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[LLAMASKYWALKER]

HW volcano eating a glider :

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x = 36, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
27bo$26b4o$9b2o14b2obobo3b2o$bo7bo2bo11b3obo2bo2b2o$o3b2o7bo11b2obobo
$o5bo6bo12b4o$b5o7bo7bo5bo$9bo2bo9bo$9b2o9b3o2$21b2o2$14bo3bo6bo3bo$12b
3o2bo8bo2b3o$11bo3b3o3b2o3b3o3bo$11bob2ob5o2b5ob2obo$10b2obo6b4o6bob2o
$14b5obo2bob5o$19b2o2b2o$16b2obo4bob2o$16bo2bo4bo2bo$17bobo4bobo$12b2o
bobob6obobob2o$12bob2ob2o2b2o2b2ob2obo$17bo8bo$17bobo4bobo$18b2o4b2o!

EDIT by dvgrn: It's been mentioned before that one of the rules around here is to avoid posting several times in quick succession in the same forum, if it can be avoided. It can usually be avoided by clicking the edit button on a previous post, and adding your new material there.

[Aleph]

Interesting coincidence between three different known rotors:

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x = 41, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
6bo13bo13bo$5bobo11bobo11bobo$4bobobo9bobobo9bobobo$4bobobo9bobobo9bo
bobo$2b2ob2o2b2o5b2ob3ob2o5b2ob2ob3o$bo2bo6bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo6bo$ob
3o3b3obobob3o3b3obobob3o3b3obo$bo6bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo6bo2bo$2b2o2b2o
b2o5b2ob3ob2o5b3ob2ob2o$4bobobo9bobobo9bobobo$4bobobo9bobobo9bobobo$5b
obo11bobo11bobo$6bo13bo13bo!

[yujh]

i call this rule "amoebic" becaues it looks a bit like a bunch of amoebas:

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Just a reminder that these go to the OCA(or sandbox,because it is absolutely known, searched with scripts, and might be already posted)
The patterns just contain patterns in CGOL, or B3/S23, so any pattern starting with

x = 0,y = 0,rule = B3/S23

[hotcrystal0]

Two HF predecessors colliding lasts for 10720 gens

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x = 12, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
10bo$9bobo$9b3o$10bo3$b3o$o2bo$b2o!

[Aleph]

Two HF predecessors colliding lasts for 10720 gens

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x = 12, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
10bo$9bobo$9b3o$10bo3$b3o$o2bo$b2o!

Reducton:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = Life
9bo$8bobo$9b2o2$8bo2$bo$ob2o$b2o!

[JP21]

Reducton:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = Life
9bo$8bobo$9b2o2$8bo2$bo$ob2o$b2o!

That actually only last for 136 generations.

Two HF predecessors colliding lasts for 10720 gens

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x = 12, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
10bo$9bobo$9b3o$10bo3$b3o$o2bo$b2o!

Here's a true reduction (at least one of them):

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x = 12, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$2o5bo2b2o$2bo3bo$2b2o$bo!

[Aleph]

Reducton:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = Life
9bo$8bobo$9b2o2$8bo2$bo$ob2o$b2o!

That actually only last for 136 generations.

Corrected reduction:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = Life
9bo$8bobo$9b2o2$8bo2$b2o$ob2o$bo!

EDIT: Apparently the first "stdin" soup for HWSS produces a sprayer and an HWSS and nothing else. That's literally what the symmetry is called:

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x = 52, y = 120, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$2b2o$4b2obo$2bo3b3ob2o$b6ob2o2bo$2ob2o4bo$o4bo6bobo$5o4b3o2bo$3ob
o4b2o$5b2o2bobo$bo3b2o3b2o$6bo3bo2bobo$9b3o2b3o$9b2obo$11bob3ob2o$9bo
2bo$8b2obo2bobo$8b2o2b3o$9bo2bo2bobo$9b2obob2o2b2o$11bob3o$17b3o$18b2o
2$10b2o6bo2bo$10b2obo4b4o$11b2o3b5o$11bo3b2o$11b2o4bo$11bo4b2o$9b5o2bo
2bo$12bo5b2o$11b2o6bob3o$12bo4b2o3b2o$15b4o$18b3o$19bo4bo$19b7o$22bob
2o$18b3o3b2o$21bo5bo$18b2ob3o2bo$17b2o3b2ob2o$17bobo2bobobobo$18b2ob5o
3bo$18b2o3bo2bobo$19bo2bo$20bo$19b3o$18bo$18bob3o$23bo$17bo6bo$16b2obo
3bo$19bob2o$20b3o$23b2o$16b4o4bo$17b5obobo$17bo6bo$24bo2bo$24bo2bo$22b
6o$20bob2obo$20bo7bo$20bo4b3obo$21bo3bobo$21b2o4bobo$22b2obob2o$23bob
5o$21bob2o2bo$24bo$21bo4bo2bo$22bo3b2o$26bo$24b2o$23b2o4bo$24bo3bobo$
24bo2bo3b2o$27bobo2$29b2obobo$31bo2bo$31b2o$32bob2o2$32bo$34b2ob2o$34b
o2b2o2$31bo2bo5bo$32b2o5b4o$34bo4b2ob2o2$36bo$38b4o$38bobo$37bo2bo$38b
o$38bo$38bobo$37bo3bo$37bo$38bobob3o$42bo$42bo2bo$43bobob2o$45bo$44bob
ob2o$45bo3bo$46bo3$49b2o$50bo$47b2ob2o$47b2ob2o$45bo3b2o$45b3o$43bo4bo
!

