Coexistence

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Re: Coexistence

Post by breaker's glider gun »

C_R_116 wrote: March 3rd, 2023, 8:48 pm Figure Eight is acting strange:

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x = 24, y = 24, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
8o$8o$8o$8o$8o4b4o$8o4b4o$8o4b4o$8o4b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$4b4o$
4b4o$4b4o$4b4o$8b4o4b8o$8b4o4b8o$8b4o4b8o$8b4o4b8o$16b8o$16b8o$16b8o$
16b8o!
More figure-eighty:

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5b2ob4ob2o$4b12o$4b12o$5b2ob4ob2o$b2obo2b2o2b2o2bo$4o$4o$b2obo2b2o2b2o
2bo$5o2b2o2bo4b4o$4o12b4o$4o12b4o$5o2b2o2bo4b4o$b2obo2bo5b2o5b4o$4o8b
4o4b4o$4o8b4o4b4o$b2obo2bo5b2o5b4o$8b4o5b2o5bo2bob2o$8b4o4b4o8b4o$8b4o
4b4o8b4o$8b4o5b2o5bo2bob2o$12b4o4bo2b2o2b5o$12b4o12b4o$12b4o12b4o$12b
4o4bo2b2o2b5o$16bo2b2o2b2o2bob2o$28b4o$28b4o$16bo2b2o2b2o2bob2o$17b2o
b4ob2o$16b12o$16b12o$17b2ob4ob2o!
:?: :?: . . . :!:
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Re: Coexistence

Post by FWKnightship »

Gliders made up of blocks and dominoes: (in the original rule)

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x = 31, y = 14, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
25b2o$4b2o3$2o2b2o2b2o11b2o2b2o$2o2b2o15b2o2b2o2b2o3$2o19b2o6b2o$2o6b
2o11b2o3$4b2o$25b2o!
24c/12:

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x = 18, y = 18, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4b2o2b2o2b2o$4b2o2b2o2b2o3$2o10b2o$2o10b2o3$2o2b2o6bo4bo$2o2b2o6bo4bo
3$9bo$9bo3$9bo$9bo!
How did I found it:

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = DominoCoexistence
5A.A.B2AC3A.3AC2AB.A.5A$3A2.A2.2A2.2C3.2C2.2A2.A2.3A$2A3.2A2.5A3.5A2.
2A3.2A$A4.AB.2A.A2.3A2.A.2A.BA4.A$A3.3A.3A2.A3.A2.3A.3A3.A$.4A.B.C2A
3.3A3.2AC.B.4A$A.ABAB3A.3A.A.A.3A.3ABABA.A$6.A2.2A3.A.A3.2A2.A$BA.2AC
A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.AC2A.AB$6A.2A.A.A5.A.A.2A.6A$A.A.4A.A2.B2A.2AB2.A.
4A.A.A$C.2A2.A4.A.5A.A4.A2.2A.C$ACA3.A.2AB3.ABA3.B2A.A3.ACA$ACA.A5.2A
.5A.2A5.A.ACA$A2.A.3A2.4AC.C4A2.3A.A2.A$3.A.A2.A2.ABA3.ABA2.A2.A.A$A
2.A.3A2.4AC.C4A2.3A.A2.A$ACA.A5.2A.5A.2A5.A.ACA$ACA3.A.2AB3.ABA3.B2A.
A3.ACA$C.2A2.A4.A.5A.A4.A2.2A.C$A.A.4A.A2.B2A.2AB2.A.4A.A.A$6A.2A.A.A
5.A.A.2A.6A$BA.2ACA2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.AC2A.AB$6.A2.2A3.A.A3.2A2.A$A.ABA
B3A.3A.A.A.3A.3ABABA.A$.4A.B.C2A3.3A3.2AC.B.4A$A3.3A.3A2.A3.A2.3A.3A
3.A$A4.AB.2A.A2.3A2.A.2A.BA4.A$2A3.2A2.5A3.5A2.2A3.2A$3A2.A2.2A2.2C3.
2C2.2A2.A2.3A$5A.A.B2AC3A.3AC2AB.A.5A!
@RULE DominoCoexistence

