Slo-Gro (B2ek3/S2-ek3)

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Slo-Gro (B2ek3/S2-ek3)

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This is an erratic/explosive rule, but a slow one.
See this 20 x 20 soup:

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x = 20, y = 20, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
o13b3o$5b2ob3obo2bob2o$o5bo7bobob2o$o3bo2b3o2b2o3bobo$3bobobo3bo3b3o$b
2o2b2obob2obob2o2bo$o2bobo2b2obo2b4obo$3o2bo2b2ob5o3bo$bob3o4bobo3b2ob
o$bo4b2o3bo3bob2o$b3o4bo5bo2b3o$ob2o5bo4bob3o$2bo2bo2b4o3bo2bo$2bo2bob
2o5bo2bobo$b3o2bo4bo3b3o$o2b3o2bobo2bobo$2bob3obobo6b3o$7bob2ob3o$3obo
3b2ob2obo$4bob2o2b2o2b2obobo!
You can see it explodes, but grows slower than, say, Seeds (B2/S).

The same soup in Seeds for comparison:

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x = 20, y = 20, rule = B2/S
o13b3o$5b2ob3obo2bob2o$o5bo7bobob2o$o3bo2b3o2b2o3bobo$3bobobo3bo3b3o$b
2o2b2obob2obob2o2bo$o2bobo2b2obo2b4obo$3o2bo2b2ob5o3bo$bob3o4bobo3b2ob
o$bo4b2o3bo3bob2o$b3o4bo5bo2b3o$ob2o5bo4bob3o$2bo2bo2b4o3bo2bo$2bo2bob
2o5bo2bobo$b3o2bo4bo3b3o$o2b3o2bobo2bobo$2bob3obobo6b3o$7bob2ob3o$3obo
3b2ob2obo$4bob2o2b2o2b2obobo!
But here's the thing: small patterns don't explode here at all! Look at these patterns from Life:

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x = 27, y = 3, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
2bo5b3o5b3o6bo$b3o4bobo4bo3bo4b2o$2obo4bobo4b2ob2o5b2o!
The smallest explosive pattern I've found has 11 cells (can there be a smaller one?).

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x = 3, y = 6, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
bo$obo$b2o$b2o$obo$2o!
Oscillators:

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x = 31, y = 12, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
28bo$16b2o11b2o$o4bo10bobo3b2o3b2o$bo3b2o4b3o3b2o2bo2bo4bo5$bo5bobo$2o
5b2o$2b2o3b2o3b2o$2bo3bobo3b2o!
All the oscillators at the top are p2. Surprisingly, there's no small still lifes other than the block.

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Re: Slo-Gro (B2ek3/S2-ek3)

Post by confocaloid »

I'm currently skeptical about this CA rule. Most soups grow, making apgsearch useless. I did not find any small common gliders.

Most CA rules do not need their own threads. Before creating a new thread, consider posting either in TFYUCA thread or MDiOCA thread, to see whether there are replies from others.
d/dx wrote: April 5th, 2024, 10:27 am The smallest explosive pattern I've found has 11 cells (can there be a smaller one?).

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x = 3, y = 6, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
bo$obo$b2o$b2o$obo$2o!
6 bits:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
2o$2bo$2b2o$2bo!
d/dx wrote: April 5th, 2024, 10:27 amShare your finds! :mrgreen:
p4 orthogonal c/2 spaceship found using qfind 2.3:

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x = 7, y = 13, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
2b3o$2b3o$3bo2$2bobo$obobobo$obobobo2$2bobo$o2bo2bo$o2bo2bo$3bo
$b2ob2o!
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Re: Slo-Gro (B2ek3/S2-ek3)

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I searched the entire OCA forum and there were no mentions of this rule, so I made a new thread. I think that makes sense.

p4 oscillator:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
bo$b3o$b2o$obo!
7 cell exploder:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
2bo$2b2o$2o$2o!
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Re: Slo-Gro (B2ek3/S2-ek3)

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d/dx wrote: April 5th, 2024, 11:07 am I searched the entire OCA forum and there were no mentions of this rule, so I made a new thread. I think that makes sense.
It does not make sense to create a new forum thread for every CA rule, because there are too many of them. Even restricting to Life-like cellular automata (which this rule is not), there are 2^18 = 262144 of them. Can you imagine having that many forum threads? Would that be useful?