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https://catagolue.hatsya.com/hashsoup/stdin/l_Czrh8kxmj7wS-3b2o$2b2o$4b2obo$2bo3b3ob2o$b6ob2o2bo$2ob2o4bo$o4bo6bobo$5o4b3o2bo$3ob-o4b2o$5b2o2bobo$bo3b2o3b2o$6bo3bo2bobo$9b3o2b3o$9b2obo$11bob3ob2o$9bo-2bo$8b2obo2bobo$8b2o2b3o$9bo2bo2bobo$9b2obob2o2b2o$11bob3o$17b3o$18b2o-2$10b2o6bo2bo$10b2obo4b4o$11b2o3b5o$11bo3b2o$11b2o4bo$11bo4b2o$9b5o2bo-2bo$12bo5b2o$11b2o6bob3o$12bo4b2o3b2o$15b4o$18b3o$19bo4bo$19b7o$22bob-2o$18b3o3b2o$21bo5bo$18b2ob3o2bo$17b2o3b2ob2o$17bobo2bobobobo$18b2ob5o-3bo$18b2o3bo2bobo$19bo2bo$20bo$19b3o$18bo$18bob3o$23bo$17bo6bo$16b2obo-3bo$19bob2o$20b3o$23b2o$16b4o4bo$17b5obobo$17bo6bo$24bo2bo$24bo2bo$22b-6o$20bob2obo$20bo7bo$20bo4b3obo$21bo3bobo$21b2o4bobo$22b2obob2o$23bob-5o$21bob2o2bo$24bo$21bo4bo2bo$22bo3b2o$26bo$24b2o$23b2o4bo$24bo3bobo$-24bo2bo3b2o$27bobo2$29b2obobo$31bo2bo$31b2o$32bob2o2$32bo$34b2ob2o$34b-o2b2o2$31bo2bo5bo$32b2o5b4o$34bo4b2ob2o2$36bo$38b4o$38bobo$37bo2bo$38b-o$38bo$38bobo$37bo3bo$37bo$38bobob3o$42bo$42bo2bo$43bobob2o$45bo$44bob-ob2o$45bo3bo$46bo3$49b2o$50bo$47b2ob2o$47b2ob2o$45bo3b2o$45b3o$43bo4bo!/b3s23

Edit 2: That's not a sprayer, that's a Sir Robin with I forgot what minstrels.

[May13]

U-turner appears twice in the same pattern (my first attempt at 10G synthesis of xs15_cila8ozx32):

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x = 32, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
b2o27bo$b2o26bo$29b3o3$5b3o7$obo$b2o$bo3$2b3o$4bo$3bo2$5bo$5b2o$4bobo
28$30bo$29b2o$29bobo!
[[ T 97 PAUSE 2 T 230 PAUSE 2 ]]

Edit 2: That's not a sprayer, that's a Sir Robin with I forgot what minstrels.

Minstrel 5, heavyweight+wandering.

[hotcrystal0]

I was searching B+bun reactions and found this. Beacon+tempoary pulsar

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x = 28, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
24bob2o$24b3o$25bo$13b2o$12bo2bo$13b3o17$b2o$obo$bo20b2o$22b2o!

mango...?

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x = 17, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
15bo$15bo$15bo2$14b3o10$obo$obo$3o!