@TREE

num_states=4
num_neighbors=8
num_nodes=214
1 0 1 0 0
1 0 0 0 0
1 0 3 0 0
1 0 2 0 0
2 0 1 2 3
1 0 1 2 3
1 0 2 2 0
1 0 3 0 3
2 1 5 6 7
1 0 1 2 0
2 2 6 9 1
1 0 1 0 3
2 3 7 1 11
3 4 8 10 12
1 1 1 3 2
1 2 1 0 1
1 3 1 1 0
2 5 14 15 16
1 2 2 0 2
2 6 15 18 5
1 3 3 3 0
2 7 16 5 20
3 8 17 19 21
1 2 1 0 2
2 9 18 23 6
3 10 19 24 8
1 3 1 3 0
2 11 20 7 26
3 12 21 8 27
4 13 22 25 28
2 14 1 20 18
2 15 20 7 14
2 16 18 14 6
3 17 30 31 32
2 18 7 1 15
3 19 31 34 17
2 20 6 16 1
3 21 32 17 36
4 22 33 35 37
2 23 1 2 18
3 24 34 39 19
4 25 35 40 22
2 26 1 20 3
3 27 36 21 42
4 28 37 22 43
5 29 38 41 44
2 1 1 1 1
2 20 1 20 1
2 18 1 1 18
3 30 46 47 48
2 7 20 7 20
3 31 47 50 30
2 6 18 18 6
3 32 48 30 52
4 33 49 51 53
2 1 7 1 7
3 34 50 55 31
4 35 51 56 33
2 1 6 6 1
3 36 52 32 58
4 37 53 33 59
5 38 54 57 60
2 2 1 2 1
3 39 55 62 34
4 40 56 63 35
5 41 57 64 38
2 3 1 1 3
3 42 58 36 66
4 43 59 37 67
5 44 60 38 68
6 45 61 65 69
3 46 46 46 46
3 47 46 47 46
3 48 46 46 48
4 49 71 72 73
3 50 47 50 47
4 51 72 75 49
3 52 48 48 52
4 53 73 49 77
5 54 74 76 78
3 55 50 55 50
4 56 75 80 51
5 57 76 81 54
3 58 52 52 58
4 59 77 53 83
5 60 78 54 84
6 61 79 82 85
3 62 55 62 55
4 63 80 87 56
5 64 81 88 57
6 65 82 89 61
3 66 58 58 66
4 67 83 59 91
5 68 84 60 92
6 69 85 61 93
7 70 86 90 94
1 0 0 1 1
1 0 0 2 2
1 0 0 3 3
2 1 96 97 98
2 1 97 97 1
2 1 98 1 98
3 46 99 100 101
3 46 100 100 46
3 46 101 46 101
4 71 102 103 104
1 3 3 1 2
2 20 97 106 1
3 47 100 107 46
4 72 103 108 71
1 2 2 3 1
2 18 98 1 110
3 48 101 46 111
4 73 104 71 112
5 74 105 109 113
1 0 3 2 1
2 7 106 115 20
3 50 107 116 47
4 75 108 117 72
5 76 109 118 74
1 0 2 1 3
2 6 110 18 120
3 52 111 48 121
4 77 112 73 122
5 78 113 74 123
6 79 114 119 124
2 1 115 97 7
3 55 116 126 50
4 80 117 127 75
5 81 118 128 76
6 82 119 129 79
2 1 120 6 98
3 58 121 52 131
4 83 122 77 132
5 84 123 78 133
6 85 124 79 134
7 86 125 130 135
1 0 3 2 2
2 2 97 137 1
3 62 126 138 55
4 87 127 139 80
5 88 128 140 81
6 89 129 141 82
7 90 130 142 86
1 0 2 3 3
2 3 98 1 144
3 66 131 58 145
4 91 132 83 146
5 92 133 84 147
6 93 134 85 148
7 94 135 86 149
8 95 136 143 150
2 96 1 98 97
2 97 98 1 96
2 98 97 96 1
3 99 152 153 154
2 97 1 1 97
3 100 153 156 99
2 98 1 98 1
3 101 154 99 158
4 102 155 157 159
3 100 156 156 100
4 103 157 161 102
3 101 158 101 158
4 104 159 102 163
5 105 160 162 164
2 106 1 20 97
3 107 156 166 100
4 108 161 167 103
5 109 162 168 105
2 110 1 98 18
3 111 158 101 170
4 112 163 104 171
5 113 164 105 172
6 114 165 169 173
2 115 20 7 106
3 116 166 175 107
4 117 167 176 108
5 118 168 177 109
6 119 169 178 114
2 120 18 110 6
3 121 170 111 180
4 122 171 112 181
5 123 172 113 182
6 124 173 114 183
7 125 174 179 184
2 97 7 1 115
3 126 175 186 116
4 127 176 187 117
5 128 177 188 118
6 129 178 189 119
7 130 179 190 125
2 98 6 120 1
3 131 180 121 192
4 132 181 122 193
5 133 182 123 194
6 134 183 124 195
7 135 184 125 196
8 136 185 191 197
2 137 1 2 97
3 138 186 199 126
4 139 187 200 127
5 140 188 201 128
6 141 189 202 129
7 142 190 203 130
8 143 191 204 136
2 144 1 98 3
3 145 192 131 206
4 146 193 132 207
5 147 194 133 208
6 148 195 134 209
7 149 196 135 210
8 150 197 136 211
9 151 198 205 212
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Re: Coexistence

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Toad conversion:

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 x = 22, y = 21, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
19bobo$19b2o$20bo4$bo$obo$bo2$bo3bo$obobobo$bo3bo2$bo3bo$obobobo$bo3b
o2$5bo$4bobo$5bo!
107 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Coexistence

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Really weird happening:

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4o$2obo$ob2o$4o$4o4b4o$2obo4b2obo$ob2o4bob2o$4o4b4o$8o$2ob3obo$ob3ob2o
$8o!

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
8o$ob3ob2o$2ob3obo$8o$4o4b4o$ob2o4bob2o$2obo4b2obo$4o4b4o$4o$ob2o$2ob
o$4o!
EDIT: nevermind, fixed
Last edited by unname4798 on August 29th, 2023, 11:51 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Coexistence

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unname4798 wrote: August 24th, 2023, 2:43 pm Really weird happening:

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4o$2obo$ob2o$4o$4o4b4o$2obo4b2obo$ob2o4bob2o$4o4b4o$8o$2ob3obo$ob3ob2o
$8o!

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
8o$ob3ob2o$2ob3obo$8o$4o4b4o$ob2o4bob2o$2obo4b2obo$4o4b4o$4o$ob2o$2ob
o$4o!
That’s because HROT somehow got broken.
Proof:

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 x = 116, y = 16, rule = R4,C2,S2-3,21-26,30-35,B3,27-32,NW090000000900000009000000000000000000000000000000000000000000010101000000090000010001000009000000010101000000000000000000000000000000000000000000090000000900000009
68b4o$68b4o$68b4o$68b4o$8o60b8o32b8o$8o60b8o32b8o$8o60b8o32b8o$8o60b8o
32b8o$8o64b8o28b8o$8o64b8o28b8o$8o64b8o28b8o$8o64b8o28b8o$68b8o$68b8o
$68b8o$68b8o!
107 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Coexistence

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I know this a a doublepost, but weird class 4A glider:

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 x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4b2o$4bo$4bo2bo$4b4o$8b2o$8bo$8bo2bo$8b4o$2o2b2o2b2o$o3bo3bo$o2b2o2b2o
2bo$12o!
Edit: cursed trivial P6

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 x = 11, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
3b8o$3b8o$3b8o$3b8o$3b8o$3b8o$3bo2b5o$3bo2b5o3$o$2o!
107 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Coexistence

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Just curious: Is the weighted neighbourhood the same as NF?
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Re: Coexistence

