there's not really any reason to restrict ourselves to GoL-- after all, we can just emulate the rule we have a failed ship in using 0E0P metacellsBokaBB wrote: November 1st, 2020, 2:07 pmCan you make failed spaceships in Conway's game of life instead?wwei23 wrote: November 1st, 2020, 2:06 pmOn the other hand, there's no real way to tell which ones break and when. For example, this one becomes an actual spaceship.MathAndCode wrote: November 1st, 2020, 1:56 pmi don't think that it should count because it can be extended indefinitely.Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 298, rule = B3aeikn4cqtwz5eknq6k7/S23aijnq4ijnr5-aekn6cin7e b2ob2o$b2ob2o7$2bobo$bobobo$2bobo286$2o3b2o$2o3b2o!
Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
Re: Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
κ is measurable iff there is a nontrivial elementary embedding j:V→M (M transitive) with critical point κ
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Re: Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
But if that is allowed, then one must allow a meta-meta-failed spaceship, which would last even longer, as well as meta-meta-meta-spaceships, which would last for even longer, etc…, so there would be no upper bound. Therefore, I do not think that metacells should be allowed.Moosey wrote: November 1st, 2020, 4:38 pmthere's not really any reason to restrict ourselves to GoL-- after all, we can just emulate the rule we have a failed ship in using 0E0P metacells
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Re: Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
[quote=MathAndCode post_id=108798 time=1604278708 user_id=2486]
[quote=Moosey post_id=108779 time=1604263118 user_id=2095]there's not really any reason to restrict ourselves to GoL-- after all, we can just emulate the rule we have a failed ship in using [wiki]0E0P metacell[/wiki]s
[/quote]But if that is allowed, then one must allow a meta-meta-failed spaceship, which would last even longer, as well as meta-meta-meta-spaceships, which would last for even longer, etc…, so there would be no upper bound. Therefore, I do not think that metacells should be allowed.
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[quote=Moosey post_id=108779 time=1604263118 user_id=2095]there's not really any reason to restrict ourselves to GoL-- after all, we can just emulate the rule we have a failed ship in using [wiki]0E0P metacell[/wiki]s
[/quote]But if that is allowed, then one must allow a meta-meta-failed spaceship, which would last even longer, as well as meta-meta-meta-spaceships, which would last for even longer, etc…, so there would be no upper bound. Therefore, I do not think that metacells should be allowed.
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Re: Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
Indeed happened before.wwei23 wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 8:36 am I think your quote tags broke.
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Re: Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
I don't think that this qualifies, but I found it amusing anyways.
EDIT: This P298 is actually really cool, it uses a 3c/10 engine that turns back and forth, although I don't think it qualifies either.
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2ei3-ackr4kt5ceny6c7c/S1c2ace3ajr4anz5acjky6ae7e8
3bo2$ob3obo$ob3obo2$3bo$2b3o!
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x = 11, y = 63, rule = B2ei3-ackr4t5ejy6ac/S1c2ace3ajr4akqtyz5ky6ik7e8
5bo$4bobo$4bobo$5bo14$5bo2$2bob3obo$2bob3obo2$5bo$4b3o15$4b3o$4bobo$4b
obo$4bobo$4b3o4$o9bo$o2bo3bo2bo2$2b2o3b2o$3b5o$3b2ob2o2$3bo3bo$4b3o$bo
b5obo$2ob5ob2o$3bo3bo$4bobo$4bobo$5bo$4b3o$4b3o!
Re: Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
Failure by indefinite expansion. Does it count?
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x = 12, y = 5, rule = B3-er4ant5einr6i/S2-ac34in
2b7o$o9bo$11bo$o10bo$b11o!
Replicator thread: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6769
Fractal thread: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6675
LWTDS is unfun.
Fractal thread: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6675
LWTDS is unfun.
Re: Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
No,failed spaceships evolving into any emitter should not be allowed I think.wwei47 wrote: March 6th, 2021, 8:01 pm Failure by indefinite expansion. Does it count?Code: Select all
x = 12, y = 5, rule = B3-er4ant5einr6i/S2-ac34in 2b7o$o9bo$11bo$o10bo$b11o!
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Re: Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
Does this count?
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x = 4, y = 25, rule = B3-cek4-ceijz5-aik6cik7e/S2-ac3-y4ejktz5ck6e
bo$o2bo$o2bo$o2bo$b3o16$b3o$o2bo$o2bo$o2bo$bo!
Replicator thread: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6769
Fractal thread: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6675
LWTDS is unfun.
Fractal thread: https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6675
LWTDS is unfun.
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Re: Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
I am not a maker of this but I guess that puffers probably should not count as BokaBB said. I do not know what is in BokaBB's mind,however. Also,he is banned and I cannot ask him.wwei47 wrote: March 20th, 2021, 11:52 am Does this count?Code: Select all
x = 4, y = 25, rule = B3-cek4-ceijz5-aik6cik7e/S2-ac3-y4ejktz5ck6e bo$o2bo$o2bo$o2bo$b3o16$b3o$o2bo$o2bo$o2bo$bo!
