LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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galoomba wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 2:04 pm
mniemiec wrote: June 2nd, 2023, 11:59 am Also, in case anyone is interested, I decided to examine the 12-bit still-lifes, and flesh out all the trivial holes with existing technology. This leaves 75 synthesized, 36 unsynthesized (and 10 that are valid in Life but not in LeapLife).

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Could you post the actual syntheses?
In the meantime, here's Catagolue syntheses for 25 of the 75 synthesised ones, most of which should also be cheaper than incremental ones:

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x = 390, y = 616, rule = B2n3/S23-q
240bo$238bobo$3bobo130bo102b2o$4b2o130bobo$4bo70bo60b2o50bobo$73b2o
114b2o63bo$74b2o113bo64bobo$254b2o63bo9bo43bobo$3b3o114bo197bo8b2o44b
2o8bo$5bo115b2o66bobo111bo14b3o7b2o44bo6b2o$4bo115b2o68b2o112bo5bo71b
2o$190bo111b3o6b2o$255bo54b2o$62bo191b2o$62b2o190bobo117bobo$61bobo8bo
123b3o175b2o$70b2o124bo172bo5bo$71b2o110b3o11bo172bo$12b2o122b3o46bo
182b3o$11b2o123bo47bo$13bo117b3o3bo$75bo57bo$74b2o56bo$74bobo$16bo222b
2o$15b2o223b2o$15bobo221bo60$230bo$231b2o$230b2o$296bobo$133bo163b2o
67bobo$2bo131bo162bo68b2o$2o130b3o232bo$b2o70bo158bo$71b2o160bo$72b2o
157b3o2$3bo59bo$2b2o60b2o299bobo$2bobo58b2o300b2o$366bo5bobo$234b3o
135b2o$158b2o74bo138bo$65bobo89b2o76bo67bo$66b2o91bo143b2o58b2o$3bo62b
o77bo83b2o72bobo58bobo$2b2o140b2o83b2o77b2o53bo$2bobo138bobo82bo78b2o$
297bo11bo10b3o$297b2o21bo$296bobo22bo2$76b2o74b3o$5b3o67b2o75bo$5bo71b
o75bo$6bo7$252b3o$252bo134b2o$16b3o234bo133bobo$16bo66b2o302bo$17bo64b
2o$84bo6$182bo$181b2o$181bobo50$2bo$3bo82bo$b3o82bobo$86b2o2$145bobo$
146b2o$146bo2$76bobo$77b2o$77bo3$17bo$17bobo58b2o77bo22bo$17b2o50b2o8b
2o74bobo9bo10b2o$68bobo7bo9b2o66b2o8bo12b2o$70bo16b2o77b3o$89bo$13bo$
12b2o$12bobo4$3o$2bo$bo159bo$161b2o$160bobo2$176b2o$18b2o155b2o$18bobo
156bo$18bo2$104b2o$103b2o$105bo2$24b2o$24bobo$24bo44$204bo$202bobo$
203b2o7$145bo$71bo71bobo$72b2o16bo53b2o$4bo66b2o16bo$5b2o82b3o69bo$4b
2o153b2o62bo$160b2o62b2o$138bobo82b2o$28bo110b2o$27bo111bo$27b3o$3bo
80bo$bobo80bobo$2b2o80b2o63bo$74bo73bo74bo$75b2o71b3o61bo11bo$26bo47b
2o134bobo9b3o$25bo185b2o$25b3o2$225b2o$144b3o77b2o$146bo79bo$145bo$b2o
7b2o$obo6b2o15bo47b2o$2bo8bo13b2o48b2o$25bobo46bo64bo$84b2o53b2o$84bob
o51bobo$84bo4$139b2o$140b2o$139bo$92b2o$92bobo168b2o$92bo169b2o$264bo
13$205b2o$206b2o$205bo27$o$b2o$2o$136bo$137bo$135b3o2$78bo$65bo12bobo$
66bo11b2o$14bobo47b3o16bobo$14b2o67b2o$6bo8bo68bo$7bo$5b3o$16bo$14b2o$
15b2o65bo$80b2o$81b2o2$72bo80bo$73b2o63bo12b2o$72b2o65bo12b2o$137b3o3$
15b2o55b2o$14b2o57b2o$16bo55bo$5b3o157bobo$7bo73b2o82b2o$6bo8bo64b2o
84bo$14b2o66bo$14bobo2$93bo49bo$92b2o49b2o$92bobo47bobo4$18b2o$17b2o$
19bo150b3o$156b2o12bo$157b2o12bo$156bo16$172b3o$172bo$173bo32$21bo$bo
17b2o$2bo17b2o$3o4$5bo$6b2o$5b2o2$12bobo$12b2o$13bo15$13bo$12b2o$12bob
o2$5b2o$6b2o$5bo4$3o$2bo17b2o$bo17b2o$21bo5$28b2o$27b2o$29bo56$12bo24b
o$10bobo23bo$11b2o23b3o3$21bo$22bo$20b3o6$12bo$13b2o6bo$12b2o5bobo$20b
2o8bo$28b2o$29b2o8$29b2o$28b2o$20b2o8bo$12b2o5bobo$13b2o6bo$12bo16$56b
2o$55b2o$2o55bo$b2o$o!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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7G Claw with boat with tail:

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x = 56, y = 70, rule = B2n3/S23-q
54bo$53bo$4bobo46b3o$5b2o$5bo3$10bo$11bo$9b3o2$46bo$46bobo$46b2o5$4bo$
5bo$3b3o42$51b2o$50b2o$52bo3$3o$2bo$bo!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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FWKnightship wrote: June 4th, 2023, 10:07 pm 7G Claw with boat with tail:

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x = 56, y = 70, rule = B2n3/S23-q
54bo$53bo$4bobo46b3o$5b2o$5bo3$10bo$11bo$9b3o2$46bo$46bobo$46b2o5$4bo$
5bo$3b3o42$51b2o$50b2o$52bo3$3o$2bo$bo!
6G:

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x = 57, y = 64, rule = B2n3/S23-q
55bo$54bo$5bobo46b3o$6b2o$6bo3$11bo$12bo$10b3o2$47bo$bo45bobo$2bo44b2o
$3o47$5b2o$4bobo$6bo!
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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FWKnightship wrote: June 4th, 2023, 10:07 pm7G Claw with boat with tail: ...
Period1GliderGun wrote: June 5th, 2023, 11:58 am6G: ...
That was previously buildable from 6 gliders, based on recent improvements to the predecessor:

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x = 49, y = 28, rule = B2n3/S23-q
5bo$6bo$4b3o7$bbo$obo$boo$$36boo$37bo$37boboo$38bobbo$40bobo$41bo3$42b
oobboo$17boo22bobobbobo$16bobo24bobbo$18bo$21boo$20boo$22bo!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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How about 5G?

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x = 36, y = 48, rule = B2n3/S23-q
34bo$33bo$obo30b3o$b2o$bo3$6bo$7bo$5b3o2$26bo$26bobo$26b2o32$2b2o$bob
o$3bo!
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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I concocted a Rube-Goldberg carrier to python converter; it's messy, but it works. I'm sure it can be improved.
(Shown here in its base form, plus a slightly less obtrusive form needed for python ties).
This solves 4 of the unsolved python-related still-lifes.
A new much cheaper long boat to python converter makes the last of these much cheaper.
This leaves 15 unsolved still-lifes.
There are also 4 unsolved 12-bit pseudo-still-lives, and 9 13-bit ones. All involve snakes and/or eaters, as there are currently no ways known to add either of these.

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x = 222, y = 127, rule = B2n3/S23-q
80bo$81boo$80boo5bobo$87boo$88bo35bobo$83bo41boo$84bo40bo$75bobo4b3o$
76boo47boo$76bo48boo$73bo$6boo38boo25boo3b3o5boo37boo38boo$6bobboo35bo
bboo21bobo5bo5bobboo34boboboo34boboboo$8boobobo34boobobo25bo8boobobo
34boobobo34boobobo$12boo38boo38boo38boo38boo$44boo34bo3boo$44boo34boo
bbobo$3obboo72bobo3bo$bboboo$bo4bo39boobboo$45bobobbobo$47bobbo9$80bo$
81boo$80boo5bobo$87boo$88bo35bobo$83bo41boo$84bo40bo$75bobo4b3o$76boo
47boo$76bo48boo$73bo$6boo38boo25boo3b3o5boo37boo38boo$6bobbo36bobbo22b
obo5bo5bobbo35bobobo35bobobo$8boo38boo29bo8boo38boo38boo$10boo38boo38b
oo38boo38boo$10bobo31boo4bobo27bo3boo4bobo37bobo37bobo$11bo32boo5bo28b
oobbobo4bo39bo39bo$3obboo72bobo3bobo$bboboo80bo$bo4bo39bo$46boo$45bobo
$$49b3o$49bo$50bo6$136bo$134boo$135boo7$127bo$126bobo36boo$127bobo35bo
bobo$114bo13boo38boo$115boo13boo38boo$114boo14bobo37bobo$118b3o10bo39b
o$120bo$119bo12$41boo$5boo13boo13boo5bo7boo$5boboboo9bobobo10bobob3o8b
oboboo$8boobobo9boo13boo13boobo$12boo11boo29bo$25bobo28boo$26bo15$5bob
oo11boo13boo13booboo11boo12boobbo10boo4bo8bo14boo15bo12boo13boobo11boo
13boo13boo$5boobo12bo14bo4boo7boboobo9bobo12bobbobo10bobb3o8b3o12bobo
13bobo12bo3bo9boboo12bo14bo14bo$8boboo9bobooboo8boboobbo13bobo6boboboo
10bobobo10bobo14bobboo10boboo9bobbo11bob3o13boo10boboo11bobo12bobo$8b
oobo10boboobo9boboo16boo7bobobo11bobo12bobo12bobbobo11boobbo6boo3bo11b
o16bo12boobo11bobo12boo$67bo15bo14bo14boo17boo8b3o13bo16bo14bo12bo15b
oo$142bo14boo15boo14boo12b3o12bobo$206bo13bo4$5booboboboo6booboboobo6b
ooboo10boobo26bobooboo8boo13boo13boobobo9booboboo8booboboo8booboo$5bob
ooboobo6bobooboboo6bo3bo10boboo26boobobo10bo13bo14boboob3o7boboobo9bob
oobobo7boobo$36bobo47b3o7boboboboo7b3oboboo14bo12b3o13bo11bo$35booboo
11boobo33bo8booboobo9boboobo13boo14bo13boo11bo$51boboo117b3o$172bo!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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galoomba wrote: June 4th, 2023, 8:40 am In the meantime, here's Catagolue syntheses for 25 of the 75 synthesised ones, most of which should also be cheaper than incremental ones: ...
Where are you seeing Catalogue syntheses? If I look at the patterns, there is no synthesis section listed. If I look at the tabulations, I see "The specified tabulation does not appear to exist."
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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No way! Block 2 boat hassler? :shock:
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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mniemiec wrote: June 7th, 2023, 1:52 pm Where are you seeing Catalogue syntheses? If I look at the patterns, there is no synthesis section listed. If I look at the tabulations, I see "The specified tabulation does not appear to exist."
The various glider stdin "symmetries". Some of them apparently weren't configured correctly, but most of them work.
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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I was able to make a boat-to-snake converter, which solves one 12-bit still-life, 8 12-13-bit pseudo-still-lifes, and several P2 pseudo-oscillators.
This leaves 14 unknown still-lifes up to 12 bits, and 3 unknown pseudo-still-lifes up to 13 bits.