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Ohhhhhhhhh wrote: September 12th, 2022, 2:31 am Here's a rule which simulates B3/S23 completely in 2*2, but failed to do so (at all) in 1*1.
It's notable that 2*2 neigbhourhood are usually even harder to design since it's really close to 1*1.
R2,C2,S2,17-21,24-29,B3,21-26,NW7070701110710170111070707
There must be some better ways to do this, but I can't think of any other weights.
The rule only contains one common 1*1 object - the blinker which works the same as in Life.
blocks and especially ships are strong catalysts to 1*1 cells (comparingly better).
Sorry if I'm posting something useless/off-topic.
Here’s a more active version of the rule:

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x = 22, y = 39, rule = R2,C2,S2,7,17-21,24-29,B3,6,10,20-26,NW7070701110710170111070707
4b2o$4b2o$6o$6o$2o2b2o$2o2b2o$2o$2o26$16b4o$16b4o$16b2o2b2o$16b2o2b2o
$16b2o$16b2o!
107 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Coexistence

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A shuttle-like oscillator somehow appeared in nbsearch2:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5bo2$5bo$4bobo$o3b2ob2o$4bobo$5bo2$5bo!
EDIT:
Big pentadecathlon works, but small one doesn't:

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x = 40, y = 44, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
17bo4bo$15b2ob4ob2o$17bo4bo30$8b4o16b4o$8b4o16b4o$8b4o16b4o$8b4o16b4o
$8o4b16o4b8o$8o4b16o4b8o$8o4b16o4b8o$8o4b16o4b8o$8b4o16b4o$8b4o16b4o$
8b4o16b4o$8b4o16b4o!
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Re: Coexistence

Post by hotcrystal0 »

Reviving this thread.
Fully inflated eureka becomes a P… I don’t know:

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x = 72, y = 44, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o$4o4b4o12b12o24b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b
12o24b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b12o24b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b12o24b4o4b4o$4b4o16b4o4b4o
28b4o$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o$24b12o
$24b12o$24b12o$24b12o13$24b12o$24b12o$24b12o$24b12o$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o
$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o$4o4b4o12b12o
24b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b12o24b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b12o24b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b12o24b
4o4b4o$4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o!
Edit: here it is after exactly 100000 generations:

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x = 74, y = 60, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
30b2o$29b4o$29b4o$30b2o$25bo4b2o$29b4o$29b4o$25bo4b2o4bo$5b3obo16b2o38b
2obo$5b4o16b4o36b4o$5b4o16b4o36b4o$5b3o16bob2o36b6o$b4o3bob2o5bo19bo4b
2o18b2obo2bob2obo$b4o4b4o28b4o16b4o4b4o$b4o4b4o28b4o16b4o4b4o$4o5b3ob
o10bo12bo4b3o17b4o4b4o$bo2bob3o8bo16b2o2b2o2b2o17bo4b2obo$5b4o24b12o20b
4o$5b4o24b12o20b4o$5b3obo6bo3bo7bo5b2o2b3ob3o20b4o$5bo3bo27bo4b2o21bo
2bo$41b4o$41b4o$25bo14b4o$37bo3$24bo5$24bo3$37bo$25bo14b4o$41b4o$41b4o
$5bo3bo27bo4b2o21bo2bo$5b3obo6bo3bo7bo5b2o2b3ob3o20b4o$5b4o24b12o20b4o
$5b4o24b12o20b4o$bo2bob3o8bo16b2o2b2o2b2o17bo4b2obo$4o5b3obo10bo12bo4b
3o17b4o4b4o$b4o4b4o28b4o16b4o4b4o$b4o4b4o28b4o16b4o4b4o$b4o3bob2o5bo19b
o4b2o18b2obo2bob2obo$5b3o16bob2o36b6o$5b4o16b4o36b4o$5b4o16b4o36b4o$5b
3obo16b2o38b2obo$25bo4b2o4bo$29b4o$29b4o$25bo4b2o$30b2o$29b4o$29b4o$30b
2o!
107 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Coexistence

Post by H. H. P. M. P. Cole »

hotcrystal0 wrote: November 24th, 2024, 9:37 pm Reviving this thread.
Fully inflated eureka becomes a P… I don’t know:

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x = 72, y = 44, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o$4o4b4o12b12o24b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b
12o24b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b12o24b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b12o24b4o4b4o$4b4o16b4o4b4o
28b4o$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o$24b12o
$24b12o$24b12o$24b12o13$24b12o$24b12o$24b12o$24b12o$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o
$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o$4b4o16b4o4b4o28b4o$4o4b4o12b12o
24b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b12o24b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b12o24b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b12o24b
4o4b4o$4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o!
P124410. The phase of this oscillator with the minimum population seems to be this:

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x = 72, y = 44, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5b2o58b2o$4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o$4b3o58b2obo$b2o6b2o26b2o6b2o13b3obo4b2o$
4o4b4o24b4o4b4o12b4o4b4o$4o4b4o24b4o4b4o12b4o4b4o$b2o4b4o26b2o6b2o14b
2o5b3o$5b2o30b2o10b2o14b2o$4b4o28b4o8b4o12b4o$4b4o28b4o8b4o12b4o$4b3o
30b2o10b2o13b3o$32bo3b3o6b2o$36b4o4b4o$36b4o4b4o$37b2obo4b2o13$37b2obo
4b2o$36b4o4b4o$36b4o4b4o$32bo3b3o6b2o$4b3o30b2o10b2o13b3o$4b4o28b4o8b
4o12b4o$4b4o28b4o8b4o12b4o$5b2o30b2o10b2o14b2o$b2o4b4o26b2o6b2o14b2o5b
3o$4o4b4o24b4o4b4o12b4o4b4o$4o4b4o24b4o4b4o12b4o4b4o$b2o6b2o26b2o6b2o
13b3obo4b2o$4b3o58b2obo$4b4o56b4o$4b4o56b4o$5b2o58b2o!
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Re: Coexistence

Post by hotcrystal0 »

Inflated unix becomes a P6:

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x = 36, y = 36, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4b4o8b4o$4b4o8b4o$4b4o8b4o$4b4o8b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$4o16b4o$4o
16b4o$4o16b4o$4o16b4o$8o8b4o4b4o$8o8b4o4b4o$8o8b4o4b4o$8o8b4o4b4o$20b
4o4b8o$20b4o4b8o$20b4o4b8o$20b4o4b8o9$20b4o8b4o$20b4o8b4o$20b4o8b4o$20b
4o8b4o$20b8o$20b8o$20b8o$20b8o!
Edit: inflated 22P36 becomes a P108:

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x = 72, y = 56, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4o$4o$4o$4o$12o$12o$12o$12o$12b4o$12b4o$12b4o$12b4o$8b8o$8b8o$8b8o$8b
8o$48b8o$48b8o$48b8o$48b8o$40b4o8b4o$40b4o8b4o$40b4o8b4o$40b4o8b4o$44b
12o$44b12o$44b12o$44b12o$16b12o$16b12o$16b12o$16b12o$16b4o8b4o$16b4o8b
4o$16b4o8b4o$16b4o8b4o$16b8o$16b8o$16b8o$16b8o$56b8o$56b8o$56b8o$56b8o
$56b4o$56b4o$56b4o$56b4o$60b12o$60b12o$60b12o$60b12o$68b4o$68b4o$68b4o
$68b4o!
Edit 2: Inflated mold also becomes a P… I don’t know. I’ve ran Identify in it for over a million generations and still nothing. Here it is, in case you want to run it for longer than that:

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#C Edit 3: Copied wrong RLE. Here is correct RLE.
#R R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
12b8o$12b8o$12b8o$12b8o$8b12o$8b12o$8b12o$8b12o$4b4o4b8o$4b4o4b8o$4b4o
4b8o$4b4o4b8o$4o4b4o$4o4b4o$4o4b4o$4o4b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o
$4b8o$4b8o$4b8o$4b8o!
Edit 3: It’s a P4106684. HHPMP Cole told me that in a private message:
H. H. P. M. P. Cole wrote:November 29th, 2024, 9:27 pm The mold is a P4106684. In future, use oscar to find the periods of high-period oscillators.

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x = 25, y = 25, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
16bo$12b3ob3obo2bo$12b8o$12b8o$8bo2bob2o2b2obo$4bo2b4o2b2o2b2o$8b12o$
8b12o$4bo3b3o2b2o2b2o4bo$4b3o4bob3ob3o3b2o$4b4o4b8o$4b4o4b8o$3b6o2bob
2o2b2obo$3o4bob3o7bo4bo$4o4b4o$4o4b4o$b4o2b4o12bo$3obo3bo3b3obo2bo$4o
8b4o$4o8b4o$b2o4bo3bob2o$4b8o3bo$4b8o$4b8o$4b3o2b3o!
107 days until New York's age verification law goes into effect.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Coexistence

Post by LWSSONHWSSONLWSS »

Is the thread dead already?
I'm trying to revive it.
Folded clock:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5b2obo2bo$4b4o$4b4o$5b2obo2bo$o2b5o5b2o$4b4o4b4o$4b4o4b4o$o2b5o5b2o$b
2o5b5o2bo$4o4b4o$4o4b4o$b2o5b5o2bo$4bo2bob2o$8b4o$8b4o$4bo2bob2o!
A folded pattern is the two states merged together.
The "clock" is still p2.
EDIT: Inflated fox folds itself:

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x = 28, y = 28, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$8b4o8b4o$8b4o8b4o$8b4o
8b4o$8b4o8b4o$8o$8o$8o$8o$16b4o4b4o$16b4o4b4o$16b4o4b4o$16b4o4b4o$8b4o
4b4o4b4o$8b4o4b4o4b4o$8b4o4b4o4b4o$8b4o4b4o4b4o$24b4o$24b4o$24b4o$24b
4o!
EDIT2: Was this already found?

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x = 13, y = 13, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4b3o$bo4b2o$bo5bo$4b4o$8b3o$5bo3bobo$5bo3bob2o$8b4o$3ob3ob3o$bobobobo
3bo$bobobob2o2bo$12o$3bo!
EDIT3: Was this type of folding already known?

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x = 12, y = 10, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5b2o$4b4o3$5b2o$4b4o$12o$b2o2b2o2b2o$5b2o$4b4o!
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Re: Coexistence

Post by get_Snacked »

folded toad:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4b4ob2o$4b8o$4b8o$4b4ob2o$b2obo2b2o2bo$4o$4o$b2obo2b2o2bo$4bo2b2o2bob
2o$12b4o$12b4o$4bo2b2o2bob2o$5b2ob4o$4b8o$4b8o$5b2ob4o!
in general, it seems like any p2 oscillator can be folded with at most 3 media: one medium as the stator, the second as the cells that are only alive in one phase, and the third as the cells that are only alive in the other phase, if any.
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Re: Coexistence

Post by breaker's glider gun »

this media (and any addition) follows b3/s23:

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4b2o2b2o$4b2o2b2o3$2o$2o3$12b2o$12b2o3$4b2o2b2o$4b2o2b2o!
The
LWSSONHWSSONLWSS wrote:
EDIT3: Was this type of folding already known?

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x = 12, y = 10, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5b2o$4b4o3$5b2o$4b4o$12o$b2o2b2o2b2o$5b2o$4b4o!
this is an interesting variant, because it uses two unstable media with one surviving cell in the center. at firs I thought it was as simple as the stacking of these:

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x = 37, y = 9, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5bo30bo4$o3b2o2bo7bo3bo3bo11bo4$5bo30bo!
but that does seem to be a novel "folding."
:?: :?: . . . :!:
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Re: Coexistence

Post by LWSSONHWSSONLWSS »

breaker's glider gun wrote: January 22nd, 2025, 6:46 pm this is an interesting variant, because it uses two unstable media with one surviving cell in the center. at firs I thought it was as simple as the stacking of these:

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-rle snip-
but that does seem to be a novel "folding."
That's just the basic folding, with the two dots on the sides and the one stable dot.
EDIT: is this known?

