No. There's no point continuing to a later STOP generation if the pattern is already dead.unname4798 wrote: August 25th, 2023, 10:15 am Should patterns that die out not pause playback themselves if there is a STOP command scheduled for execution after the pattern dies?
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I don't see changes.rowett wrote: August 25th, 2023, 1:30 pmAdded, thanks.
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x = 3, y = 6, rule = B01c2c35i/S23Extended bo$bo$3o$obo$obo$o!
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Thanks!dvgrn wrote: August 25th, 2023, 1:38 pmOpen LifeViewer and go to Help > Info. Do you see build 1036? If it's a smaller number, you'll need to hard-refresh your browser to reload the LifeViewer plugin. Ctrl+Shift+R should do this in Chrome, for example.
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Why?
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#i've never described anything as 'aggressively nonexplosive' before now
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Also, there seems to be some sort of thing that sometimes makes patterns asymmetric and generally behave strangely.MEisSCAMMER wrote: August 25th, 2023, 4:05 pm As an aside: how does XWSSHaven work? An obo! spark will die out on the first generation, but then it comes back in gen 2?!Code: Select all
x=0, y=0, rule=XWSSHaven obo!
Code: Select all
x = 154, y = 20, rule = SMOSMOSMOSMOS_Rule
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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
Fixed, thanks for reporting!b3s23love wrote: August 26th, 2023, 5:43 am There seems to be an extremely bizarre bug: sometimes there are „phantom cells” that blink or survive when they shouldn’t.
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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
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x = 14, y = 24, rule = B25/S34HInvestigator
.A2.A$.5A$5.4A$7.3A$.A.A3.3A$.A3.3A2.A$2A3.A.A2.A$2.A4.A.A$3.A4.A$8.A
$.A3.A$3.2A7.A$3.4A4.A.A$6.A.2A2.A$5.A4.A$3.2A4.A$6.A$4.2A3.A$7.A$9.A
2$7.A$7.A$6.A!Code: Select all
x = 14, y = 24, rule = B25/S34H
bo2bo$b5o$5b4o$7b3o$bobo3b3o$bo3b3o2bo$2o3bobo2bo$2bo4bobo$3bo4bo$8bo$bo3bo$
3b2o7bo$3b4o4bobo$6bob2o2bo$5bo4bo$3b2o4bo$6bo$4b2o3bo$7bo$9bo2$7bo$7bo$6bo!Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
Fixed, thanks!
Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
And what a truly fantastic addition!rowett wrote: August 24th, 2023, 8:28 amLifeViewer now has experimental support for [R]Extended (which is a native implementation of the StateInvestigator rule family).
One issue I've found: in an empty universe, drawing cells such as state 4 or state 6 and pressing play can cause them to pulsate in and out of existence with period 2.
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x = 1, y = 1, rule = B3/S23Investigator
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23Investigator
3A$AHA$3A!Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B0123478/S01234678Investigator
3A$ACA$3A!And since StateInvestigator is an alias for LifeExtended, it might be a good idea to have it (as well as any others that apply) listed in Help > Aliases.
Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
Fixed, thanks!muzik wrote: August 26th, 2023, 12:15 pm One issue I've found: in an empty universe, drawing cells such as state 4 or state 6 and pressing play can cause them to pulsate in and out of existence with period 2.
No plans for this (it's consistent with [R]Super and [R]History).muzik wrote: August 26th, 2023, 12:15 pm Also, for B0/Smax rules, some cells should have their behaviour switched, since we assume the initial state of the universe to be full of live cells instead of dead cells.
Yes.muzik wrote: August 26th, 2023, 12:15 pm I assume [R]Extended not currently being supported for triangular rules is for much the same reason that [R]History and [R]Super don't support triangular grids?
I believe it's just StateInvestigator but if I've missed other potential aliases please let me know. It's not actually handled as an alias for some exciting technical reasons so won't appear in the alias list.muzik wrote: August 26th, 2023, 12:15 pm And since StateInvestigator is an alias for LifeExtended, it might be a good idea to have it (as well as any others that apply) listed in Help > Aliases.
Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
There's a handful of older rule tables which exist to implement cell states which StateInvestigator would later include, and I think it would be useful for these to be converted to the [R]Extended standard for consistency and any possible performance improvements. Note that the state numbers above 0 and 1 aren't consistent, so conversion between states will need to occur.rowett wrote: August 26th, 2023, 1:50 pmI believe it's just StateInvestigator but if I've missed other potential aliases please let me know. It's not actually handled as an alias for some exciting technical reasons so won't appear in the alias list.muzik wrote: August 26th, 2023, 12:15 pm And since StateInvestigator is an alias for LifeExtended, it might be a good idea to have it (as well as any others that apply) listed in Help > Aliases.