[LLAMASKYWALKER]

Methuselah that takes 1556 generations to stablize:

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x = 21, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
8bobo2bob2obo$7bobo2bob2obo$6bo2bobo2bo$5bob2ob2obo2bobo$4bob2o2bobo2b
obo$3bo2bob2o2bobo2bobo$5bobobobobo2bobobo$4bobobobobob2obobo$2bob2o2b
ob2obo2bo$bobo3bob2o3bobo$o2bob2o2bobobobo$2bobo3bobobo$bo5bo!

gen 1469 has an interesting house + debris to LWSS. maybe could work in a gun or conduit?

[mniemiec]

Methuselah that takes 1556 generations to stablize: ... gen 1469 has an interesting house + debris to LWSS. maybe could work in a gun or conduit?

The starting pattern is extremely unnatural, and unlikely to occur randomly, and would also be very difficult to synthesize. It also takes a long time to settle, and leaves a large amount of debris, that would need to be cleaned up.

It might be better to look at generation 1485, which has two colliding B heptominoes - which turn into two more B heptominoes plus some junk. The junk should be fairly easy to synthesize, and it turns into a block and an LWSS.

[johamwit]

Methuselah that takes 1556 generations to stabilize:
. . .

I've found that, by switching off the 1,12 celll, the stabilization takes more than twice, 4603 gens :

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x = 21, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
8.A.A2.A.2A.A$7.A.A2.A.2A.A$6.A2.A.A2.A$5.A.2A.2A.A2.A.A$4.A.2A2.A.A
2.A.A$3.A2.A.2A2.A.A2.A.A$5.A.A.A.A.A2.A.A.A$4.A.A.A.A.A.2A.A.A$2.A.
2A2.A.2A.A2.A$.A.A3.A.2A3.A.A$A2.A.2A2.A.A.A.A$2.A.A3.A.A.A$7.A!

Also, there are some interesting reactions, although I have not fully analyzed them.

[LLAMASKYWALKER]

Methuselah that takes 1556 generations to stablize: ... gen 1469 has an interesting house + debris to LWSS. maybe could work in a gun or conduit?

The starting pattern is extremely unnatural, and unlikely to occur randomly, and would also be very difficult to synthesize. It also takes a long time to settle, and leaves a large amount of debris, that would need to be cleaned up.

It might be better to look at generation 1485, which has two colliding B heptominoes - which turn into two more B heptominoes plus some junk. The junk should be fairly easy to synthesize, and it turns into a block and an LWSS.

yeah that reaction is the main reason i posted it and what i was saying could work in a gun or conduit
also traffic light predecessor and eater 1 makes a Herchel and 2 blocks

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x = 6, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
5bo$3b3o$2bo$2b2o2$2bo$bobo$o3bo$bobo$2bo!

[Aleph]

well, I think good recovery time mechanism might exist. Just need to think outside the box...

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x = 90, y = 89, rule = LifeHistory
6$50.C$49.C.C$50.C2$48.5C$43.2C2.C4.C11.C$43.C2.C.BCB5.5B.3C$44.C.C.
2CB7.3BC$43.2C.C.4BC4.4B2C$46.C3.BCBC3.6B$46.2C2.C2BC2.7B$44.2C5.2C
10B$45.C7.10B3.2C$45.C.CB4.9B4.C$46.2C14B.BC.C$48.14B.B2C$48.16B$49.
14B$48.16B$46.18B$43.20B$41.5BC17B$41.5BCBC4B.11B$41.5B3C4B2.11B$41.
7BC4B2.14B$41.11B4.13B$41.4B10.14B$41.3B12.13B$40.2C.2B11.13B$41.C.B
12.11B$38.3C14.13B$38.C16.12B$55.13B$55.14B$50.2C3.14B$45.2A3.2C3.14B
$20.2A24.A8.2A12B$21.A13.2A6.3A9.2A12B$21.A.AB9.B2A2B4.A11.14B$22.2AB
.3B6.4B.3B3.B8.14B$24.7B2.11B2.B8.14B$24.24B6.15B$25.23B8.2C11B$24.
24B8.2C11B$22.26B6.15B$20.28B8.7B2.2B$20.ABC2B2A21B7.6B4.2B$19.BABDAC
2BAB.18B9.B$20.2BD2C2BAB2.16B$19.2B2ABDABAB2.7B.4B$18.10B4.6B2.2B$17.
4B11.6B$17.3B13.3B$15.4B12.7B$15.2A14.2A.B.2A$16.A15.A3.A$13.3A13.3A
5.3A$13.A15.A9.A17$74.3C$74.C$75.C!