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
3bob2o$4b3o$5b3o$5b2o$3bo3bob2o$8b3o$9b3o$9b3o$b2o2b3ob2o$3ob3ob3o$b3o
b3ob3o$b2o2b2o2b2o!
EDIT2: Folded phoenix 1

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
12bo2bob2o$16b4o$16b4o$12bo2bob2o$9b2obo2bob2obo2bo$8b4o4b4o$8b4o4b4o
$9b2obo2bob2obo2bo$4bo2bo17b2o$24b4o$24b4o$4bo2bo17b2o$b2o2b2o17bo2b2o
2bo$8o$8o$b2o2b2o17bo2b2o2bo$o2b2o2bo17b2o2b2o$24b8o$24b8o$o2b2o2bo17b
2o2b2o$5b2o17bo2bo$4b4o$4b4o$5b2o17bo2bo$8bo2bob2obo2bob2o$12b4o4b4o$
12b4o4b4o$8bo2bob2obo2bob2o$13b2obo2bo$12b4o$12b4o$13b2obo2bo!
EDIT3: Is this also known?

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x = 15, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
9b2o$8bobo$8bo$7b2o$o10bob2o$12bobo$12bo$6bo4b2o$5b2o2b2o2b2o$4bobobo
bobobo$4bo3bo3bo$3b2o2b2o2b2o!
EDIT4: More cursed stuff

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x = 59, y = 17, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
47bo3bobo$46b8o$46bo3bo$28bo18b7o$24bo2b2o13b2o4b2o2bo2bobo$4b2obob2o
14b2o2b2o11b4o8b4o$4b3ob3o12b2ob3obo15bo6b2o$2bo20bo3bobo13b4o7b4o$b6o
15b4ob2o15bo2bobobo2bob3o$5bo3b2o14b2o2b3o14b8o$3b8o12b2ob3obo19bo$2o
b3obo15b2ob2o19b8o$b3ob3o40bo3b3o$4bo2bo$3bo$b5obo$4bo!
EDIT5: Uhhh...

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5b3obobo$4bobobob2o$4b2ob3obo$4bobob4o$b4o3bo3b4o$ob2o8bobo$2obo8b2ob
o$obo2bo5b4o$5bobo5bobo$4bobo5bob2o$4b2ob2o4bobo$4b3o4b4o$9b3o$8bob2o
$9bobo$8b3o!
EDIT6: Uhhh... 2.0

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x = 32, y = 48, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4b8o8b8o$4b8o8b8o$5b2o2b2o10b2o2b2o$4b8o8b8o$12b8o$12b8o$13b2o2b2o$12b
8o$12b8o$12b8o$13b2o2b2o$12b8o$4o4b4o8b4o4b4o$4o4b4o8b4o4b4o$b2o6b2o10b
2o6b2o$4o4b4o8b4o4b4o$4o24b4o$4o24b4o$b2o26b2o$4o24b4o5$4o24b4o$4o24b
4o$b2o26b2o$4o24b4o$4b8o8b8o$4b8o8b8o$5b2o2b2o10b2o2b2o$4b8o8b8o$8b16o
$8b16o$9b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$8b16o5$12b8o$12b8o$13b2o2b2o$12b8o$12b8o$12b8o
$13b2o2b2o$12b8o!
EDIT7: Uhhh... 3.0

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x = 36, y = 36, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
b2ob4o4b3o2b3ob2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$8o4b24o$8o4b24o$b2o2b2o6b2o2b2o2b2ob3o2b
2o2b2o$b2ob3obo4b2o2b2o2b3ob3ob3ob3o$8o4b24o$8o4b24o$b2o2b2o6b2o2b3ob
2o2b2o2b2o2b3o$b2ob3o16bo7bo$8o$8o$b3ob2o$b2ob3obo20b2o2b3o$8o20b8o$8o
20b8o$b2o2b2o22b2o2b2o$3o2b3o21b2o2b2o$8o20b8o$8o20b8o$b2o2b2o21b3o2b
3o$b2o2b2o22b2o2b2o$8o20b8o$8o20b8o$3o2b2o20bob3ob2o$29b2ob3o$28b8o$28b
8o$4bo7bo16b3ob2o$3o2b2o2b2o2b2ob3o2b2o6b2o2b2o$24o4b8o$24o4b8o$3ob3o
b3ob3o2b2o2b2o4bob3ob2o$b2o2b2o2b3ob2o2b2o2b2o6b2o2b2o$24o4b8o$24o4b8o
$b2o2b2o2b2o2b2ob3o2b3o4b4ob2o!
EDIT8: Uhhh... 4.0

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x = 9, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5bo4$3bobobo$5ob3o$2bo3b2o$3b2o$3bob4o$2b2o2b2o$2bobobo$5b2o!
EDIT9: Folding
Block + 2 blinkers

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
8o$o2b2ob2o$o2b3obo$8o$8o$2ob5obo$ob6o2bo$8o2$6bo$5bo!
EDIT10: Uhhh... 5.0

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
6bo$b2ob3o$3b2o2b2o$ob3ob2o$2ob3obo$3ob3o$bob3ob3o$ob3ob2o$2ob3obo$3b
o!
EDIT11: Uhhh... 6.0

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x = 18, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
7bo2$6bo2b2o$bobobob3o$3o2b2o2b2o4bo$bob2o2b2o2b2o$3b3ob2o2b3o$3b3o3b
ob3o$5b2o2b2o2b2obo$7b2o2b2o2b3o$7b3ob2o2b2o$7b2o!
EDIT12: Is this also known?