ExtendedLife, ExtendedTLife:
- 2 should become [R]Extended state 9
- 3 should become [R]Extended state 3
- 4 should become [R]Extended state 14
- 5 should remain [R]Extended state 5
- 6 should become [R]Extended state 4
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x = 46, y = 4, rule = extendedlife
23.2A$24.A12.A.2A4.F$B21.C8.D7.EA4.F$38.A6.F!Code: Select all
x = 59, y = 13, rule = ExtendedLife_7_mcols
23.2A$24.A12.A.2A4.F5.G$B21.C8.D7.EA4.F5.G$38.A6.F5.G7$52.A4.A2$51.F.
F2.G.G!- 2 should become [R]Extended state 8
- 3 should become [R]Extended state 3
- 4 should become [R]Extended state 14
- 5 should remain [R]Extended state 5
- 6 should become [R]Extended state 4
- 7 should become [R]Extended state 9
- 8 should become [R]Extended state 2
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x = 113, y = 4, rule = extendedlifefancy
60.F$B29.2AC.C7.D7.2E8.F26.G24.H$30.A5.A11.AE10.F49.2A$35.A12.2A60.2A
!Unrelated bug: something seems to be going wrong for period maps in higher range rules resulting in unwanted truncation. The mod also ends up wrong as well (4 instead of 2) Both of these issues fix themselves if you make a selection and then identify again, making it seem like this is due to certain chunks or whatever they're called not being loaded during identification (such that making a selection would force load them).
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4b4o$4b4o$4b4o$4b4o$8b4o$8b4o$8b4o$8b4o$12o$12o$12o$12o!Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
I'd prefer it if the patterns were updated rather than pollute LifeViewer with lots of old rule conversion code.muzik wrote: August 26th, 2023, 2:23 pm There's a handful of older rule tables which exist to implement cell states which StateInvestigator would later include, and I think it would be useful for these to be converted to the [R]Extended standard for consistency and any possible performance improvements.
Fixed, thanks!muzik wrote: August 26th, 2023, 2:23 pm Unrelated bug: something seems to be going wrong for period maps in higher range rules resulting in unwanted truncation.
Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
Perhaps for the last two. However, Extended Life has a reasonably long, historically notable thread dedicated to it, and also is one of the rules distributed by the Golly Rule Table Repository, so I'm not sure how feasible it would be to mass edit old posts to update them. Maybe a note should be attached to the Rule Table Repository to announce that ExtendedLife is deprecated and use of [R]Extended is recommended instead?rowett wrote: August 26th, 2023, 2:39 pmI'd prefer it if the patterns were updated rather than polute LifeViewer with lots of old rule conversion code.muzik wrote: August 26th, 2023, 2:23 pm There's a handful of older rule tables which exist to implement cell states which StateInvestigator would later include, and I think it would be useful for these to be converted to the [R]Extended standard for consistency and any possible performance improvements.
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Here's another bug I found: by deleting all of these cells by clearing a selection or drawing state 0 over them or probably other methods as well, the Alive cells counter at the bottom right stays at 4 - we'd expect it to go to 0. Cells that are drawn and then deleted are added and deducted from the counter as expected. (I suppose this could bring up the debate of whether states 2 and above should count towards the alive total or not - do you think they should, or should this be changed?)
In the 0 cell state, we get a lot of the bugginess that came with similar situations from earlier: Select All creates a 1x1 box at the origin, playback pauses at T=1, and so on.
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AB$.BA!
[[ SHOWGENSTATS ]]Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
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x = 15, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
2ob2o3bo$bobo2bobo$bo3b2o2bo$2bo2bobobo$2b3o2b3o$11bobo$14bo$14bo$11b
o2bo$12b3o!
[[ COLOR alive 0 0 0 ]]
[[ COLOR dead 255 255 255 ]]Code: Select all
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
3bobo2b4ob2obob2o$b2o4b2o2b4o2b3o$b2o3b4obo5bo$8bo8b3o$bobo3b5o2b3ob2o
$3bobo2bob2o7bo$ob2o5b2obob5o$b2o2bo2b3o4b3obo$ob2o4bobo3bobob2o$3ob4o
bo3bo$b2ob4obo3bob2obo$3o4b5obo2bo$2obob2obo2bob3ob3o$2o2b3obo4b2ob2o
bo$2b4o2bo2b2ob2o$3ob3o3bob5obo$4b5o2b2obob2obo$o2b2ob2o2b2o4bobo$ob2o
3b3ob2o3bobo$ob5ob3o4b2o!
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#C I am inactive currently.
x = 5, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
obobo$2ob2o$obobo!
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2bo$bobo$2ob2o$5o!
Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
Here's an oscillator for each cell type, with an accompanying abridged name that can be used for the key to the left of the map. (The p2 cells, such as states 6 and 7, can be considered the same as the ones they switch with on period maps: we don't care about which p2 cells are on or off at a given generation in the actual oscillator so the same doesn't need to be done for special cells IMO. For the color used on the period map, pick the brighter of the two states.)
On DF (on deathforcer)
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AB$.BA!Code: Select all
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2AC$A.C!Code: Select all
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2AF$A.F!Code: Select all
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2AF$A.F!Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S23Investigator
.A3.A$A.A.A.A$3D.3D$A.A.A.A$.A3.A!Code: Select all
x = 13, y = 7, rule = B3/S23Investigator
3.E5.E$2.3A3.3A$A4.A.A4.A$A4.A.A4.A$A4.A.A4.A2$2.3A3.3A!Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 9, rule = B3/S23Investigator
4.2A$4.A$.2A.A$3.A$F$3.A$.2A.A$4.A$4.2A!Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23Investigator
2.A$.3A$2AH2A$.3A$2.A!Code: Select all
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.3A$A3.A$A.I.A$A3.A$.3A!Code: Select all
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6.A$6.A$6.A4$13J4$6.A$6.A$6.A!Code: Select all
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.A.A$A3.A$2.M.A$A2.A$.2A!Code: Select all
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.2A$.N$2A!Code: Select all
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3A$.3A$2.O$.AOA$.A.A$2.A!Code: Select all
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3.P$3.P$2.AP$P$P$P!Code: Select all
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Q$Q$Q!Code: Select all
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3.2A$3.2A$2.R$A$2A!Code: Select all
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S$S$S!Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
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x = 492, y = 588, rule = R13,C0,S5-7,B5-7,NW000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002000000000002000000000002000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002000000000001000000000002000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002000000000002000000000002
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24o$228b24o$228b24o$228b24o$228b48o$228b48o$228b48o$228b48o$228b48o$
228b48o$228b48o$228b48o$228b48o$228b48o$228b48o$228b48o$228b12o12b24o$
228b12o12b24o$228b12o12b24o$228b12o12b24o$228b12o12b24o$228b12o12b24o$
228b12o12b24o$228b12o12b24o$228b12o12b24o$228b12o12b24o$228b12o12b24o$
228b12o12b24o13$240b12o$240b12o$240b12o$240b12o$240b12o$240b12o$240b
12o$240b12o$240b12o$240b12o$240b12o$240b12o$228b24o$228b24o$228b24o$
228b24o$228b24o$228b24o$228b24o$228b24o$228b24o$228b24o$228b24o$228b
24o$228b36o$228b36o$228b36o$228b36o$228b36o$228b36o$228b36o$228b36o$
228b36o$228b36o$228b36o$228b36o$252b12o$252b12o$252b12o$252b12o$252b
12o$252b12o$252b12o$252b12o$252b12o$252b12o$252b12o$252b12o$396b24o$
396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b
24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$
396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o$396b24o73$432b12o$432b12o$432b
12o$432b12o$432b12o$432b12o$432b12o$432b12o$432b12o$432b12o$432b12o$
432b12o$420b24o$420b24o$420b24o$420b24o$420b24o$420b24o$420b24o$420b
24o$420b24o$420b24o$420b24o$420b24o$408b12o36b12o$408b12o36b12o$408b
12o36b12o$408b12o36b12o$408b12o36b12o$408b12o36b12o$408b12o36b12o$408b
12o36b12o$408b12o36b12o$408b12o36b12o$408b12o36b12o$408b12o36b12o$420b
24o24b12o$420b24o24b12o$420b24o24b12o$420b24o24b12o$420b24o24b12o$420b
24o24b12o$420b24o24b12o$420b24o24b12o$420b24o24b12o$420b24o24b12o$420b
24o24b12o$420b24o24b12o$480b12o$480b12o$480b12o$480b12o$480b12o$480b
12o$480b12o$480b12o$480b12o$480b12o$480b12o$480b12o$444b12o12b12o$444b
