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Re: Let's create a Semitic - like language!

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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:41 pm
BokaBB wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:37 pm There is a language without /a/?
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Hawaiian doesn't even have /s/, so you shouldn't be that surprised.
Wikipedia wrote:The open front unrounded vowel, or low front unrounded vowel, is a type of vowel sound, used in some spoken languages.
I used to learn it a bit and it has /a/.
Please give me a language without /a/ as fast as possible.
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BokaBB wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:44 pm
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:41 pm
BokaBB wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:37 pm There is a language without /a/?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
Hawaiian doesn't even have /s/, so you shouldn't be that surprised.
Wikipedia wrote:The open front unrounded vowel, or low front unrounded vowel, is a type of vowel sound, used in some spoken languages.
I used to learn it a bit and it has /a/.
Please give me a language without /a/ as fast as possible.
I have an idea for a new interesting board game!
Have a good day!

BokaBB
I've already given one.
Moosey wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:40 pm
BokaBB wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:37 pm There is a language without /a/?
Have a good day!

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of course there is, there's a lot of languages and no phoneme is in all of them-- in fact, (many dialects of) english doesn't use /a/ except in the diphthong /aɪ/ not to mention many of my conlangs have no /a/
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Moosey wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:54 pm
BokaBB wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:44 pm
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:41 pm
Hawaiian doesn't even have /s/, so you shouldn't be that surprised.
I used to learn it a bit and it has /a/.
Please give me a language without /a/ as fast as possible.
I have an idea for a new interesting board game!
Have a good day!

BokaBB
I've already given one.
Moosey wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:40 pm
BokaBB wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:37 pm There is a language without /a/?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
of course there is, there's a lot of languages and no phoneme is in all of them-- in fact, (many dialects of) english doesn't use /a/ except in the diphthong /aɪ/ not to mention many of my conlangs have no /a/
Still,that still counts as having /a/.
I have seen some claims that Proto-Indo-European had no /a/. Can you check that, please?
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BokaBB wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:56 pm
Moosey wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:54 pm
BokaBB wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:44 pm
I used to learn it a bit and it has /a/.
Please give me a language without /a/ as fast as possible.
I have an idea for a new interesting board game!
Have a good day!

BokaBB
I've already given one.
Moosey wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:40 pm

of course there is, there's a lot of languages and no phoneme is in all of them-- in fact, (many dialects of) english doesn't use /a/ except in the diphthong /aɪ/ not to mention many of my conlangs have no /a/
Still,that still counts as having /a/.
I have seen some claims that Proto-Indo-European had no /a/. Can you check that, please?
Have a good day!

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A language containing a diphthong phoneme doesn't necessarily have the vowels within the diphthong under a sensible definition, but ok

Here's a language without /a/: https://phoible.org/inventories/view/2372

Re: proto-indo-european: disputably
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BokaBB wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:44 pm Please give me a language without /a/ as fast as possible.
Turkish.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 29th, 2021, 6:20 pm
BokaBB wrote: January 29th, 2021, 1:44 pm Please give me a language without /a/ as fast as possible.
Turkish.
Without /a/.... Still it has some a - like sounds,yes?
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BokaBB wrote: January 29th, 2021, 6:37 pm Without /a/.... Still it has some a - like sounds,yes?
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We have /ä/ and /æ/. Wikipedia doesn't mention Turkish on the page for /a/, but the page for Turkish morphology says that it does have it, so I guess I was wrong. But /a/ is nowhere near a ubiquitous sound.
Long story short, don't assume things for languages.
Example: Some don't even have numbers.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 29th, 2021, 6:45 pm But /a/ is nowhere near a ubiquitous sound.
it actually appears in over 80% of languages, so it is quite common. But no sound appears in all languages, not even /m/ :mrgreen:
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Moosey wrote: January 29th, 2021, 7:18 pm it actually appears in over 80% of languages, so it is quite common. But no sound appears in all languages, not even /m/ :mrgreen:
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Re: Let's create a Semitic - like language!

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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 29th, 2021, 6:45 pm
BokaBB wrote: January 29th, 2021, 6:37 pm Without /a/.... Still it has some a - like sounds,yes?
Have a good day!

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We have /ä/ and /æ/. Wikipedia doesn't mention Turkish on the page for /a/, but the page for Turkish morphology says that it does have it, so I guess I was wrong. But /a/ is nowhere near a ubiquitous sound.
Long story short, don't assume things for languages.
Example: Some don't even have numbers.
Our old friend Pirahã....
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Please don't forget about this language!
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MAKE THIS LANGUAGE!MAKE THIS LANGUAGE!MAKE THIS LANGUAGE!
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