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x = 209, y = 66, rule = B2n3/S23-q
6bo$4boo$bbobboo36boobo36boobo36boobo36boobo6bobo27boobo$obo40boboo36b
oboo36boboo36boboo6boo28boboo$boo44boo38boo38boo38boo5bo32boo$47bobo
37bobo37bobo37bobo37bo$6b3o39bo39bo39bo39bo39bo$8bo153bo9boo33boo$7bo
119bo34boo3bo4bobo$87boo37bobo32bobobbobo3bo$9boo75bobbo37bo38boo$9bob
o33bo36bo3bobbo$9bo35boobboo32boobboo$44boboboo32boo37boobboo37b3o$50b
o69bobobbobo38bo$122bobbo39bo$$167b3o$167bo$168bo11$oobo11booboboboo6b
ooboboobo6boo13boo13boo13boo13boo13boo13boo13boo13boo13boo$oboo11boboo
boobo6bobooboboo7bo14bo14bo14bo13bo15bo13bobo12bobo12bobo12bobo$4boo
40boboboobo7boboboboo7bobo12bobo12bo13bo$4bo42booboboo8booboobo8boo13b
oo11boo13boo15boboboboo7boboboobo7bobo12bobo$5bo132booboobo8booboboo
10boboboo9boboobo$4boo71boo13boo11boo13boo47booboobo8booboboo$78bo13bo
13bo14bo$77bo15bo12bobo12bobo$77boo13boo13boo13boo7$oboo11boo13boo13b
ooboo11boo12boobbo10boo4bo8bo14boo15bo12boo13boo13boo13boo$oobo12bo14b
o4boo7boboobo9bobo12bobbobo10bobb3o8b3o12bobo13bobo12bo3bo10bo14bo14bo
$3boboo9bobooboo8boboobbo13bobo6boboboo10bobobo10bobo14bobboo10boboo9b
obbo11bob3o10boboo11bobo12bobo$3boobo10boboobo9boboo16boo7bobobo11bobo
12bobo12bobbobo11boobbo6boo3bo11bo14boobo11bobo12boo$62bo15bo14bo14boo
17boo8b3o13bo16bo12bo15boo$137bo14boo16boo12b3o12bobo$186bo13bo9$ooboo
10boobo11booboo$o3bo10boboo11boobo$bobo30bo$ooboo11boobo15bo$16boboo
12b3o$32bo!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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While looking through Catalogue for something unrelated, I noticed that a butterfly temporarily acts as a dirty P28 (mod 14) shuttle, leaving behind some toxic junk; I'm not sure if anyone had ever noticed this before. There might be able to stabilize this with blocks or other still-lifes. I found a few positions where a single block takes a nice chunk out of the debris and survives for a while, but not enough to make a clean oscillator. It may be possible to successfully use another still life, or several still-lifes to do this. I also couldn't find a way for two butterflies to successfully rub against each other symmetrically, although there might be ways to do so asymmetrically in space and/or time.

It's easy to stabilize this with a P14 oscillator, but that seems a bit like cheating. Here are trans and cis versions (for 9 and 12 gliders respectively) for one such arrangement; there are likely many others:

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x = 261, y = 131, rule = B2n3/S23-q
131b4o36b4o36b4o36b4o$90bo5boo31bo6bo32bo6bo32bo6bo32bo6bo$88bobo4boo
32bo6bo32bo6bo32bo6bo32bo6bo$89boo6bo31bo6bo32bo6bo32bo6bo32bo6bo$132b
oo38boo38boo38boo7$87boo168bo$88boo167boo$87bo88bo32boo3boo35bo4bobbo$
172boobbobo31boobobo34b3o5bo$173booboo31bo4bo34booboo$129bo42bo80boo$
130boo119bobboo$129boo122boo$253bo6$174boo38boo38boo$131boo6bo31bo6bo
32bo6bo32bo6bo$130bobo4boo32bo6bo32bo6bo32bo6bo$132bo5boo31bo6bo32bo6b
o32bo6bo$173b4o36b4o36b4o17$79bo$80boo$79boo15$91bobo$92boo$92bo$$145b
o$99b3o38booboo$52bo46bo40boobboo$50boo48bo30b4o36b4o36b4o36b4o$46bo4b
oo35bo40bo6bo32bo6bo32bo6bo32bo6bo$47boo38bobo39bo6bo32bo6bo32bo6bo32b
o6bo$46boo39bobo39bo6bo32bo6bo32bo6bo32bo6bo$88bo43boo38boo38boo38boo
4$10bobo$bo8boo$bbo8bo28b3o37b3o37b3o37b3o37b3o37b3o11bo$3o250boo$39bo
39bo39bo39bo39bo39bo12boobbo$39bo3bo35bo3bo35bo3bo35bo3bo9bobo23bo3bo
35bo3bo9boo$39bo3bo35bo3bo35bo3bo35bo3bo9boo24bo3bo9bo4bo20bo3bo10boob
oo$39bo39bo39bo39bo14bo24bo12boboboo21bo15b3o$bo210boo3boo37bo$oo38b3o
37b3o37b3o37b3o9b3o25b3o37b3o9bo$obo171bo75boo$173bo77bobo$252bo30$
157boo18boo18boo18boo18boo18boo$157bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$157bobbo16bo
bbo16bobbo16bobbo16bobbo16bobbo$158b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o3$253b
oo$253boo$215boo17boo$161boo16boo15boo17boo17boo$161boo16boo15boo!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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mniemiec wrote: June 11th, 2023, 12:44 pm While looking through Catalogue for something unrelated, I noticed that a butterfly temporarily acts as a dirty P28 (mod 14) shuttle, leaving behind some toxic junk; I'm not sure if anyone had ever noticed this before. There might be able to stabilize this with blocks or other still-lifes.
There was this p28:
AbhpzTa wrote: February 5th, 2020, 1:17 pm p28:

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x = 28, y = 18, rule = B2n3/S23-q
9b2o$9b2o$22b2o$22bobob2o$12bo11bobo$24bo2bo$25b3o$9bo12b3o$2b2o11b2o
5bo2bo$2bo2bo10bo7b2o$3b3o7bo2bo$3o10b3o$o2bo$bobo$2obobo$4b2o$17b2o$
17b2o!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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Inspiration from another soup gives both cis tripole-tie-tripole and tripole-tie-bipole from 8 gliders. (The related cis bipole-tie-bipole would require a way to front-shoot a small V spark; there probably is one, but I don't know it).

Another soup provided a synthesis for trans bipole-tie-bipole.

Some new converters can convert bipoles and tripoles into smaller objects, allowing construction of all small bipole- and tripole-ties except 3: the one above, plus trans tripole-tie-tripole and tripole-tie-bipole.

Finally, a new boat-to-eater converter solves one of the remaining 12-bit still-lifes (eater tie boat).

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x = 327, y = 273, rule = B2n3/S23-q
268bobo$268boo$269bo$$bbo158bo$obo159boo$boo158boo43$50bo159bo$51bo
159bo$49b3o157b3o6$65bobo157bobo$66boo68boo88boo$66bo69bobo87bo70boo$
56bo159bo80bo$57bo6boo72bobo76bo6boo72bobo$55b3o5bobo75bo73b3o5bobo75b
o$65bo74boo83bo74boo$142boo158boo$142bobo157bobo$$144bobo157bobo$147bo
159bo$146boo158boo45$boo$bboo$bo6$10bo159bo$10boo107b3o48boo107b3o$9bo
bo107bo49bobo107bo$120bo159bo17$219bo64bo$218bo65bobo$151bobo64b3o63b
oo$152boo$152bo58boo73bo$149bo61bobo72bo$149boo61bo17bo55bo$obo145bobo
78bo47boo38boo$boo61bo59bo39bo59bo4b3o45bobo37bobo$bo61bobo57bobo37bob
o57bobo$4bo58boo58boo38boo58boo54bobo37bobo$4boo274boo38boo$3bobo52bo
223boo38boo$59bo56bo42boo58boo61bobo37bobo$57b3o57bob3o36bobo53bo3bobo
$115b3o40boo55bobboo64bobo37bobo$59bo113bobo37b3o69boo38boo$59boo112b
oo56bo45bo$58bobo113bo55bobo44bo$171bo59boo44bo$170boo$170bobo50b3o52b
oo$225bo51bobo$224bo54bo24$13boo28boo28boo28boo28boo28boo$13bobo27bobo
27bobo27bobo27bobo27bobo$44bo60bo58boo$15bobo57bobo27boo28bobo5bo$16b
oo58boo58boo5bobo$80boo61boo$12boo5bo29boo29bobo49boo5bo$11bobo4boo29b
oo29bo50bobo4boo$13bo4bobo87boo23bo4bobo$108boo$77b3o95boo$79bo95boo$
78bo18$13boo28boo28boo7bobo18boo$13bo29bobo27bo8boo19bobo$14bobo27bo
29bobo6bo21bo3b3o$9bo95boo$10boo4bobo57bobo3boo$9boo6boo58boo3bobo$82b
o$13boo$12bobo$14bo$17boo$17bobo$17bo8$54bo$52boo$48bo4boo30bo4bo$49b
oo35boobobo$48boo35boobbobo$90bo3$129boo$51bo39bo38bo$11bo38bobo33boo
bbobo37bobo$10bo40boo32bobo3boo38boo$10b3o40boo32bo5boo38boo$53bobo37b
obo37bobo$14bo39bo39bo39bo$13boo$13bobo15$21b3o$21bo$22bo!
EDIT: This simple converter converts a boat to a tail-first eater, allowing for pseudo-objects like this. (Unfortunately, it is too obtrusive to work with tied boats). What's surprising is that this converter also works in regular Life. (I'm not sure if it was known before; I didn't know it, and the best Life converter I had had to do this took four gliders.) Now all that remains is making a chin-first eater; I suspect that will be much harder than in Life.

