o2$12b2o$12b2o
6$25b2o$6bo14b2o2b2o$6bo14b2o$6bo!
[[ AUTOSTART PAUSE 5 STOP 400 ]]

[BobShemyakin]

calcyman wrote:
Apparently it's called Elkies' p5 and has a 25-glider synthesis:

Replacing the first two steps on one, reduce the number of gliders up to 24:

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x = 131, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
24bo$24bobo$24b2o2$21bo$22b2o17b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o$21b2o17bo2bo16b
o2bo16bo2bo16bo2bo5bobo8bo2bo$26b2o13bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo5b2o10bobo$
25b2o13b2ob2o15b2ob2o15b2ob2o15b2ob2o5bo2b3o4b2ob2o$27bo85bo8bo2bo$17b
2o70b2o18b2o3bo7bobo$16bobo50bobo5b2o9bo2bo5b2o9bo2bo11bo$18bo37bobo
10b2o5bo2bo8bo2bo4bo2bo3bo4bo2bo$57b2o11bo5bo2bo9b2o5bo2bo2b2o5b2o$57b
o19b2o18b2o3bobo$70b2o38bo$56b2o12bobo36b2o$55bobo12bo29b3o6bobo$57bo
44bo$101bo5$128b2o$127bo2bo$128b2o11$90bobo11bobo$91b2o7bo3b2o$85bo5bo
6b2o5bo$86b2o11b2o$85b2o$79b2o$78bobo$80bo3b3o32bo$b2o18b2o18b2o6bo11b
2o23bo4b2o25bo2b3o$o2bo16bo2bo16bo2bo5bobo8bo2bo4b2o15bo4bo2bo4b2o20bo
$bobo17bobo17bobo5b2o10bobo4b2o21bobo4b2o21bobo2bo$2ob2o15b2ob2o15b2ob
2o7b2o6b2ob2o25b2ob2o11bo13b2ob4o$2bo2bo16bo2bo16bo2bo6bobo7bo2bo26bo
2bo9b2o15bo$2bobo17bobo17bobo7bo9bobo27bobo10bobo14bobo$3bo19bo19bo19b
o29bo29b2o3$101b3o$101bo$102bo8$8b2o$7bo2bo$8b2o$11b3o$11bo$12bo!

Bob Shemyakin

[biggiemac]

Well, spark + hive easily makes a large portion of the final active object - simple to do with 4G but someone with gencols could look for a way to do it in 3. The piece that gets added comes from something paperclippy. From there I found a 2G cleanup, giving a good chance of getting a final recipe under 10G.

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x = 35, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
9bo20b3o$bo6bo21bo2bo$2b2o4b3o18bo3bo$b2o28bob2o$30b2obo$12b2o15bo2bo$
11bo2bo14b3o$12b2o16bo21$6bobo$7b2o$7bo5$30b3o$30bo2bo$29bo3bo$31bob2o
$23bo6b2obo$22b2obo3bo2bo$26bo2b3o$24bobo3bo$24bob2o$24bo2bo$25b2o22$
17b2o$16bobo$18bo!

(Edit: Backed up 3 gens to show the paperclippy spark)

[Scorbie]

A seemingly new p6 with a slight spark:

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
o2bo2b2obo2b3ob3o2bob2o2bo2bo$3bob9o3b9obo$2bob3o3bobob3obobo3b3obo$2o
bo4bo2b2obobob2o2bo4bob2o$2bob3o4b3o3b3o4b3obo$b2ob4o2b11o2b4ob2o$3ob
2o6b2obob2o6b2ob3o$2o3bobo2b2obo3bob2o2bobo3b2o$bobo4bobobob3obobobo4b
obo$2o10b2o3b2o10b2o$b2o2bob2o4b2ob2o4b2obo2b2o$bob3obo7bo7bob3obo$7ob
2o2b7o2b2ob7o$2o2b4ob2ob3ob3ob2ob4o2b2o$ob2obo2bobob2obob2obobo2bob2ob
o$2bo2b2obo2b2ob3ob2o2bob2o2bo$ob2obo2bobob2obob2obobo2bob2obo$2o2b4ob
2ob3ob3ob2ob4o2b2o$7ob2o2b7o2b2ob7o$bob3obo7bo7bob3obo$b2o2bob2o4b2ob
2o4b2obo2b2o$2o10b2o3b2o10b2o$bobo4bobobob3obobobo4bobo$2o3bobo2b2obo
3bob2o2bobo3b2o$3ob2o6b2obob2o6b2ob3o$b2ob4o2b11o2b4ob2o$2bob3o4b3o3b
3o4b3obo$2obo4bo2b2obobob2o2bo4bob2o$2bob3o3bobob3obobo3b3obo$3bob9o3b
9obo$o2bo2b2obo2b3ob3o2bob2o2bo2bo!