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4bob2o$4b3o$5b3o$4b2obo$8bob2o$8b3o$9b3o$8b2obo$ob3ob3ob2o$3ob3ob3o$b
3ob3ob3o$2ob3ob3obo!
EDIT13: Uhhh… 7.0

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 x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4b2o4b2o$4b2obo2bo$7b2o$6b4o$2b2o4b4o$2bo4b4o$o7bo2bo$2o6b4o$2o2b8o$2o
2b3ob3o$bob2o2b2o2bo$2b10o!
EDIT14: Four folded pinwheels

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x = 48, y = 48, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
24b8o$24b8o$24b8o$24b8o$24b8o$24b8o$24b8o$24b8o5$16b16o$16b16o$16b16o
$16b16o$8o4b4o16b4o$8o4b4o16b4o$8o4b4o8b4o4b4o$8o4b4o8b4o4b4o$8o4b4o2b
2o4b2o6b4o$8o4b4o2b2o4b2o6b4o$8o4b8o12b4o$8o4b8o12b4o$12b4o10b4o2b4o4b
8o$12b4o10b4o2b4o4b8o$12b4o4b4o8b4o4b8o$12b4o4b4o8b4o4b8o$12b4o4b4o8b
4o4b8o$12b4o4b4o8b4o4b8o$12b4o16b4o4b8o$12b4o16b4o4b8o$16b16o$16b16o$
16b16o$16b16o5$16b8o$16b8o$16b8o$16b8o$16b8o$16b8o$16b8o$16b8o!
EDIT15: Something more cursed than all the previous ones

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x = 37, y = 28, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
b3o2b3o$b8o$b8o$2b2o2b2o$2b2o9b4o$b4o8b4o$b4o8b4o$6o2bo5b2o$4bob2o2b2o
2b2o13b3o2b3o$5b12o12b8o$5b12o12b8o$6b2o2b2o2b3o12b3o2b2o$26b3o5b2o$25b
4o4b4o$25b4o4b4o$24bob2o5b3o$9bo3b3o2b2o2b2o2b2o$13b16o$13b16o$12bob2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o4bo$9b3obo16b2obo$9b4o16b4o$9b4o16b4o$10b2o18b2o$10b2o2b3o
8b3o2b2o$9b8o8b8o$9b8o8b8o$9b3o2b3o8b3o2b3o!
EDIT16: Very cursed

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x = 10, y = 8, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
2bob2o$b3ob3o$4ob4o$bo3bo2bo$o2bobo3bo$4ob4o$b3ob3o$2obobo!
EDIT17: Ch@ ch@
What is the period?

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x = 25, y = 34, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
9bo$14b2o$13b4o$13b4o$13b3o$6b6obo6bo$5b8o$5b8o$6b2o2b2o$bo2bo3bo3b9o
$13b8o$13b8o$14b6o$2b3ob2o2b2obo3bo2bo3bo$b12o$b12o$2b2ob3o2b2o$o3bo4b
o2b4ob3o2b2o$13b12o$13b12o$5bo6bob2o2b2o2b2o$4bob2o2b4o2bo4bo$5b8o$5b
8o$6b2o2b2obo10bo$8bo3bob2o2b4o$13b8o$13b8o$8bo5b7o$10b2o9bo$9b4o$9b4o
$10b2o$13bo!
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EDIT18: Puls@r

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x = 60, y = 60, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
17b2o22b2o$16b4o20b4o$16b4o20b4o$17b2o22b2o$12bo4b2o22b2o4bo$16b4o20b
4o$16b4o20b4o$12bo4b2o22b2o4bo$17b2o2b2o14b2o2b2o$16b8o12b8o$16b8o12b
8o$17b2o2b2o14b2o2b2o$4bo2bo44bo2bo4$b2o2b2o2b2o10b2o2b2o6b2o2b2o10b2o
2b2o2b2o$12o8b8o4b8o8b12o$12o8b8o4b8o8b12o$b2o2b2o2b2o10b2o2b2o6b2o2b
2o10b2o2b2o2b2o$9b2o6b2o6b2o6b2o6b2o6b2o$8b4o4b4o4b4o4b4o4b4o4b4o$8b4o
4b4o4b4o4b4o4b4o4b4o$9b2o6b2o4bob3o4b3obo4b2o6b2o$11bo5b2o2b2o14b2o2b
2o5bo$16b8o12b8o$16b8o12b8o$17b2o2b3o3bo4bo3b3o2b2o5$17b2o2b3o3bo4bo3b
3o2b2o$16b8o12b8o$16b8o12b8o$11bo5b2o2b2o14b2o2b2o5bo$9b2o6b2o4bob3o4b
3obo4b2o6b2o$8b4o4b4o4b4o4b4o4b4o4b4o$8b4o4b4o4b4o4b4o4b4o4b4o$9b2o6b
2o6b2o6b2o6b2o6b2o$b2o2b2o2b2o10b2o2b2o6b2o2b2o10b2o2b2o2b2o$12o8b8o4b
8o8b12o$12o8b8o4b8o8b12o$b2o2b2o2b2o10b2o2b2o6b2o2b2o10b2o2b2o2b2o4$4b
o2bo44bo2bo$17b2o2b2o14b2o2b2o$16b8o12b8o$16b8o12b8o$17b2o2b2o14b2o2b
2o$12bo4b2o22b2o4bo$16b4o20b4o$16b4o20b4o$12bo4b2o22b2o4bo$17b2o22b2o
$16b4o20b4o$16b4o20b4o$17b2o22b2o!
EDIT19: Bubble glider

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x = 13, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
6b2o$5b2obo$5b4o$6b2o$bo6bob2o$9b2obo$9b4o$10b2o$ob2o2b2o2b2o$b2ob3ob
3obo$b12o$2b2o2b3ob2o!
EDIT20: :shock:

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5bo$4b2ob2o$4bobo$3bobobo$4bob3ob2o$obo2b3ob2obo$bo2b3ob3o$ob9o$4bob4o
bo$4b2ob3o$4bob3obo$5bo3bo$5bo$9bo$8bobo$9bo!
EDIT21: :shock: :shock:

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 x = 16, y = 16, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5bo$5b2o$5b2o$5bo2b4o$bo2bo2b3obo$5o2b2o2bob2o$5o2b2o2bob2o$bo2bobo5b
3o$o2bobo7bobo$b2obo2b2o2b5o$b2obo2b2o2b5o$3b4o2bo2bob2o$4bob4obo$9b2o
$9b2o$8bobo!
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Re: Coexistence

Post by breaker's glider gun »

LWSSONHWSSONLWSS wrote: January 23rd, 2025, 9:37 am EDIT11: Uhhh... 6.0

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x = 18, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
7bo2$6bo2b2o$bobobob3o$3o2b2o2b2o4bo$bob2o2b2o2b2o$3b3ob2o2b3o$3b3o3b
ob3o$5b2o2b2o2b2obo$7b2o2b2o2b3o$7b3ob2o2b2o$7b2o!
EDIT17: Ch@ ch@
What is the period?