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x = 27, y = 14, rule = B2n3/S23-q
oo18boo$obo17bobo$$bbobo17bobo$3boo18boo$$3boo18boo$bbobobbobo14bo$3bo
3boo15bobo$8bo16boo$bboo$bobo4bo$3bo4boo$7bobo!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

Post by mniemiec »

3 new soup-inspired still-life syntheses, plus 4 new syntheses based on overlooked converters (plus 2 improved existing ones). This leaves just 6 unsynthesized 12-bit still-lifes:

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x = 314, y = 276, rule = B2n3/S23-q
6bo$7bo$5b3o4$41bo$18boo21b3o$10bo6boo20boo3bo$11bo7bo20bobbo$9b3o28bo
bo$41bo$13boo$6bo5boo$4boo8bo$3obboo$bbo$bo13$233bo$40bo192bobo$9boo
30bo191boo$9bobo27b3o140bo21bo$bboo5bo170bobo19boo31bo$bobo177boo20boo
30bo$3bo41boo3boo28boo153bo$6boo37bo5bo29bo$5boo40bobo30bo$7bo38booboo
28bo112bo$47bobo29bobo111boo$45bo5bo28bobo109boo70bobbo$45boo3boo30bo
113bo65bobobbobo$39boo41boo112bobo64boobboo$40boo154boo108boo$39bo14b
3o249bo$50boobbo172boo38boo38bo$51boobbo171bobboo35bobboo36boboo$50bo
178boobbo35boobbo35boobbo$232boo38boo38boo$$53b3o$53bo$54bo$$49boo$48b
obo$50bo3$190bo$190bobo$190boo$$203bo$202bo$202b3o3$184bo$184bobo3bo$
52bo131boo4bobo31bobbo$52bobo135boo30bobobbobo$52boo133bo35boobboo$45b
o10boo30boo96boo78boo$41bo3bobo8bobo28bobo96bobo77bo$42bobboo9bo30bobo
boo134boo38bo$40b3o45bobobo134bobboobo34boboobo$89bo139booboo35booboo
$$bo$bboo$boo40boo$42bobbo$bo35b3obbobbo$boo36bo3boo$obo35bo24$23bo$
21boo$22boo4$92bo$93boobobo$bo90boobboo$bboo93bo$boo$45boo38boo38boo4b
o33boo4bo$6bobo37bo9bobo27bo39bobb3o5b3obbo23bobb3o$7boo37bobo7boo28bo
bo5boo30bobo12bo24bobo$7bo39bobo7bo29bobo3bobbo30bobo11b3o23bobo$48bo
39bo4bobbo31bo39bo$5boo49boo36boo$6boo47boo$5bo51bo22$23bo$21boo$22boo
6$bo$bboo$boo54bo$45boo8boo28boo38boo38boo$6bobo37bo9boo28bo7boo30bo
39bo$7boo37bobo37bobo4bobbo29bobo37bobo$7bo39bobo7bo29bobo3bobbo30bobo
11b3o23bobo$48bo7boo30bo5boo32bo12bo26bo$5boo49bobo70b3o5b3obbo26b3o$
6boo123bo39bo$5bo$97bo$92boobboo$93boobobo$92bo18$53bo$53bobo$53boo$bb
o21bo$obo19boo31bo$boo20boo30bo$55bo3$12bo$13boo$12boo69bo$16bo67bo$
16bobo63b3o$16boo$125boo$47boo33b3obboo36bobo$47bobboo32bobbobboo36bob
oo$49boobbo29bo5boobbo35boobbo$52boo38boo38boo21$10bo$10bobo$10boo$$
23bo$22bo$22b3o3$4bo$4bobo3bo$4boo4bobo30bo$10boo32bo$7bo34b3o$6boo$6b
obo76boo$42b3obboo36bobo$44bobbobboobo34boboobo$43bo5booboo35booboo22$
boboo16boo18boo18boobbo15boo18boo$boobo17bo19bo4boo12bobbobo15bo3bo15b
o$4boboo14bobooboo13boboobbo13bobobo15bob3o15boboo$4boobo15boboobo14bo
boo16bobo17bo19boobo$64bo19bo21bo$83boo21boo!
2023-06-21 EDIT: One more soup-inspired synthesis: hook w/tail siamese carrier in 5:

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x = 87, y = 15, rule = B2n3/S23-q
40bo$39bo$39b3o$$37bo$38bo$36b3o40boo$80bo4boo$80boboobbo$3bobo75boboo
$3boo36bo4b3o$4bo35bobo3bo$bo39boo4bo$oo$obo!
2023-06-23 EDIT: Hexapole from 12:

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x = 60, y = 23, rule = B2n3/S23-q
7bobo12bo$8boo10boo$8bo12boo$29bo$13bo14bo$14boo12b3o20boo$13boo36bobo
$$53bobo$$6bo48bobo$o5boo7bo7boo$boobbobo6bo9boo31bobo$oo12b3o6bo11boo
21boo$35bobo$14bo20bo$14boo$7boo4bobo$6bobo$8bo$bo$boo$obo!
2023-06-25 EDIT: 13-bit phoenix from 15:

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x = 136, y = 66, rule = B2n3/S23-q
43bobo$27bo16boo$28bo15bo$26b3o30$63bo7bo$61bobo7bobo$62boo7boo$5bo$6b
oo$5boo$$6bo$6boo59bo$5bobo58bobo$66bobbo$67boo$9bo52b3o$9bobo52bo$9b
oo52bo66bo$130bobo$10bo56boo59bo$9boo56boo65bo$9bobo62boo51boo$74bobo
57boo$64boo8bo54bo$64boo65bobo$3obboo124bo$bboboo62b3o$bo4bo63bo$69bo
5$61b3obboo$63boboo$62bo4bo!
2023-06-26: EDIT: Honeybarge from 15 (yuck):

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x = 162, y = 22, rule = B2n3/S23-q
41bo$39bobo3bo$40booboo17bo7bo10bo38bo$44boo14bobo6bo11bo38bobo$61boo
6b3o9bo18bo19boo$3bobo95bo$4boo93b3o19bo$4bo38boo19bo13bo4boo35bobo$bo
41bobo16bobo12bobo3bobo17bo16bobo$boo29bo3boo6bo18boo4bobo4bobbo4bo17b
obo16bo$obo29booboo33boo5boo23bobbo$31bobo3bo25bo6bo32boo$63boo52bobb
oo35bobboo$62bobo51bobobbo34bobobbo$116bobobo35bobobo$117bobo37bobo$
118bo39bo$$61bo$61boo15boo$60bobo15bobo$78bo!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

Post by galoomba »

Hunting wrote: February 7th, 2021, 10:57 pm Bump. Soup-based block-to-octapole component:

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x = 20, y = 29, rule = B2n3/S23-q
2bo$obo$b2o5$18bo$17bobo$17bobo$18bo$4bo$3bobo$4b2o$12bo$4b2o5bobo$3bo
2bo4b2o$4bobo$5bo5$8b2o$8b2o2$6b4o$5bo3bo$5b2o!
11G octapole:

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x = 33, y = 33, rule = B2n3/S23-q
10bo$11bo$2bo6b3o$obo$b2o3$8bo$6bobo$7b2o$22bobo$22b2o$23bo$4bo$5bo$3b
3o7$9b2o$9bobo$9bo2$5b2o13b3o$4bobo13bo10b2o$6bo14bo8b2o$32bo$10b2o3b
2o$9bobo2b2o$11bo4bo!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

Post by galoomba »

9G heptapole. There might be a different ship synthesis that doesn't need the kickback.

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x = 71, y = 53, rule = B2n3/S23-q
35bo$34bo$34b3o5$45bo$43b2o$17bo26b2o$18bo$16b3o11$69b2o$22bo45bobo$
20b2o42b2o2b2o$21b2o40bo2bo$63bo2bo$64b2o2$62b2o$31b2o28bobo$30b2o29b
2o$32bo9bo$41b2o$41bobo8$33b2o$33bobo$33bo4$26b2o$25b2o$bo25bo$b2o$obo!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

Post by mniemiec »

galoomba wrote: July 16th, 2023, 2:56 pm9G heptapole. ...
Very nice! I am not aware of any previous synthesis of this.
Hunting wrote: February 7th, 2021, 10:57 pmBump. Soup-based block-to-octapole component: ...
galoomba wrote: July 16th, 2023, 2:24 pm11G octapole: ...
Nice 3-glider pseudo-still-life! The boat can be made with 2 gliders, reducing this to 10:

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x = 179, y = 21, rule = B2n3/S23-q
87bo4bo$88boobo$87boobb3o$128boo38boo$3bo124boo38bobo$4bo$bb3o165bobo
$$6bo45bo119bobo$5bo39bo7bo31bo39bo$5b3o36bobo4b3o30bobo37bobo47bobo$
43bobbo36bobbo4boo30bobbo4boo$44boo7bo30boo5bobo30boo5bobo42bobo$52boo
38bo39bo44boo$44boo6bobo29boo11bo26boo$43bobo37bobo10bo26bobo5boo$boo
41bo39bo11b3o25bo5bobo$obo129bo5bo$bbo95bo38bobo$98boo37bobo$97bobo38b
o!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

Post by galoomba »

mniemiec wrote: July 16th, 2023, 3:34 pm Nice 3-glider pseudo-still-life! The boat can be made with 2 gliders, reducing this to 10:

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snip
The pseudo-still-life synthesis was found by the 4G python script (i don't remember where i got the LeapLife version from).
I thought i tried all of the 2G boat syntheses, but i guess i missed that one.
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

Post by galoomba »

On the list on the wiki, xp10_c89aaczw33 referenced a post that did not contain a synthesis of it. But here's a 5G from Catagolue:

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x = 19, y = 13, rule = B2n3/S23-q
9bo$7b2o$8b2o7bo$16bo$o15b3o$b2o$2o$10bobo$10b2o$11bo$2bo$obo$b2o!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

Post by galoomba »

Miscellaneous Catagolue syntheses:

xp12_33y133zxhrhzooy1oo in 10G:

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x = 26, y = 35, rule = B2n3/S23-q
bo21bobo$2bo20b2o$3o21bo4$24bo$23bo$4bo18b3o$5b2o$4b2o3$18bo$17bo$17b
3o4$17b3o$17bo$18bo3$4b2o$5b2o$4bo18b3o$23bo$24bo4$3o21bo$2bo20b2o$bo
21bobo!
xp14_uvpxpvuz374x473 in 4G:

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x = 23, y = 27, rule = B2n3/S23-q
obo$b2o$bo14$18bo$16b2o$17b2o3$20b3o$20bo$21bo$11b2o$12b2o$11bo!
xs20_35ak8gzy0125ako (long^7 ship) in 6G:

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x = 22, y = 24, rule = B2n3/S23-q
9bo$7bobo$8b2o6$10bo$8bobo3b2o4bo$9b2o2b2o4b2o$15bo3bobo$obo$b2o$bo7$
12b2o$12bobo$12bo!
xs30_0gg0s2ibpicz349d443 in 6G:

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x = 25, y = 23, rule = B2n3/S23-q
22bo$o19b2o$b2o18b2o$2o4$13bo$14bo$12b3o4$10b3o$10bo$11bo4$23b2o$2b2o
18b2o$3b2o19bo$2bo!
xs30_641v0rbzwdd0f826 in 9G:

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x = 43, y = 31, rule = B2n3/S23-q
o$b2o$2o3$27bo12bo$25bobo10b2o$26b2o11b2o$7bobo$8b2o$8bo4$30bo$29b2o$
16bo12bobo$14b2o$15b2o2$34bo$33b2o$33bobo$2b2o$3b2o$2bo3$41b2o$40b2o$
42bo!
xs33_w6996z651312km453zy13443 in 6G:

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x = 31, y = 23, rule = B2n3/S23-q
8bo$9b2o18bo$8b2o18bo$28b3o4$23bo$22b2o$22bobo4$6bobo$7b2o$7bo4$3o$2bo
18b2o$bo18b2o$22bo!
xs40_660u1u0u1u066zw314707413 in 8G:

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x = 22, y = 35, rule = B2n3/S23-q
2bo$obo$b2o3$6bo$4bobo$5b2o2$19bo$14bobo2bobo$14b2o3b2o$15bo10$15bo$
14b2o3b2o$14bobo2bobo$19bo2$5b2o$4bobo$6bo3$b2o$obo$2bo!
xs40_rb8bbgzolllldz66066 in 10G:

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x = 23, y = 29, rule = B2n3/S23-q
14bobo$14b2o$15bo2$5bo15bo$6bo13bo$4b3o13b3o4$bo8bobo$2bo8b2o$3o8bo4$
3o8bo$2bo8b2o$bo8bobo4$4b3o13b3o$6bo13bo$5bo15bo2$15bo$14b2o$14bobo!
xs40_gbb8bbgz8lllll8z066066 in 10G:

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x = 27, y = 43, rule = B2n3/S23-q
24bo$24bobo$7bo16b2o$8bo$6b3o2$18bo$18bobo$18b2o2$9bobo$9b2o$bo8bo$2bo
$3o14$3o$2bo$bo8bo$9b2o$9bobo2$18b2o$18bobo$18bo2$6b3o$8bo$7bo16b2o$
24bobo$24bo!
xs44_gbb8bbgzdllllldz066066 in 10G:

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x = 22, y = 37, rule = B2n3/S23-q
21bo$19b2o$20b2o3$21bo$o18b2o$b2o17b2o$2o5$9bo$10b2o8bo$9b2o8bo$19b3o
4$19b3o$9b2o8bo$10b2o8bo$9bo5$2o$b2o17b2o$o18b2o$21bo3$20b2o$19b2o$21b
o!
xs46_gbb8bb8oz8lllllloz066066 in 9G:

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x = 37, y = 42, rule = B2n3/S23-q
17bo$15b2o$16b2o3$5bobo$6b2o$6bo4bo$10bo$10b3o4$bo$2bo$3o8$3o$2bo$bo4$
10b3o$10bo$6bo4bo$6b2o$5bobo3$16b2o$15b2o$17bo$35bo$34b2o$34bobo!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

Post by mniemiec »

galoomba wrote: July 16th, 2023, 4:51 pmOn the list on the wiki, xp10_c89aaczw33 referenced a post that did not contain a synthesis of it. But here's a 5G from Catagolue: ...
Nice! The best one I had was my 2020-07-11 9-glider reduction of lemon41625's synthesis from 20200605.
galoomba wrote: July 16th, 2023, 5:39 pmxp12_33y133zxhrhzooy1oo in 10G: ...
I had this same 10-glider synthesis from Catagolue listed. I'm not sure who originally found it.
galoomba wrote: July 16th, 2023, 5:39 pmxp14_uvpxpvuz374x473 in 4G: ...
Nice! I thought that I already had a 10-glider synthesis of this pair of 12p14s (from FWKnightship 20210409), but this one is different, with the two halves one space closer together. There is also a third with the two halves one further apart, for which I don't know any synthesis yet. Also, the medium one works if the two halves are skewed by 2 or 4 spaces, and the far one works if the two halves are skewed by 2, 3, or 7 spaces.
galoomba wrote: July 16th, 2023, 5:39 pmxs20_35ak8gzy0125ako (long^7 ship) in 6G: ...
This uses the same converter that used to make the long^3 ship - twice. I don't remember anyone thinking about doing this before.
galoomba wrote: July 16th, 2023, 5:39 pmxs30_0gg0s2ibpicz349d443 in 6G: ... xs30_641v0rbzwdd0f826 in 9G: ... xs33_w6996z651312km453zy13443 in 6G: ... xs40_660u1u0u1u066zw314707413 in 8G: ... xs40_rb8bbgzolllldz66066 in 10G: ... xs40_gbb8bbgz8lllll8z066066 in 10G: ... xs44_gbb8bbgzdllllldz066066 in 10G: ... xs46_gbb8bb8oz8lllllloz066066 in 9G: ...
These all appear to be new.