[praosylen]

Reaction edgeshoots a cis-bipole on dock:

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x = 21, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
4bo5b3o$3bobo2bo3b2o$3bobo2bobo2b2o$bo2bo2bo5bo5bo$bo6bo2b2o5bobo$obo
5bo10b2o$b2o5$13b2o$13b2o3$9bo$9bo5b3o$9bo$13bo5bo$13bo5bo$13bo5bo2$
15b3o!

[Alexey_Nigin]

Look at this:

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x = 130, y = 86, rule = B3/S23
72b2o$72bobo$73b2o9$63b2o$63b2o3$96b2o$96b2o3$67b2o$67b2o3$32bo$32bo$
32bo25b2o$35b2o20bo2bo$35b2o20bobo$58bo4$32b2o29b2o$32b2o2b2o24bo2bo$b
2o33b2o13b3o8bobo$o2bo59bo$o2bo3b2o99b2o$b2o3bo2bo57b2o39b2o$6bobo58b
2o$7bo97bo$104bobo$105b2o$57b2o$57b2o43bo$95bo5bobo$94bobo4b2o$63b2o
29bobo$10b2o50bo2bo29bo$9bo2bo40bo9b2o$9bo2bo40bo65b2o$10b2o41bo64bo2b
o$98b2o19b2o$49b3o3b3o40b2o28b2o$128b2o$114bo$113bobo$113bobo$7b2o26b
2o77bo$6bo2bo25b2o$7b2o2$24b2o$24b2o30b3o$56bobo17b2o$55bo2bo17b2o$39b
2o14bobo$39bobo13b3o11bo$40bo27bobo$69bo10$82b2o$81bo2bo$73bo8b2o$72bo
bo$73b2o3bo$77bobo$77bobo$78bo!

This is relatively interesting, but not jaw-dropping so far.

Now, try removing four leftmost SLs.

[Kiran]

Why so suboptimal?

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x = 129, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
95b2o$95bo3$66b2o$66bo3$31bo$31bo$31bo26bo$34bo22b2o$34b2o20b2o5$31b2o
30bo$32bo2b2o25b2o$bo33bo14b3o8b2o$b2o$o6bo99b2o$6b2o58b2o39bo$5b2o60b
o$104bo$103bobo$104b2o$56b2o$56bo44bo$94bo5bobo$94bo5b2o$94bo$61b4o29b
o$10bo41bo$8b2o42bo$9bo42bo64b4o$97b2o$48b3o3b3o40bo29b2o$128bo$113bo$
113bo$113bo$34b2o77bo$5b4o26bo3$23b2o$24bo31bo$56bo18b2o$55b2o18bo$38b
2o15bo$38bobo14bo12bo$39bo27bobo$68bo11$80b4o$72bo$71bobo$72b2o3bo$77b
o$77b2o!

[simsim314]

Slow salvo friendly synthesis of SL capable to function as eater2 appeared in a soup:

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#C [[ THUMBNAIL ]]
x = 25, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$bobo$2bo3$22b2o$21bo2bo$22b2o3$13bo$13bo$6b2o5bo$6bobo$8bo6b
3o$6b3o!

http://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C ... 3342/b3s23

EDIT

Another variation (two gliders + very messy result):

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#C [[ THUMBNAIL ]]
x = 28, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
6bo$6bo$6bo7bo$13b3o$12b2ob2o9b2o$11b2o3b2o8b2o$12b2ob2o20$3o11b2o$2bo
10bo2bo$bo12b2o6$10b2o$10b2o!

http://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C ... 3545/b3s23

[codeholic]

There are 2 soups that produce an eater2 variant with the smallest bounding box.

http://catagolue.appspot.com/object?apg ... rule=b3s23

One of them appears rather early, the other one is produced by a collision of R-pentomino, Pi, century and a Phi spark.

[praosylen]

It seems that the p3 oscillator xp3_6a889b8ozx33 has made a surge in occurrences; as of yesterday there was only one instance (two if you count the D4_x4 soup), but now there are 4 in the main census.

[praosylen]

It appears that there is a 33-cell still life that has shown up on Catagolue; here is the soup:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
booboboobbbbobbo$
bboobbboboooobbo$
oboobobobooboooo$
bobooobbbbobobob$
booobooobooobooo$
oobboobbobbbbobo$
bobbobbooobbbboo$
obboooooobbbbooo$
bobooboobooobbbb$
oobobbbbbbboooob$
bobobbbboooooobb$
bobooooooooobobb$
bbbboboobbbooboo$
bbbobbobbbbobobo$
boobboobobbboobb$
oooobbbbbbbbbobb!

[Freywa]

It appears that there is a 33-cell still life that has shown up on Catagolue; here is the soup:

What?!

[Scorbie]

Huh, Impressive to see that an odd-high-bit-count still life occured (as opposed to what dvgrn expected)! So would that be "narrow clef with handle" (Freywa's nomenclature) or something like Long Aries betwist two blocks?

It seems that the p3 oscillator xp3_6a889b8ozx33 has made a surge in occurrences; as of yesterday there was only one instance (two if you count the D4_x4 soup), but now there are 4 in the main census.

And this seems to be the most common variant of the cuphook oscillator rotor.