12o12b12o$444b12o12b12o$444b12o12b12o$444b12o12b12o$444b12o12b12o$444b
12o12b12o$444b12o12b12o$444b12o12b12o$444b12o12b12o$444b12o12b12o$444b
12o12b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b
12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$
456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b12o$456b
24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$
456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b
24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o$456b24o25$156b12o120b12o$
156b12o120b12o$156b12o120b12o$156b12o120b12o$156b12o120b12o$156b12o
120b12o$156b12o120b12o$156b12o120b12o$156b12o120b12o$156b12o120b12o$
156b12o120b12o$156b12o120b12o$144b60o60b12o12b24o132b12o$144b60o60b12o
12b24o132b12o$144b60o60b12o12b24o132b12o$144b60o60b12o12b24o132b12o$
144b60o60b12o12b24o132b12o$144b60o60b12o12b24o132b12o$144b60o60b12o12b
24o132b12o$144b60o60b12o12b24o132b12o$144b60o60b12o12b24o132b12o$144b
60o60b12o12b24o132b12o$144b60o60b12o12b24o132b12o$144b60o60b12o12b24o
132b12o$132b12o120b12o36b12o108b12o$132b12o120b12o36b12o108b12o$132b
12o120b12o36b12o108b12o$132b12o120b12o36b12o108b12o$132b12o120b12o36b
12o108b12o$132b12o120b12o36b12o108b12o$132b12o120b12o36b12o108b12o$
132b12o120b12o36b12o108b12o$132b12o120b12o36b12o108b12o$132b12o120b12o
36b12o108b12o$132b12o120b12o36b12o108b12o$132b12o120b12o36b12o108b12o$
144b24o96b36o12b12o108b24o$144b24o96b36o12b12o108b24o$144b24o96b36o12b
12o108b24o$144b24o96b36o12b12o108b24o$144b24o96b36o12b12o108b24o$144b
24o96b36o12b12o108b24o$144b24o96b36o12b12o108b24o$144b24o96b36o12b12o
108b24o$144b24o96b36o12b12o108b24o$144b24o96b36o12b12o108b24o$144b24o
96b36o12b12o108b24o$144b24o96b36o12b12o108b24o$156b24o108b24o144b12o$
156b24o108b24o144b12o$156b24o108b24o144b12o$156b24o108b24o144b12o$156b
24o108b24o144b12o$156b24o108b24o144b12o$156b24o108b24o144b12o$156b24o
108b24o144b12o$156b24o108b24o144b12o$156b24o108b24o144b12o$156b24o108b
24o144b12o$156b24o108b24o144b12o$24o156b12o252b36o$24o156b12o252b36o$
24o156b12o252b36o$24o156b12o252b36o$24o156b12o252b36o$24o156b12o252b
36o$24o156b12o252b36o$24o156b12o252b36o$24o156b12o252b36o$24o156b12o
252b36o$24o156b12o252b36o$24o156b12o252b36o$24o420b36o$24o420b36o$24o
420b36o$24o420b36o$24o420b36o$24o420b36o$24o420b36o$24o420b36o$24o420b
36o$24o420b36o$24o420b36o$24o420b36o73$96b24o$96b24o$96b24o$96b24o$96b
24o$96b24o$96b24o$96b24o$96b24o$96b24o$96b24o$96b24o$96b24o132b24o$96b
24o132b24o$96b24o132b24o$96b24o132b24o$96b24o132b24o$96b24o132b24o$96b
24o132b24o$96b24o132b24o$96b24o132b24o$96b24o132b24o$96b24o132b24o$96b
24o132b24o$228b24o24b12o$228b24o24b12o$228b24o24b12o$228b24o24b12o$
228b24o24b12o$228b24o24b12o$228b24o24b12o$228b24o24b12o$228b24o24b12o$
228b24o24b12o$228b24o24b12o$228b24o24b12o$288b12o36b12o$288b12o36b12o$
288b12o36b12o$288b12o36b12o$288b12o36b12o$288b12o36b12o$288b12o36b12o$
288b12o36b12o$288b12o36b12o$288b12o36b12o$288b12o36b12o$288b12o36b12o$
216b12o60b12o36b12o$216b12o60b12o36b12o$216b12o60b12o36b12o$216b12o60b
12o36b12o$216b12o60b12o36b12o$216b12o60b12o36b12o$216b12o60b12o36b12o$
216b12o60b12o36b12o$216b12o60b12o36b12o$216b12o60b12o36b12o$216b12o60b
12o36b12o$216b12o60b12o36b12o$228b12o24b24o36b12o12b12o$228b12o24b24o
36b12o12b12o$228b12o24b24o36b12o12b12o$228b12o24b24o36b12o12b12o$228b
12o24b24o36b12o12b12o$228b12o24b24o36b12o12b12o$228b12o24b24o36b12o12b
12o$228b12o24b24o36b12o12b12o$228b12o24b24o36b12o12b12o$228b12o24b24o
36b12o12b12o$228b12o24b24o36b12o12b12o$228b12o24b24o36b12o12b12o$240b
36o60b12o$240b36o60b12o$240b36o60b12o$240b36o60b12o$240b36o60b12o$240b
36o60b12o$240b36o60b12o$240b36o60b12o$240b36o60b12o$240b36o60b12o$240b
36o60b12o$240b36o60b12o$336b12o$336b12o$336b12o$336b12o$336b12o$336b
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b21$6b2o$6b2o!Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
Fixed, thanks!muzik wrote: August 27th, 2023, 6:22 am Run this pattern in Golly and in LifeViewer - it works fine in Golly, but breaks down starting from generation 68 in LifeViewer.
Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
[R]Extended appears to kill a lot more patterns near the border than [R]Standard, [R]History or [R]Super will. I'd expect consistent behaviour here, preferably the more permissive behaviour of the top three.
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o!General-range KILLGLIDERS appears to be acting up again. It replaces historical cells with was-never-on cells, and the bounding box used for calculating whether a glider is outside of the pattern and can be killed does not seem to update past T=0.
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21bo$21bobo$21b2o10$3b2o2b2o$b10o$b10o$12o$12o$b10o$b10o$12o$12o$b10o
$b10o$3b2o2b2o!
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x = 24, y = 24, rule = R1,C2,S2-3,B3
21bo$21bobo$21b2o10$3b2o2b2o$b10o$b10o$12o$12o$b10o$b10o$12o$12o$b10o
$b10o$3b2o2b2o!
[[ KILLGLIDERS THEME Book ]]Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
For some reason, autofit + historyfit zooms incredibly far out on this pattern:
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x = 1, y = 1, rule = B3-jr4n/S2-k3
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[[ AUTOFIT HISTORYFIT
PASTET EVERY 8 0 PASTE bo2$o! 2 -2
PASTET EVERY 8 1 PASTE o2$bo! 1 -2
PASTET EVERY 8 2 PASTE o$2bo! 0 -1
PASTET EVERY 8 3 PASTE 2bo$o! 0 0
PASTET EVERY 8 4 PASTE bo2$o! 1 0
PASTET EVERY 8 5 PASTE o2$bo! 2 0
PASTET EVERY 8 6 PASTE o$2bo! 2 0
PASTET EVERY 8 7 PASTE 2bo$o! 2 -1
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x = 5, y = 3, rule = B36/S12LV
bobo$b2obo$2bo!
[[ GRID SHOWGENSTATS STARTFROM 250 X -250 MAXGRIDSIZE 9 COLOR ALIVE 255 255 128 COLOR ALIVERAMP 255 255 128 HISTORYSTATES 2 COLOR BACKGROUND 0 0 0 COLOR DEAD 192 0 0 COLOR DEADRAMP 0 0 0 SHOWGENSTATS KILLGLIDERS ]]Code: Select all
x = 1, y = 1, rule = B3/S23
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x = 1, y = 1, rule = R1,C2,S2-3,B3
B!Code: Select all
x = 1, y = 1, rule = B3/S23
3bo2bo$3bo2bo$2b6o$10o$2b6o$2b6o$10o$2b6o$3bo2bo$3bo2bo!
[[ PASTET EVERY 12 12 PASTE 3bo2bo$3bo2bo$2b6o$10o$2b6o$2b6o$10o$2b6o$3bo2bo$3bo2bo! 0 0 ]]Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
x$xbx$2x!Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23History
x$xbx$2x!Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23Super
x$xbx$2x!Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
Using Identify on something with a loop command that dies out will cause "Identifying..." to persist instead of there being a "Life ended at" message.
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x = 30, y = 4, rule = B35/S23
bo$obob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$obob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$bo!
[[ LOOP 1000 ]]Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 10, rule = MarBlocks7-OT-2x2-minimal:T10000,10000
5bo2$19bo$2bo$bo6b6o$7b8o$6b10o$o4b11o$5b2ob5ob2o$5b11o$5b2ob8o$5b2ob
o3b3o$6b3obob2o6bo$7b6o$o18bo$bo$17bo$3bo9b2o$5bo4b4o!Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 4, rule = R2,C3,M0,S4..4,B4..4,NM
2B$3A$B2A$B!Code: Select all
x = 34, y = 34, rule = B3-jknr4ity5ijk6i8/S23-a4city6c7cHistory
13.B$12.3B$11.5B.2B$11.9B$11.10B$9.2B.10B$8.3BABA8B$7.3B3ABA8B$6.3BAB
A12B$5.3B2A16B$5.4B2ABA19B$2.3B.5B2A20B$.11BA21B$33B$.18BA10B$2.16BAB
A8B$3.14B.BA10B$2.14B3.10B$2.13BDB3.8B$3.11BDBDB3.6B$4.11BD3B5.B$5.
15B$7.13B$8.12B$9.12B$9.11B$10.10B$10.9B$10.8B$10.5B.B$10.4B$10.4B$
11.3B$12.B!
#C [[ PASTET EVERY 102 0 PASTEMODE COPY PASTE 5BAB$4BABA$3B.BAB$2B3.2B$BDB3.B$DBDB$BD3B! 14 14 ]]
#C [[ PASTET EVERY 102 51 PASTEMODE COPY PASTE 5BDB$4BDBD$3B.BDB$2B3.2B$BAB3.B$ABAB$BA3B! 14 14 ]]Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
o$obo$2o!