EDIT: Soup-inspired syntheses for 3 of the remaining 6 dual P14s from 12, 15, and 11 respectively. The synthesis for #2 could be trivially adjusted for #3, but a subsequent incremental synthesis of that one was cheaper. (The remaining 3 unsolved ones are on the bottom row).

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x = 270, y = 172, rule = B2n3/S23-q
97bobo$98boo$98bo48boo17bobo$95bo51bobo5bo10boo5bo21bo9b8o42b8o$95boo
51bo5bo12bo3boo23booboo4bo6bo42bo6bo$94bobo57b3o15boo21boobboo$206bo4b
o44bo4bo$$206bo4bo44bo4bo$121bobo20boo15b3o53boobboo$121boo22boo3bo12b
o5bo35bo6bo4booboo33bo6bo$122bo21bo5boo10bo5bobo34b8o9bo32b8o$119bo29b
obo17boo$118boo$118bobo19$154bo$143bo10bobo$144boo8boo$143boo3$o193bo$
boo8bobo181booboo$oo4bo4boo41bo49bo49bo39boobboo7b4o46b4o$4boo6bo40bob
o3bo43bobo3bo43bobo3bo45bo6bo42bo6bo$5boo46bobobbobo42bobobbobo42bobo
bbobo44bo6bo42bo6bo$10boo42bo4boo9bo33bo4boo43bo4boo44bo6bo42bo6bo$11b
oo57bobo135boo48boo$10bo59boo$64bo$59bobboo7bo46boo$59boobboo5boo46boo
91boo48boo$58bobo9bobo37boo48boo4bo41bo6bo42bo6bo$110bobo4bo42bobobbob
o40bo6bo42bo6bo$111bo4boo43bo3bobo40bo6bo42bo6bo$116bobo47bo43b4o7boo
bboo33b4o$221booboo$226bo3$176boo$165boo8boo$164bobo10bo$166bo12$154bo
$143bo10bobo$144boo8boo$143boo3$o193bo$boo8bobo181booboo$oo4bo4boo41bo
49bo49bo39boobboo7b4o46b4o$4boo6bo40bobo3bo43bobo3bo43bobo3bo45bo6bo
42bo6bo$5boo46bobobbobo42bobobbobo42bobobbobo44bo6bo42bo6bo$10boo42bo
4boo13bo29bo4boo43bo4boo44bo6bo42bo6bo$11boo61bobo131boo48boo$10bo63b
oo$68bo$63bobboo7bo46boo$63boobboo5boo46boo91boo48boo$62bobo9bobo37boo
48boo4bo41bo6bo42bo6bo$114bobo4bo42bobobbobo40bo6bo42bo6bo$115bo4boo
43bo3bobo40bo6bo42bo6bo$120bobo47bo43b4o7boobboo33b4o$225booboo$230bo
3$180boo$169boo8boo$168bobo10bo$170bo20$57b4o46b4o46b4o46b4o46b4o$4boo
5bo43bo6bo42bo6bo42bo6bo42bo6bo42bo6bo$5boo4bobo41bo6bo42bo6bo42bo6bo
42bo6bo42bo6bo$4bo6boo42bo6bo11bo30bo6bo42bo6bo42bo6bo42bo6bo$58boo14b
obo31boo48boo48boo48boo$74boo$68bo$63bobboo7bo46boo$63boobboo5boo46boo
91boo48boo$62bobo9bobo37boo48boo4bo41bo6bo42bo6bo$114bobo4bo42bobobbob
o40bo6bo42bo6bo$13boo100bo4boo43bo3bobo40bo6bo42bo6bo$12boo106bobo47bo
43b4o7boobboo33b4o$14bo210booboo$230bo3$180boo$169boo8boo$168bobo10bo$
170bo22$155b8o42b8o42b8o$155bo6bo42bo6bo42bo6bo$$156bo5bo43bo6bo42bo4b
o$157bo5bo44bo6bo$258bo4bo$157bo6bo44bo6bo$157b8o44b8o40bo6bo$257b8o!
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Re: LeapLife Glider Synthes^2

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3G -> 2G + lepa, possibly known

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x = 13, y = 12, rule = B2n3/S23-q
10bobo$10b2o$11bo2$bo$2bo$3o3$3b2o$4b2o$3bo!
#C [[ ZOOM 10 ]]
3G -> G + lepa

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x = 17, y = 29, rule = B2n3/S23-q
bo$2bo$3o19$13bo$14bo$12b3o3$14b3o$16bo$15bo!
#C [[ ZOOM 10 ]]

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x = 9, y = 12, rule = B2n3/S23-q
obo$b2o$bo2$6bo$7bo$5b3o3$6b2o$7b2o$6bo!
#C [[ ZOOM 10 ]]
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