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Re: Let's create a Semitic - like language!

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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 19th, 2021, 9:03 am
BokaBB wrote: January 19th, 2021, 8:58 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 19th, 2021, 8:53 am
I say it's written with letters in a word being written together, spaces between words, and written in columns up -> down left -> right. We will also evolve it over time so it doesn't necessarily have to be an abjad at first.
Interesting thought. However,I wish to be able to write here in that script because anything else would only be able to be handwritten ande sent in pictual messages.
D A T T
O B H H
O I I
Y U N S
O T G ?
U L
S I
T O K
H M E
I E
N -
K
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Yes, exactly like that. There are also probably some online tools for making scripts.
Edit: But the letters in a word are fused together.
Fused like in Arabic?I didn't understood that part.
Maybe like Mongolian script but with a left-to-right column orientation (Or maybe it is already like that?China traditionaly wrote in right-to-left columns and that is why I considered them to do the same too.).Mongolian script may be usable but is tricky to find for usage today since it is only used among Chinese Mongols (Mongolian ones switched to Cyrillic).
A horizontal random sample of it (I didn't found a way to write vertically):
ᠰᠳᠳᠡᠺᠡᠥᠮᠣᠨ ᠸᠨᠸᠸ ᠸᠸᠺᠡ ᠸᠢᠺᠸᠸᠳᠡᠲᠢᠨᠺᠥᠹ ᠷᠥᠷᠫᠡᠺᠳᠨᠹᠴᠪ᠃
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BokaBB wrote: January 19th, 2021, 9:13 am Fused like in Arabic?I didn't understood that part.
Maybe like Mongolian script but with a left-to-right column orientation (Or maybe it is already like that?China traditionaly wrote in right-to-left columns and that is why I considered them to do the same too.).Mongolian script may be usable but is tricky to find for usage today since it is only used among Chinese Mongols (Mongolian ones switched to Cyrillic).
A horizontal random sample of it (I didn't found a way to write vertically):
ᠰᠳᠳᠡᠺᠡᠥᠮᠣᠨ ᠸᠨᠸᠸ ᠸᠸᠺᠡ ᠸᠢᠺᠸᠸᠳᠡᠲᠢᠨᠺᠥᠹ ᠷᠥᠷᠫᠡᠺᠳᠨᠹᠴᠪ᠃
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Yes, something like Mongolian script. It might start out as an alphabet and as the language become heavily infixed, it will become an abjad.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 19th, 2021, 9:32 am
BokaBB wrote: January 19th, 2021, 9:13 am Fused like in Arabic?I didn't understood that part.
Maybe like Mongolian script but with a left-to-right column orientation (Or maybe it is already like that?China traditionaly wrote in right-to-left columns and that is why I considered them to do the same too.).Mongolian script may be usable but is tricky to find for usage today since it is only used among Chinese Mongols (Mongolian ones switched to Cyrillic).
A horizontal random sample of it (I didn't found a way to write vertically):
ᠰᠳᠳᠡᠺᠡᠥᠮᠣᠨ ᠸᠨᠸᠸ ᠸᠸᠺᠡ ᠸᠢᠺᠸᠸᠳᠡᠲᠢᠨᠺᠥᠹ ᠷᠥᠷᠫᠡᠺᠳᠨᠹᠴᠪ᠃
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Yes, something like Mongolian script. It might start out as an alphabet and as the language become heavily infixed, it will become an abjad.
Okay.
I failed to find any online script makers. Can you give me some?
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BokaBB wrote: January 19th, 2021, 9:45 am Okay.
I failed to find any online script makers. Can you give me some?
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I found this relevant reddit thread.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 19th, 2021, 11:55 am
BokaBB wrote: January 19th, 2021, 9:45 am Okay.
I failed to find any online script makers. Can you give me some?
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I found this relevant reddit thread.
It contains only one somewhat usable tool and a version of it (Grapheon).
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BokaBB wrote: January 19th, 2021, 12:17 pm It contains only one somewhat usable tool and a version of it (Grapheon).
Do you have an account on Reddit?
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No, I don't, but I've been thinking of getting one. That thread is 5 years old anyway. I'm still looking for a good writing system generator.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 19th, 2021, 12:27 pm
BokaBB wrote: January 19th, 2021, 12:17 pm It contains only one somewhat usable tool and a version of it (Grapheon).