[[ COLOR DYING 255 255 255 COLOR DYINGRAMP 255 255 255 COLOR HISTORY 255 255 255 COLOR history 255 255 255 COLOR MARK1 255 255 255 COLOR mark1 255 255 255 COLOR MARK2 255 255 255 COLOR mark2 255 255 255 COLOR MARKOFF 255 255 255 COLOR markoff 255 255 255 COLOR KILL 255 255 255 COLOR kill 255 255 255 COLOR N 255 255 255 COLOR E 255 255 255 COLOR S 255 255 255 COLOR W 255 255 255 COLOR NE 255 255 255 COLOR ES 255 255 255 COLOR SW 255 255 255 COLOR NW 255 255 255 COLOR NS 255 255 255 COLOR EW 255 255 255 COLOR NES 255 255 255 COLOR ESW 255 255 255 COLOR NEW 255 255 255 COLOR NSW 255 255 255 COLOR NESW 255 255 255 COLOR BOUNDED 255 255 255 ]]Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = 23/3/3
o$obo$2o!
[[ COLOR ALIVERAMP 255 255 255 COLOR HISTORY 255 255 255 COLOR history 255 255 255 COLOR MARK1 255 255 255 COLOR mark1 255 255 255 COLOR MARK2 255 255 255 COLOR mark2 255 255 255 COLOR MARKOFF 255 255 255 COLOR markoff 255 255 255 COLOR KILL 255 255 255 COLOR kill 255 255 255 COLOR N 255 255 255 COLOR E 255 255 255 COLOR S 255 255 255 COLOR W 255 255 255 COLOR NE 255 255 255 COLOR ES 255 255 255 COLOR SW 255 255 255 COLOR NW 255 255 255 COLOR NS 255 255 255 COLOR EW 255 255 255 COLOR NES 255 255 255 COLOR ESW 255 255 255 COLOR NEW 255 255 255 COLOR NSW 255 255 255 COLOR NESW 255 255 255 COLOR BOUNDED 255 255 255 ]]Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = PCA_4
o$obo$2o!
[[ COLOR OFF 255 255 255 COLOR ON 255 255 255 COLOR ALIVE 255 255 255 COLOR alive 255 255 255 COLOR ALIVERAMP 255 255 255 COLOR DYING 255 255 255 COLOR DYINGRAMP 255 255 255 COLOR HISTORY 255 255 255 COLOR history 255 255 255 COLOR MARK1 255 255 255 COLOR mark1 255 255 255 COLOR MARK2 255 255 255 COLOR mark2 255 255 255 COLOR MARKOFF 255 255 255 COLOR markoff 255 255 255 COLOR KILL 255 255 255 COLOR kill 255 255 255 COLOR BOUNDED 255 255 255 ]]Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = none
o$obo$2o!
[[ COLOR OFF 255 255 255 COLOR ON 255 255 255 COLOR ALIVE 255 255 255 COLOR alive 255 255 255 COLOR ALIVERAMP 255 255 255 COLOR DEAD 255 255 255 COLOR dead 255 255 255 COLOR DEADRAMP 255 255 255 COLOR DYING 255 255 255 COLOR DYINGRAMP 255 255 255 COLOR HISTORY 255 255 255 COLOR history 255 255 255 COLOR MARK1 255 255 255 COLOR mark1 255 255 255 COLOR MARK2 255 255 255 COLOR mark2 255 255 255 COLOR MARKOFF 255 255 255 COLOR markoff 255 255 255 COLOR KILL 255 255 255 COLOR kill 255 255 255 COLOR BOUNDED 255 255 255 COLOR N 255 255 255 COLOR E 255 255 255 COLOR S 255 255 255 COLOR W 255 255 255 COLOR NE 255 255 255 COLOR ES 255 255 255 COLOR SW 255 255 255 COLOR NW 255 255 255 COLOR NS 255 255 255 COLOR EW 255 255 255 COLOR NES 255 255 255 COLOR ESW 255 255 255 COLOR NEW 255 255 255 COLOR NSW 255 255 255 COLOR NESW 255 255 255 COLOR BOUNDED 255 255 255 ]]Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = Life-RuleLoader
o$obo$2o!