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Re: Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
38868 and exactly 39890. I would say that it would actually be 40198(or even 40200!). The c/2 growth stops at 40205.BokaBB wrote: October 26th, 2020, 2:02 pmThose from B01245/S01245 just hit the wall,nothing else.MathAndCode wrote: October 26th, 2020, 1:41 pm The switch engine on its own lasts for about 1,200 generations, but I found a couple of ways to make it last for longer.MathAndCode wrote: October 8th, 2020, 8:10 pmCode: Select all
x = 29, y = 24, rule = B3/S23 bobo$o$bo2bo$3b3o5$14bobo4b4obo$14bo2b2o2bo5b2o$16bob3obo2b4o$14b3obob5o2b2o$13b4ob2o3bo4bo$14bo2bo3b2ob4o$13bo4b4obo2bobo$14bobob2ob2obobobo$13b2ob7o2b2obo$14b2obo2bo2bo2bo$14bo2bob2obo3bobo$15bo2bo2b2o2b3o$13bo2bob3o5b2o$15bobobo2b2obo$15bob2o6b4o$13bo5b2o2bo3bo!As for other cellular autonoma, B01245/S01245 has spaceships that can last for tens of thousands of generations before failing.MathAndCode wrote: October 8th, 2020, 8:10 pmCode: Select all
x = 29, y = 24, rule = B3/S23 bobo$o$bo2bo$3b3o5$13b2o2bobo2bo4bo$14bobob3obo3b2o$15bo4bo2b2ob2o$13bob3ob2o2bob4o$13b2obo2bob3o3bo$16bo2b5o2bobo$17bo2b2obobob2o$14b3obobo3b3obo$14b4o2b3ob3obo$15b2o2bobo2b2o2bo$14bobobo3b3o2b2o$13b2ob2obo2b2o3b2o$13b2o2bobob3ob3o$14b4o4b3obo$13b4obob2obo2bo$17bo4bo2b4o!MathAndCode wrote: September 7th, 2020, 5:10 pmThe spearheders on the left and right are stable, but the middle one is not. Playing the LifeViewer to when the spaceships going direction up go off the screen reveals that the spearheader family includes a replicator.Code: Select all
x = 50, y = 4095, rule = B01245/S01245 4048$46b3o$45bobobo$45b5o$45b5o$47bo$47bo$46b3o$46bobo31$b3o20b3o$obobo18bobobo$5o17bob3obo$5o17b7o$b2obo17b7o$2bo19b7o$22b7o$22b7o$24b5o!
Many spearheaders are methuselahs. For example, the middle spearheader in the above LifeViewer takes 24,987 generations to stabilize—if the word stabilize is even applicable given that it spawned a replicator beforehand. The spearheader that lasts the longest that I know of lasts for 40,126 generations before dying.It starts with four eyes, but it goes down to three eyes around generation 38870 (just after birthing another three-eyed spearheader, which soon dies from crashing into some debris that its parent had left) then two eyes around generation 39890. (Spearheaders with more eyes tend to be more stable, but they can have a maximum of four eyes. In fact, the two times that the spearheader loses the eye are because it tried to get three eyes on one side.) Also, the spearheader birthed several other spearheaders before dying (although most died shortly afterward), so there might also be another replicator. It's actually fairly common for spearheaders that live for long enough to birth other spearheaders. For example, there's another spearheader that I found that may be a methuselah lasting longer than the one above, but I gave up on tracking it after it became four spearheaders.Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 6, rule = B01245/S01245 2b3o$bobobo$ob3obo$7o$7o$6o!Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 13, rule = B01245/S01245 2b3o$bobobo$b5o$b5o$b5o$b5o$3b4o$4b2o$ob2o$2o3b2o$o2bob2o$bobo$4b2o!
They are stable. Is there a way to make sides loop in LifeViewer?
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Re: Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
a r g h I've posted this in "Spaceship discussion thread"
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x = 9, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$6bo$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo$b2o$bo$b4o$2o2b2o$5bo$5b2o$6bo$3b4o$2b2o2b
2o$2bo$b2o$bo$b4o$2o2b2o$5bo$5b2o$6bo$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo$b2o$bo$b4o$2o
2b2o$5bo$5b2o$6bo$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo$b2o$bo$b4o$2o2b2o$5bo$5b2o$6bo$3b
4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo$b2o$bo$b4o$2o2b2o$5bo$5b2o!
Roaming OCA randomly.
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x = 23, y = 11, rule = B2n3-jknr4ky5-eqry6ik7c8/S234cktwz5ai6-ci7c
2bo2b3o2bo7bo2bo$b2ob5ob2o6b2ob2o$2bo2b3o2bo7bo2bo4$10b2o$b3o5bobo$2o
b2o4b3o$b3o5bobo$10b2o!
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Re: Failed Spaceship Challenge(Game)
Loses one eye in generation 50790; loses another at generation 51186 and c/2 forward movement finally stops at generation 51376:
This post can be moved to B01245/S01245 Spearheaders or deleted.
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x = 7, y = 8, rule = B01245/S01245
2b3o$bobobo$ob3obo$7o$7o$obo2b2o$b4o$2bo!My rules:
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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3-k/S23
2o3b2o$obo2bobo$2bo2bo$bo$b2o!