I found 2 ways to eat the block at the right time and and keep progression toward promised lwss, but I can fix proper eaters where I need them. I am sure there are many other sparks that could do the trick, just no search algorithm for that task.

addendum, just saw the last post, well that works! I wish I had some block mover collection somewhere, is there such a thing? well, time for making the smallest G-to-lwss it seems ^^

A BTS fits perfectly:

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x = 64, y = 77, rule = LifeHistory
37.C$36.C.C$37.C2$35.5C$30.2C2.C4.C11.C$30.C2.C.BCB5.5B.3C$31.C.C.2CB
7.3BC$30.2C.C.4BC4.4B2C$33.C3.BCBC3.6B$33.2C2.C2BC2.7B$31.2C5.2C10B$32.
C7.10B3.2C$32.C.CB4.9B4.C$33.2C14B.BC.C$35.14B.B2C$35.16B$36.14B$35.16B
$33.18B$30.20B$28.5BC17B$28.5BCBC4B.11B$28.5B3C4B2.11B$28.7BC4B2.14B$
28.11B4.13B$28.4B10.14B$28.3B12.13B$27.2C.2B11.13B$28.C.B6.2C4.11B$25.
3C9.C4.13B$25.C6.C.2C.C4.12B$32.2C.C.2C3.13B$42.14B$36.3C3.14B$32.2A.
C2.C3.14B$7.2A24.A.2C5.2A12B$8.A13.2A6.3A9.2A12B$8.A.AB9.B2A2B4.A11.14B
$9.2AB.3B6.4B.3B3.B8.14B$11.7B2.11B2.B8.14B$11.24B6.15B$12.23B8.2C11B
$11.24B8.2C11B$9.26B6.15B$7.28B8.7B2.2B$7.ABC2B2A21B7.6B4.2B$6.BABDAC
2BAB.18B9.B$7.2BD2C2BAB2.16B$6.2B2ABDABAB2.7B.4B$5.10B4.6B2.2B$4.4B11.
6B$4.3B13.3B$2.4B12.7B$2.2A14.2A.B.2A$3.A15.A3.A$3A13.3A5.3A$A15.A9.A
17$61.3C$61.C$62.C!

[hotcrystal0]

THREE RARE OBJECTS IN ONE METHUSELAH?(paperclip, LWSS, HWSS)

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x = 42, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
b3o$3bo$2b3o33$28bo10b2o$26b2o11bobo$28bobo8bobo$30bo9bo12$21b2o$21b2o
6$b2o$obo$2o!

[hotdogPi]

THREE RARE OBJECTS IN ONE METHUSELAH?(paperclip, LWSS, HWSS)

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x = 42, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
b3o$3bo$2b3o33$28bo10b2o$26b2o11bobo$28bobo8bobo$30bo9bo12$21b2o$21b2o
6$b2o$obo$2o!

Not noteworthy. The initial Herschel + honey farm produces one rare object, the next block and ship produce a second, and another Herschel (all that's needed is a ship, actually) produces a third. Objects of this rarity aren't that rare if you choose the correct location for the next object to be hit.

[hotcrystal0]

THREE RARE OBJECTS IN ONE METHUSELAH?(paperclip, LWSS, HWSS)

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x = 42, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
b3o$3bo$2b3o33$28bo10b2o$26b2o11bobo$28bobo8bobo$30bo9bo12$21b2o$21b2o
6$b2o$obo$2o!

Not noteworthy. The initial Herschel + honey farm produces one rare object, the next block and ship produce a second, and another Herschel (all that's needed is a ship, actually) produces a third. Objects of this rarity aren't that rare if you choose the correct location for the next object to be hit.

I actually found it by accident while tampering around with the H+HF thing.

[LLAMASKYWALKER]

pattern that makes big s:

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x = 4, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
2bo$bobo$o$2o$bo$2bo!

[Pavgran]

87-cell predecessor of p230 switchable LWSS gun.

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x = 370, y = 362, rule = B3/S23
367bo$367bobo$367b2o113$247bo$246bo$246b3o138$38bo$37b2o$26bo$26b3o$
29bo7bo24bo$28b2o6b2o23b2o$53bo$50bo3bo$50bo3bo$31bo18bo2b2o$29bobo$
31bo20$71bo$70b2o4$bo$2o7$94bo$93b2o7$3b3o83b3o$89bo2bo2$2bo2bo$3b3o
83b3o7$bo$2o4$98bo$94bo2b2o$93b2o5$87b3o2$88bo4b2o$93bobo$95bo$95b2o
21$42b2o2bo$42bo3bo$42bo3bo$43bo$35bo26bo$34b2o25b2o!
[[ X -130 Y 130 Z 3.8 ]]

[NimbleRogue]