[[ COLOR OFF 255 255 255 COLOR ON 255 255 255 COLOR ALIVE 255 255 255 COLOR alive 255 255 255 COLOR ALIVERAMP 255 255 255 COLOR DEAD 255 255 255 COLOR dead 255 255 255 COLOR DEADRAMP 255 255 255 COLOR DYING 255 255 255 COLOR DYINGRAMP 255 255 255 COLOR HISTORY 255 255 255 COLOR history 255 255 255 COLOR MARK1 255 255 255 COLOR mark1 255 255 255 COLOR MARK2 255 255 255 COLOR mark2 255 255 255 COLOR MARKOFF 255 255 255 COLOR markoff 255 255 255 COLOR KILL 255 255 255 COLOR kill 255 255 255 COLOR N 255 255 255 COLOR E 255 255 255 COLOR S 255 255 255 COLOR W 255 255 255 COLOR NE 255 255 255 COLOR ES 255 255 255 COLOR SW 255 255 255 COLOR NW 255 255 255 COLOR NS 255 255 255 COLOR EW 255 255 255 COLOR NES 255 255 255 COLOR ESW 255 255 255 COLOR NEW 255 255 255 COLOR NSW 255 255 255 COLOR NESW 255 255 255 COLOR BOUNDED 255 255 255 ]]Code: Select all
x = 154, y = 142, rule = B3/S23
84b2o9b2o48b2o$83bo2bo9bo48bo$84b3o9bobo44bobo$83bo3bo9b2o9b2o22b3o8b
2o$82bob4o18b2o2bo19bo3b2o$69b2o11bobob2o18bo2b3o2b2o10b2o2bobo2b2o$70b
o12bobobobo16bo4bo2b2o10b2obo5bo$70bobo12b2obobo16b5o18b5o$71b2o3bo8b
4obo$77b2o6bo3bo17b5o18b5o$77b2o7b3o17bo4bo2b2o10b2obo5bo$66b2o5bo3bo
3bo4bo2bo16bo2b3o2b2o10b2o2bobo2b2o$71bobo3bo3b3o3b2o17b2o2bo19bo3b2o
$65bo3bo6b2o3b3o13b2o9b2o22b3o8b2o$64bo4bo6b2o4b3o11bobo44bobo$63bobo
bo5b3o4b2o14bo48bo$62bobobo7b3o3b2o13b2o48b2o$56b2o2bo4bo8b3o3bo3bobo
$56b2o2bo3bo11bo3bo3bo$70bo2bo5b2o36b2o6b2o$52bo9b2o6bo8b2o35bo2bo4bo
2bo$51bobo15bo4bo6bo3b2o29bo2bo4bo2bo$52bo15bobo2b2o10bobo28bo2bo4bo2b
o$56b3obo5b2obo17bo29b2o6b2o$55bob2ob2o25b3o7b2o$55bo5b2o27bo6bo$55b2o
5bo3bo2bo19b2o4bobo15b2o16b2o$56b2ob2obo5b2o25b2o17bo16bo$57bob3o29b3o
12b2o6bob2o10b2obo$65bo25b3o11bo2bo6bo3bo6bo3bo$64bobo38bobobo10bo4bo
$65bo3bo18b2o16bo2bo6bo3bo4bo3bo$68bobo16bobo4b2o14bo9bo4bo$60b2o6bob
o16bo6bo12bobo5bo3bo6bo3bo$60b2o4b3o2b2o13b2o7b3o16bob2o10b2obo$65b2o
2bobo8bo16bo16bo16bo$64bobob2o2bo6bobo15bob2o10b2obo16b2o$62b3obo3b2o
3bo13b2o7bo3bo6bo3bo38b2o$54b2o5bo4bob2o5bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo12bo4bo26bobo
2b2o6b3o2bo$54bobo4b2o3b2obo4bob2o7b2ob2o9bo3bo4bo3bo21bo2bo2bobo8b2o
$56bo2b2o17b2o5b2o16bo4bo9b2o15b2obo3bo4bo$47b2o6b2obobo14b2o2bo5b2o11b
o3bo6bo3bo4b2o19b2ob2o3bo$47b2o9bo16b2o3b2o3b2ob2o7bob2o10b2obo24b2o2b
o7b2o$54b5o2bo15bo8b2o2bo6bo16bo10b5o5b3o3b3o4b3o2bo$55bo3b3o17b3o7b2o
5b2o16b2o9bo9bo2b2o12b2o$54b2ob2o67bo2bo5b2ob2o$53bo5bo67b2o7bo3bob2o
$53b6o47b2o16b2o10bobo2bo2bo$98bo6bobo3b2o10bo2bo10b2o2bobo$55b2o22b3o
16b2o4bo2bo3b2o14bo$55b2o12bo12bo4b3o12bo3bo16b5o$69b2o7bo3bo3bo3bo11b
obo$47b3o27bobo2bo2bo5bo41b2o$46bo3bo14bobo2b3o2bo2bobo21bobo28b2o$45b
o5bo13b4obo4bo3bo4bo7bo9bo3bo$46bo3bo14b2o8bo8bo7bo5b2o4bo2bo3b2o$36b
3o8b3o26b3o19bo6bobo3b2o$18b2o5b2o9b3o8b3o35bo5bo14b2o$18b2o5b2o9b3o47b
o3bo29b2o15b2o$18b2o5b2o6b3o51b3o30b2o15b2o$18bo7bo6b3o39b2o$16b2ob2o