Do you have an account on Reddit?
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No, I don't, but I've been thinking of getting one. That thread is 5 years old anyway. I'm still looking for a good writing system generator.
Thanks. I will help you how I can.
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BokaBB wrote: January 19th, 2021, 12:31 pm Thanks. I will help you how I can.
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I'm reading this right now, maybe you can look too.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 20th, 2021, 3:37 am
BokaBB wrote: January 19th, 2021, 12:31 pm Thanks. I will help you how I can.
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I'm reading this right now, maybe you can look too.
Will.
Let's start making our phonology. I doubt that too many vowels would be good.
I am not fully responsible for fall of Komal,I had no idea what are phonotactics before it. You can go back to it if you wish so.
Please ask some other people to be here.
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BokaBB wrote: January 20th, 2021, 9:06 am Will.
Let's start making our phonology. I doubt that too many vowels would be good.
I am not fully responsible for fall of Komal,I had no idea what are phonotactics before it. You can go back to it if you wish so.
I like would like to have at least /æ/, /ä/, /ə/, /o/, /ɪ/, /e/, and /ɯ/.
BokaBB wrote: January 20th, 2021, 9:06 am Please ask some other people to be here.
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I kind of doubt anyone else will be interested.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 20th, 2021, 9:25 am
BokaBB wrote: January 20th, 2021, 9:06 am Will.
Let's start making our phonology. I doubt that too many vowels would be good.
I am not fully responsible for fall of Komal,I had no idea what are phonotactics before it. You can go back to it if you wish so.
I like would like to have at least /æ/, /ä/, /ə/, /o/, /ɪ/, /e/, and /ɯ/.
BokaBB wrote: January 20th, 2021, 9:06 am Please ask some other people to be here.
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I kind of doubt anyone else will be interested.
I support presence of a sizeable number of vowels,but I am not experienced with tiny differences and I must be taught to recognize differences if we make something.
Can you please make some writing system on paper (also with Latin orthography for writing here)?I am not very creative nor capable of doing that now,but I may submit a proposal later.
I think that some people here might be interested it this project(wwei23, Entity Valkyrie 2,MathAndCode,Saka,Moosey....).
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BokaBB wrote: January 20th, 2021, 9:34 am I support presence of a sizeable number of vowels,but I am not experienced with tiny differences and I must be taught to recognize differences if we make something.
Can you please make some writing system on paper (also with Latin orthography for writing here)?I am not very creative nor capable of doing that now,but I may submit a proposal later.
Let's first decide on the sounds and then we'll make a writing system. I want to repeat that I will not make it an abjad at first.
BokaBB wrote: January 20th, 2021, 9:34 am I think that some people here might be interested it this project(wwei23, Entity Valkyrie 2,MathAndCode,Saka,Moosey....).
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wwei23 is the only one on that list that I think might be interested.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 20th, 2021, 9:39 am
BokaBB wrote: January 20th, 2021, 9:34 am I support presence of a sizeable number of vowels,but I am not experienced with tiny differences and I must be taught to recognize differences if we make something.
Can you please make some writing system on paper (also with Latin orthography for writing here)?I am not very creative nor capable of doing that now,but I may submit a proposal later.
Let's first decide on the sounds and then we'll make a writing system. I want to repeat that I will not make it an abjad at first.
BokaBB wrote: January 20th, 2021, 9:34 am I think that some people here might be interested it this project(wwei23, Entity Valkyrie 2,MathAndCode,Saka,Moosey....).
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wwei23 is the only one on that list that I think might be interested.
Okay. Let's first make sounds.
Please teach me to differ similar vowels. They say they vary in height in position,but I am super weirded (yes,I know that is likely not a word,but I have right to be linguistically creative)that people were thinking in the past that they matter.
Try everyone I mentioned and all friends, maybe some will accept. Just DON'T BE ANNOYING.
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BokaBB wrote: January 20th, 2021, 9:45 am Okay. Let's first make sounds.
Please teach me to differ similar vowels. They say they vary in height in position,but I am super weirded (yes,I know that is likely not a word,but I have right to be linguistically creative)that people were thinking in the past that they matter.