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x = 25, y = 34, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
9bo$14b2o$13b4o$13b4o$13b3o$6b6obo6bo$5b8o$5b8o$6b2o2b2o$bo2bo3bo3b9o
$13b8o$13b8o$14b6o$2b3ob2o2b2obo3bo2bo3bo$b12o$b12o$2b2ob3o2b2o$o3bo4b
o2b4ob3o2b2o$13b12o$13b12o$5bo6bob2o2b2o2b2o$4bob2o2b4o2bo4bo$5b8o$5b
8o$6b2o2b2obo10bo$8bo3bob2o2b4o$13b8o$13b8o$8bo5b7o$10b2o9bo$9b4o$9b4o
$10b2o$13bo!
EDIT20: :shock:

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5bo$4b2ob2o$4bobo$3bobobo$4bob3ob2o$obo2b3ob2obo$bo2b3ob3o$ob9o$4bob4o
bo$4b2ob3o$4bob3obo$5bo3bo$5bo$9bo$8bobo$9bo!
EDIT21: :shock: :shock:

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 x = 16, y = 16, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5bo$5b2o$5b2o$5bo2b4o$bo2bo2b3obo$5o2b2o2bob2o$5o2b2o2bob2o$bo2bobo5b
3o$o2bobo7bobo$b2obo2b2o2b5o$b2obo2b2o2b5o$3b4o2bo2bob2o$4bob4obo$9b2o
$9b2o$8bobo!
A lot of those are just strangely shaped toads - you just have to look at the overall structure.
As for the period of the cursed Cha cha, I have an oscar.lua on it at 3M and counting.
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Re: Coexistence

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Uhh, I don't know if this glider "reflector" can been used the second time:

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
24b8o$24b8o$24b8o$24b8o$8o12b4o4b4o$8o12b4o4b4o$8o12b4o4b4o$8o12b4o4b
4o$4o16b4o$4o16b4o$4o16b4o$4o16b4o$4b12o4b4o$4b12o4b4o$4b12o4b4o$4b12o
4b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$12b4o18bo$12b4o17bo$12b4o17b3o$12b4o$12b
8o$12b8o$12b8o$12b8o!
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Re: Coexistence

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b-engine wrote: September 9th, 2025, 6:17 pm Uhh, I don't know if this glider "reflector" can been used the second time:

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
24b8o$24b8o$24b8o$24b8o$8o12b4o4b4o$8o12b4o4b4o$8o12b4o4b4o$8o12b4o4b
4o$4o16b4o$4o16b4o$4o16b4o$4o16b4o$4b12o4b4o$4b12o4b4o$4b12o4b4o$4b12o
4b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$12b4o18bo$12b4o17bo$12b4o17b3o$12b4o$12b
8o$12b8o$12b8o$12b8o!
Can too!
...just not the third time

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x = 53, y = 46, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
2bo$obo$b2o15$48bo$45b8o$45b8o$45b8o$45b3ob3o$21b8o12b4o4b4o$21b8o12b
4o4b4o$21b8o12b4o4b4o$21b3ob3o12b4o5b4o$21b4o16b4o$21b4o16b4o$21b4o16b
4o$21b3o8bo8b3o$25b12o4b4o$25b12o4b4o$25b12o4b4o$25b3ob3ob3o5b4o$37b4o
$37b4o$37b4o$37b3o$33b4o$33b4o$33b4o$32b4o$33b8o$33b8o$33b8o$33b3ob4o
!
Also, that "Ch@ ch@" is at ~45m and still no sign of periodicity...

{Edit}: oh wait it's just a few lanes away:

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x = 48, y = 29, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
28bo$25b8o$25b8o$25b8o$4bo20b3ob3o$b8o12b4o4b4o$b8o12b4o4b4o$b8o12b4o
4b4o$4ob3o12b4o5b4o$b4o16b4o22bo$b4o16b4o20b2o$b4o16b4o21b2o$b3o8bo8b
3o$5b12o4b4o$5b12o4b4o$5b12o4b4o$5b3ob3ob3o5b4o$17b4o$17b4o$17b4o$17b
3o$13b4o$13b4o$13b4o$12b4o$13b8o$13b8o$13b8o$13b3ob4o!
{and it even works another time in the same lane...}

{and again!}

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x = 43, y = 43, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
obo$b2o$bo12$37bo4bo$35b8o$35b8o$34b9o$17bo17b2o2b2o$11b8o12b4o4b4o$11b
8o12b4o4b4o$11b3ob4o12b4o3b5o$10b7obo7bo4b2o5b3o$11b4o16b4o$11b4o16b4o
$11b3o17b3o4bo$10b3obo2bo4bo3bo4b2o$15b12o4b4o$15b12o4b4o$14b4ob3ob3o
5b3o$15b2o2b2o2b3o3b4o$27b4o$27b4o$26b5o$22bo3b4o3bo$23b4o$23b4o$23b3o
8bo$23b3o3bo$23b8o$23b8o$23b8o$23b2o2b2o!
Ch@ ch@ stabalizes to:

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x = 24, y = 32, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
9b2o4bo$8b4o$8b4o$9b2o$9b2o6b2o$8b4o4b4o$8b4o4b4o$4bo4b2obo4b2o$b2o8bo
b2o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$b2o10b2o$o4b2o2b2o10b2o$4b8o8b4o$4b8o8b4o$o4b2o2b3o
9b2o$b2o9b3o2b2o4bo$4o8b8o$4o8b8o$b2o9b3o2b2o4bo$9b3o9b2o$8b4o8b4o$8b
4o8b4o$9b2o10b2o$5b2o5b3o$4b4o4b4o$4b4o4b4o$5b2o5b3o4bo$11bob2o$12b4o$
12b4o$8bo2bob2o!
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Re: Coexistence

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hotcrystal0 wrote: August 19th, 2022, 9:44 am Class 1:
These media stably emulate a rule, without any vacuum decay, unless acted on by an external force.
altogether they emulate a 2^16 state rule
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Re: Coexistence

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This becomes some sort of P2:

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x = 40, y = 36, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4o$4o$4o$4o$4o4b4o$4o4b4o$4o4b4o$4o4b4o$4b4o4b4o$4b4o4b4o$4b4o4b4o$4b
4o4b4o$4b4o8b4o$4b4o8b4o$4b4o8b4o$4b4o8b4o$4b4o4b4o$4b4o4b4o$4b4o4b4o
$4b4o4b4o$4o4b4o12b8o$4o4b4o12b8o$4o4b4o12b8o$4o4b4o12b8o$4o20b4o4b4o
$4o20b4o4b4o$4o20b4o4b4o$4o20b4o4b4o$32b4o$32b4o$32b4o$32b4o$32b8o$32b
8o$32b8o$32b8o!
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Coexistence

Post by eRroR_6o6 »

I discovered two oscillators today. (Well, actually, it was yesterday, but I waited until today to share it.)

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x = 21, y = 9, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5bo2$12bo3bo3bo$4b3o9bobo$o3b3obo7b3o$6bo3$5bo!
When I identified the right oscillator, it had a period of 42. When I ran the above pattern for 42 generations, it repeated. Normal.

When I identified the left oscillator, it had a period of 146. However, when I ran the pattern above for 146 generations, I didn't get the original pattern. Huh?

It turns out that I placed the oscillators in such a way that the p42 rephased the p146 without destroying it, making a p252.
I find this quite an interesting phenomenon, and I wonder if it can happen with other oscillators.

(Oh yeah, and I found these oscillators from an interaction between two offset fleet traffic lights.)

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x = 34, y = 12, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5b3o19b3o$4bo2bo18bo2bo$4bo2bo18bo2bo$4b3o19b3o$b3ob3ob3o11b3ob3ob3o$o
2b2o2b2o2bo10bo2b2o2b2o2bo$o2b2o2b2o2bo10bo2b2o2b2o2bo$3ob3ob3o11b3ob
3ob3o$5b3o19b3o$4bo2bo18bo2bo$4bo2bo18bo2bo$4b3o19b3o!

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x = 19, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
13b3o$12b4o$11b2obobo$13bobo$15bo12$10b2o$bobo7bobo$o7b2o3b2o$o3bo2b3o
3bo$o6b4obo$o2bo7bo$3o12bobo$18bo$14bo3bo$14bo3bo$18bo$9bo5bo2bo$8b3o
5b3o2$10bo$2bobo4b2o$5bo2b3o$5bo2b3o$2bo2bo2b2obo$3b3o3b3o$10bo!
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Re: Coexistence

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Here’s a very messy-looking glider:

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x = 15, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
2b3o2b2o2bo$3b2o2b2ob3o$3bob3ob3ob2o$5b2o2b2o3bo$5bo2b2ob2o$11b2o$o10b
ob2o$7bobo3b2o$2bob2obobo$7b2o$7bob2o$5bo4bo!
Edit: Unrelated, but the fleet medium is interesting. It’s fine with S0, but it can’t stand S7:

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x = 69, y = 26, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
33b3o$32bo2bo$32bo2bo$32b3o11$b3ob3ob3o46b3ob3ob3o$o2b2o2b2o2bo45bo2b
2o2b2o2bo$o2b2o2b2o2bo45bo2b2o2b2o2bo$3ob3ob3o46b3ob3ob3o$b3o5b3o46b3o
5b3o$o2bo4bo2bo45bo2bo4bo2bo$o2bo4bo2bo45bo2bo4bo2bo$3o5b3o46b3o5b3o$
b3ob3o50b3o5b3o$o2b2o2bo49bo2bo4bo2bo$o2b2o2bo49bo2bo4bo2bo$3ob3o50b3o
5b3o!
Edit 2: Weird P22 from a LWSS decaying:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5bo$5bo$5bo2$2bob2obo$obo2b2o3bo$2b2obo$4b2o$5bo$5bo$5bo!

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x = 20, y = 16, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
3o9b3o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$16b3o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$3o13b3o$4o12b4o$4o
12b4o$4o12b4o$4b3ob3ob3ob3o$4b16o$4b16o$4b16o!
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Re: Coexistence

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Hmm... This rule does not support titan LWSS. I(with every pixel is 4x4 cells) shattered up at generation 3.

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#C Initial pattern
x = 20, y = 16, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$4o12b4o$4o12b4o$4o
12b4o$4o12b4o$4b16o$4b16o$4b16o$4b16o!

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#C At generation 3
x = 24, y = 20, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4bo2b9o$8b8o$8b8o$4bo2b9o$3b17o$4b16o$4b16o$o2b17o$o2bob2ob4o4b8o$4b8o
4b8o$4b8o4b8o$o2bob2ob4o4b8o$12b8o$12b8o$12b8o$12b8o$o2bo3$o2bo!
This is LittleLWSS.

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
o2bo$4bo$o3bo$b4o!

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3-k7/S23-ck4q5y
o2bo$4bo$o3bo$b4o!

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3-y7e/S2-n3-cey4ei
o2bo$4bo$o3bo$b4o!
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Re: Coexistence

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LittleLWSS wrote: September 14th, 2025, 5:05 am Hmm... This rule does not support titan LWSS. I(with every pixel is 4x4 cells) shattered up at generation 3.

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