Makes the p41 wick variant work one extra time

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x = 58, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
3$11bo31bo$10bobo29bobo$11bo31bo$6b2o19bo19b2o$6b2o3bo15bo15bo3b2o$10b
obo14bo14bobo$10bobo29bobo$11bo11bo7bo11bo$22b3o5b3o$21b2ob2o3b2ob2o$
20b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$21b2ob2o3b2ob2o4$21b2ob2o3b2ob2o$20b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$21b
2ob2o3b2ob2o$22b3o5b3o$11bo11bo7bo11bo$10bobo29bobo$10bobo14bo14bobo$
6b2o3bo15bo15bo3b2o$6b2o19bo19b2o$11bo31bo$10bobo29bobo$11bo31bo!

[JP21]

Makes the p41 wick variant work one extra time

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x = 58, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
3$11bo31bo$10bobo29bobo$11bo31bo$6b2o19bo19b2o$6b2o3bo15bo15bo3b2o$10b
obo14bo14bobo$10bobo29bobo$11bo11bo7bo11bo$22b3o5b3o$21b2ob2o3b2ob2o$
20b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$21b2ob2o3b2ob2o4$21b2ob2o3b2ob2o$20b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$21b
2ob2o3b2ob2o$22b3o5b3o$11bo11bo7bo11bo$10bobo29bobo$10bobo14bo14bobo$
6b2o3bo15bo15bo3b2o$6b2o19bo19b2o$11bo31bo$10bobo29bobo$11bo31bo!

I found that reaction before. (december 2019)

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x = 25, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
2o21b2o$2o21b2o$4b2o13b2o$3bo2bo11bo2bo$4b2o13b2o$bo21bo$obo19bobo$b2o
19b2o6$10bo3bo$10bo3bo$9bobobobo$10bo3bo$10bo3bo2$2b3o15b3o2$10bo3bo$
10bo3bo$9bobobobo$10bo3bo$10bo3bo6$b2o19b2o$obo19bobo$bo21bo$4b2o13b2o
$3bo2bo11bo2bo$4b2o13b2o$2o21b2o$2o21b2o!

Edit: Ok I see.

[dani]

Unstable puffer turns LWSS-on-MWSS 3 into Coe ship, which turns the whole thing into a stable pond puffer:

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x = 15, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
b3o$5o$3ob2o$3b2o4$12b2o$8b4ob2o$9b5o$10b3o3$10b4o$9bo3bo$13bo$b5o3bo
2bo$o4bo$5bo$o3bo$2bo$2b2o$b4o$b2ob2o$3b2o!

[hotdogPi]

Only 8,286 occurrences in C1

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x = 10, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
b2o$obo$obob2o$bobobo$3bo$3b2o$3b3o2bo$3b3obo$3b3obobo$3b2o3bo$3bo$bob
obo$obob2o$obo$b2o!

[Aleph]

Attempted P39 splitter makes clock instead:

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x = 41, y = 40, rule = Life
13b2o$bo11b2o$2bo$3o3$27bo$25b3o$14b3o7bo$24b2o2$10bo$11b2o$10b2o2$15b
o5b2o$15b2o2bo2bo$15bo2b2o4bo$18b2o6bo$18bo2b2ob3o4b2o$18bo3b5o4b2o$18b
o$19b3o2$33b2o$33b2o2$19bo$20b3o6bo$20b3o2b2obob3o$26bo4b2o6b2o$26bo3b
o8b2o$20b2o5bobo4b2o$20b2o12b2o$33bobo$32bo3bo$35bo$32bo$33b3o$35bo!

EDIT: Ridiculous 2G->2G:

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x = 41, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
bo18bo$2bo16bo$3o16b3o3$27bo$25b3o$24bo$24b2o2$10bo$11b2o$10b2o2$15bo
5b2o$15b2o2bo2bo$15bo2b2o4bo$18b2o6bo$18bo2b2ob3o4b2o$18bo3b5o4b2o$18b
o$19b3o2$33b2o$33b2o2$19bo$20b3o6bo$20b3o2b2obob3o$26bo4b2o6b2o$26bo3b
o8b2o$20b2o5bobo4b2o$20b2o12b2o$33bobo$32bo3bo$35bo$32bo$33b3o$35bo!

Edit 2: Invalid G+blinker->bi-block:

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x = 4, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o$3bo$3bo$3bo!

[C28]

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x = 29, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
16b3o$16b3o$15bobo$15b2o3$2o$2o2$22b2obo$22b2ob3o$28bo$22b2ob3o$11b2o
10bobo$11b2o10bobo$24bo!