Look at the Wikipedia IPA audio charts. If you still cannot pronounce them or tell the difference, look it up. That link I provided also gave some good explanations about what certain phonetic terms mean.
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Let's discuss phonology.
To me /ä/ actually sounds even more a-ish than /a/ and /o/ sounds like u or something. Or speakers there are idiots or maybe even robots, which I see as more probable. Also,their /ɪ/ is more like e than a mix of /i/ and /j/. What I know where their brains were.
Do you maybe know the reason?
What consonants you would like to be present?
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BokaBB wrote: January 22nd, 2021, 1:53 pm Let's discuss phonology.
To me /ä/ actually sounds even more a-ish than /a/ and /o/ sounds like u or something. Also,their /ɪ/ is more like e than a mix of /i/ and /j/.
Do you maybe know the reason?
What consonants you would like to be present?
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There is no reason really. They're arbitrarily chosen. Consonants should be a bit easier.
BokaBB wrote: January 22nd, 2021, 1:53 pm Or speakers there are idiots or maybe even robots, which I see as more probable.
BokaBB wrote: January 22nd, 2021, 1:53 pmWhat I know where their brains were.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 22nd, 2021, 5:34 pm
BokaBB wrote: January 22nd, 2021, 1:53 pm Let's discuss phonology.
To me /ä/ actually sounds even more a-ish than /a/ and /o/ sounds like u or something. Also,their /ɪ/ is more like e than a mix of /i/ and /j/.
Do you maybe know the reason?
What consonants you would like to be present?
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There is no reason really. They're arbitrarily chosen. Consonants should be a bit easier.
BokaBB wrote: January 22nd, 2021, 1:53 pm Or speakers there are idiots or maybe even robots, which I see as more probable.
BokaBB wrote: January 22nd, 2021, 1:53 pmWhat I know where their brains were.
What?
Ignore that last part.
What do you think about implosives?
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Please check a website called Fonstruct or something like that. You can make fonts there.
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BokaBB wrote: January 23rd, 2021, 4:49 am Ignore that last part.
What do you think about implosives?
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I'm trying to learn how to pronounce them.
BokaBB wrote: January 23rd, 2021, 8:08 am Please check a website called Fonstruct or something like that. You can make fonts there.
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I'll look at it now.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 23rd, 2021, 10:24 am
BokaBB wrote: January 23rd, 2021, 4:49 am Ignore that last part.
What do you think about implosives?
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I'm trying to learn how to pronounce them.
BokaBB wrote: January 23rd, 2021, 8:08 am Please check a website called Fonstruct or something like that. You can make fonts there.
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I'll look at it now.
Thanks!
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BokaBB wrote: January 23rd, 2021, 10:33 am Thanks!
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I just created an account under the same name as mine here. I will try to learn some basic stuff now.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 23rd, 2021, 11:10 am
BokaBB wrote: January 23rd, 2021, 10:33 am Thanks!
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I just created an account under the same name as mine here. I will try to learn some basic stuff now.
Edit: What should I call the font?
Maybe ,,Semitic - like language prroject:script" or something like that.
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BokaBB wrote: January 23rd, 2021, 11:18 am Maybe ,,Semitic - like language prroject:script" or something like that.
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I will call it "Semitic-like conlang early script". Early means that it's the first script used for this language.
Edit: We should figure out the sounds first. Are my vowels okay? I'll start with them for now.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: January 23rd, 2021, 11:20 am
BokaBB wrote: January 23rd, 2021, 11:18 am Maybe ,,Semitic - like language prroject:script" or something like that.
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I will call it "Semitic-like conlang early script". Early means that it's the first script used for this language.
Edit: We should figure out the sounds first. Are my vowels okay? I'll start with them for now.
Yes,they are very okay.
What do you think about /dz/?It is pronounced like /d/ and /z/ quickly pronounced together. I can pronounce it problemlessly and it is present in Macedonian language,which is similar to Serbian.
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BokaBB wrote: January 23rd, 2021, 12:00 pm Yes,they are very okay.
What do you think about /dz/?It is pronounced like /d/ and /z/ quickly pronounced together. I can pronounce it problemlessly and it is present in Macedonian language,which is similar to Serbian.
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Those are called affricates, they start with a plosive and end with a fricative. We can have more of
them like /ts/, /t̠ʃ/, and /d̠ʒ/.
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