Before/instead of creating a new thread, please post in an existing thread (TFYUCA/MDiOCA) to see whether other people consider the rule interesting enough. If there are replies from others / new discoveries, then maybe it makes sense to create a dedicated thread. If nobody replies, most likely a new thread is not needed.
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Re: Slo-Gro (B2ek3/S2-ek3)

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5 cell explosion:

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
bo$o$b2o$bo!
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Re: Not-So-Slo-Gro (B2ek3/S2-ek3)

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I don't classify the SloGro explosions as "slow", since DryLife explosions are slower:

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = B37/S23
!
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Compared to B2ek3/S2-ek3 explosions:

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
!
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Even if they're slower than Seeds explosions:

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = B2/S
!
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P4:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
b2o$3bo$o$b2o!
Can any mod merge this thread to Unrecognized CA thread, please?
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Re: Slo-Gro (B2ek3/S2-ek3)

Post by iddi01 »

I think the name "Slo-Gro" befits this much better (though i was planning to call it "CityBuilder"):

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x = 31, y = 9, rule = B35i/S23-acny4eijkrw5-aeij6-a7
5bo$5bo$3b5o19b4o$3o2bo22bobo$obo2bo22b3o$3o2bo$5bo$5bo$5bo!
Also, instead of merging into Misc. discoveries or Unrec. CA, i think this could be turned into a generalized thread for very slowly growing explosive rules.
(As in the opposite of this thread)

This is already the third time i suggested to turn a thread into a generalized one, but my previous two suggestions got ignored completely.

edit: Yes, the suggestion got ignored completely this time as well...
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First gun i constructed:

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x = 69, y = 69, rule = B3-n/S1e2-a3-e4e
2$32b3o$32bobo$32bobo$32b3o27$63b4o$b4o58bo2bo$bo2bo23bo4b2o28b4o$b4o
21bobo$28bo21$35bo$34b3o6$33b3o$33bobo$33bobo$33b3o!
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Re: Not-So-Slo-Gro (B2ek3/S2-ek3)

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b-engine wrote: April 5th, 2024, 6:11 pm
P4:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
b2o$3bo$o$b2o!
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Re: B2ek3/S2-ek3

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unname4798 wrote: April 5th, 2024, 12:47 pm 5 cell explosion:

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
bo$o$b2o$bo!
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Another 5-cell explosion:

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
bo$obo$o2bo!
Can we make a (28,3)c/84 spaceship??

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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3-e4i5-a/S2-i3-a4cr5e6c
o$obo$b2o$2o!
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x = 6, y = 5, rule = 2-ak34/2kn3-r4aijnr5c/5
.3A$.ABA$DAD2A$.ABADC$.3A2B!
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Re: Slo-Gro (B2ek3/S2-ek3)

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4-cell explosion:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
bo$obo2$3bo!
EDIT:
Mini toad:

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2ek3/S2-ek3
bo$o2bo$2bo!
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Thread for slowly growing rules

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My candidate is slower:

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x = 64, y = 64, rule = B3ai45678/S4678
2b3ob2obo2b3obob3ob2o6bo2bo4bobo3b2obobob2obob2obobobo$5bo4b5o2bo3bob
ob8o2bo2bo3b3ob3o3b2obobob2o$bo2b2o2bob2o6bo3bo3b4ob2o2bobob2o2bob3o2b
2obob2o3b2o$2bo4bob4o2bo2bo2bo4bo3bobo3b2o2bo3bobob2o4bo2bobobobo$o2b
3ob2ob3obobo3bo3bobob5ob2ob2o2bobo2bobob2o6bob3o$b2o3bob2obobobo3b6ob
2ob6o3b3obobobo2bo2bobo4bobo$o3bo2b2obobo3bo2b3o2bobob3o2bob5o2bo5bo2b
4ob2o5bo$o2bob2ob3ob2obo2b2o2b2o4b2obobo4b4o3bobo5b4o2b3obo$bo3b2ob3o
bo5b3ob2o2b3o2bo3b3ob2obo2b2o2b2ob3o2bo2bo2bo$o3bobo3b2ob4o6b3o2b2o3b
ob2o3b3o2bobo2b4ob2obobo$b3o2bob3obobo6bob4ob2o2bo4bobo4b5o5bobob2o$3b
2o2b2o2b2obob2o3bob3obo2b2o2bo3bo2bobo3b2ob3obo2bo2b3o$b7obob2o2bo6b2o
6b5ob2obob2obob3obobo2bo2b2o$5obob4o2bobo2b2o2bobob2ob3o3bo2b2o2b3ob3o
2bob3obo2bobo$b5o3bob2o3bobo2bo2bo2b2obo3bob3o4bobo2b6o4b2ob2o$b2o2b2o
2b2o5bobo2bob3ob2o2bo2b4obob3obobob5ob5o$5ob4ob4obo2b3ob3obo2bo4bobob
o2bo3b2obo3bobobobo2b2o$bo4b2obo3b5o2b4obo2b2obo2b3o2b2obo2bob3o6b2o3b
3o$3ob3ob2o3b2o4b2obo3b3o4b4ob2obo3b2o3bo2b2obo2bo2bo$2obobo3b3obo2b3o
2b4o4b2o3bo2bob2obob2ob2obobob2ob3ob2o$2b4o2b2o2bo2bob2o2bobob7ob3o5b
o2bob8o3b2ob3o$2b2o3bobo2b2o2b2o3bobo3b3ob2o3b5o3bo3bob3o2bob2o$o2bo3b
ob2o3bo2bob3obo3bob2o5b2o2b3obob2o4bo4b3obo$2o2bo2b4o2b3o3b7ob3ob2o2b
2obo3bob4o2bobo2b2obo$ob4ob2o2bo5b2o2b4o2bo2bo5bob2o3b2obo2bo2b3o3b2o
b3o$2bob2o2b2o2b3obob2ob3o3bob3ob4obob2o5b3o2bob4ob2ob2o$b2obobo2b3ob
2o2b4o2b3ob2ob2o3b2ob3o3bo2bob2obobo3bo2bobo$3obob2obobo7b2obo4b8obo7b
2obo2b2ob2o5b3o$2ob3o3bobo2bob2obob2ob6obobobobobo2bo3b2o2bo4b3o$2o2b
o4b3obobo2bobo3b4obo3b2ob3ob2ob2o2b5ob2obob3obo$bobo3bob3o3bobo2bob3o
5bobobobo2bo4b3o4b2o2bo3b2o$b4ob2o4b2ob2o6b2obobo2bo4b2obob3o2b3obobo
2bob3ob2o$ob3o2b5ob2o6bobobo3bobob2ob2obo2bob2ob4o3bo4bo3bo$b3o2b6obo
b3obob3o2bo2b2o4bo4b2obob3o4b4ob2o3b2o$b4o2bo3b2o4bobobob3o3b4ob2o3bo
b2ob5ob5ob3obo2bo$o3bo2b9o2b4o2bobob2ob4ob3ob2obob2o2bo4bo3bo2bobo$b4o
2b2o2bob4ob3o2b2o4bob3ob2ob2o3bob3ob2obo2b4obo2bo$4b2ob4ob2ob3obobo6b
3obobo2b2o2bo2b2o2b2obo3b2ob2o2b2o$b2obo2b2o2b3ob2o2b3ob2obo7b3obob2o
2b2o2b2o2b3obo2bobo$4bobo3b2ob2o3bobo2b4obo3bobob2o2b2o2b2o2b3o6bob3o
bo$b2o2b3o2bob3o2bob4obob5ob2o2b2ob4o3b3o2b2o2bobobob3o$bo3bobo2bo2b4o
3b3obob2ob3obob2ob2obob4o4b3obo5b3o$bo2bo3bo4b4o3b2o2b4o2bobo2b2o2b3o
4b4ob2o3b3o2bo$ob4o4bobob6o2bo4bo2b6ob6o2bob4obo2b4o3b2o$b4o7bo4b2o6b
4o3b2ob2o2bo2b2o2b6o2b2ob2o2b2o$obob2o3bobobobo3bo2b2ob2o2bobo6b3o2b2o
bo3b2o2bo4b3obo$b3o5b2obo3b2obo3b2o3b10obobo4bo2b2o4bo4b3o$4b3o4bo2bo
3bob2obob3obobobob2ob3ob2obo2bob2o2bo4b3obo$obobo2b8o3bob2o2b4o2bobob
4obob2obo2b2ob2obo2b2obobobo$2o3bob2o2bobobobo3b2ob2ob2ob3ob3o12bobo7b
ob3o$o5b2o3bo3bobob5o3bo3bo5b4ob3ob2o3bo2b7o2bo$o4bo2bobo2bob10ob2ob2o
2b2ob2o2b3o2bo2b4o6b5o$2bob4o2b2o3bob2obo3b5o3bob2o2bobobob3o3b2ob3o2b
4o$o5bo3b3o2b2o2bob3obob3o2b2o2bo2bobobob2ob2obobob2obo4bo$2b2o2bob2o
2bo4bo4b2o2b2ob3o2b3obo2b6ob2o4b2obob5o$2bob3obo3bo7bo2bo2bo4b3o3bo2b
ob4ob6o2b5o2bo$bo2bobob2obo3b2ob2ob3ob2o4b2o2b4o4bo3bobob7obob3o$4b3o
2b4o4b2o3b2ob4o2b2o8b2o2bo3bobob2ob2o3b2o$3bobo4bob3o3b5o3b2o2b2obob2o
b8o3bo2b2ob3obob2o$3ob2obo2bobobo4b2ob2ob2obo2bobob2obo2bo6b3o3b3o3bo
b2o$b4ob2o2bobob3o2bobob2ob3o2b2o6b2o2bobo2b2o4bo5b3o$2ob3o2bo3bo2b2o
b2o2bo3bobob4o2bobo2b3obo2b4o5bobobobo$2obo5b2o5b2ob3ob7o4bo2b5obobo4b
o3b2obo4b2o$4o3b2o2bobob2o2bob2o2bob2obo3bob3obobobo2b2ob4o4bo2b3o!
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