3b2ob2o4b3o11b2o25bo2bo$16b2ob2o3b2ob2o18b2o25bobobo$16b2o2bo3bo2b2o46b
ob3o53b2o$7b2o8b2obo3bob2o49b3o15bo2b2o4b2o2bo24bobo$7bo2b3o5b2o5b2o67b
o3b3o2b3o3bo18b3o$8b2o9bo5bo9b2o58bo2b2o4b2o2bo18bo3bo$13bo20b4o36b2o
50b2o3b2o$13bo19bo2bobo33bo4bo49bo$8b2o22bobo2b2o32bo6bo22b2o25b5o$7b
o2b3o5b2o5b2o4bobo36bo8bo3b3o43bo$7b2o9b2o5b2o3b2o38bo8bo5bo17bo5bo$18b
2o5b2o3b3o37bo8bo4bo18bo5bo3bo$18bo7bo4bobo37bo6bo22b4o3b4o17bo$16b2o
b2o3b2ob2o3b2o38bo4bo22b2o9b2o13b5o$16b2ob2o3b2ob2o45b2o23b3o2b2ob2o2b
3o17bo$5bobo8b2o2bo3bo2b2o70b2o3b2ob2o3b2o12b2o3b2o$4bo2bo9b2obo3bob2o
42bo2bo26b3obo3bob3o14bo3bo$4b2o2b2o8b2o5b2o47bo26b2o7b2o16b3o$4bo4bo
9bo5bo7b2o34bo5bo26b3o3b3o12bobo$b3o5bo22bo2bo33b2o4bo28b2ob2o15b2o$o
bo5bo22bobobo38bo28bobobobo$7bo23bo2bo38bo21b2o7bo3bo$2o4bobo9b2o5b2o
3bo41b4obo17b2o$2bo2bobobo2b2o4b2o5b2o4bobo38bo3bo43b2o15b2o$2b3o3bo3b
2o56bo3bo21bo23b2o15b2o$34b2o33bob4o20bobo$32bo4bo35bo16b2o2bo2bo4b3o
3b3o$8b2o21bo6bo33bo17b2obo8b2obobob2o$8b2o20bo8bo3b3o25bo4b2o16b2o9b
obo$30bo8bo5bo25bo5bo$30bo8bo4bo27bo31b2ob2o$31bo6bo34bo2bo6bo4bo$32b
o4bo43b3o3bob2o$34b2o44bo6bobo5b2o$80b2o6bobo3bobo$93b3o$74bob2o15b2o
$73bo2bob2o14bobo$73bo2bo3bo14bobo2b2o$73b3o20bo2bobo$68bo11bo16b4o$67b
o11bo18b2o$72b3o$67bo3bo2bo$68b2obo2bo$70b2obo$49bo$49b3o14b2o$52bo14b
o$51b2o11b3o$64bo$62bobo$62b2o7$58bobo$57bo2bo$57bo2bo$58bo2$53bo$51b
o2bo$51bo2bo$51bobo7$48b2o$47bobo$47bo$46b2o11b2o$59bo$60b3o$62bo!
[[ ERROR ]]Could Identify's period limit be increased for sufficiently small patterns? This tiny thing, which must be periodic by definition, makes it to 4194304 in just 26 seconds:
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x = 7, y = 6, rule = M0,1,2,3,4,10,6,11,8,9,5,13,12,14,7,15
b3o$2bo$bob2o$3b3o$bo2b3o$bob2obo!Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 6, rule = M0,1,2,3,4,10,6,11,8,9,5,13,12,14,7,15
b3o$2bo$bob2o$3b2o$bo2bo$bob2o!Code: Select all
x = 54, y = 2, rule = B2ae/S
bo48bobo$o49bo2bo!Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
3bo$bo3bo$o$o4bo$5o!
[[ AUTOFIT HISTORYFIT AUTOSTART STOP 80 ]]Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads
I need to better understand which StateInvestigator states are on and off. From looking at Rule:StateInvestigator it doesn't appear to define whether state 14 is on or off. Also states 17 to 20 are problematic since whether they are on or off depends on whether we're calculating births or deaths. So if I see a state 17 cell in a pattern do I add it to the population as a live cell?muzik wrote: August 26th, 2023, 5:18 pm From my testing, period maps in [R]Extended appear to work just about perfectly, with the important exception of the [R]Extended cells themselves, as they either render as background cells, p1 cells or p2 cells when they shouldn't.
As a side note it would have been better if the odd numbered states were ON and even OFF as for [R]History and [R]Super.