That century reaction requires better fallback than most reactions, as the period must be at least sixteen. Jason's p22 is the only sparker that I know of that works.wwei23 wrote: December 8th, 2020, 8:20 pm Since then, I've realized the real strength of my P9 heavyweight emulator: Its fallback is far greater than its supporting sparker (It falls back at 3c for 2 generations straight, when the supporting sparker never falls back more than two cells). Even in the century reaction where it failed, the supporting sparker broke first.
Oscillator Discussion Thread
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I see, thanks for elaborating. I've never thought about "fallback time", which gets important as the period gets higher.MathAndCode wrote:(Useful information regarding fallback)
(I've tinkered mainly with period <= 7 searches, where "fallback distance" is more important, because "fallback time" is all kinda terrible and is somewhat related to "fallback distance")
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Yes, the current method is only good for low-period oscillators. Our best hope for finding high-period oscillators is hassling regions that commonly form and hoping that they happen to form in the same place. One possibility for a sparker with good fallback would be to find a way to hassle this somewhat common active object.Scorbie wrote: December 8th, 2020, 8:58 pmI see, thanks for elaborating. I've never thought about "fallback time", which gets important as the period gets higher.
(I've tinkered mainly with period <= 7 searches, where "fallback distance" is more important, because "fallback time" is all kinda terrible and is somewhat related to "fallback distance")
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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
Does anyone have a sparker collection or something? jslife and osc-supplement are terribly out-of-date at this point. 
Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
Smallest most isolated dot/domino sparks for each periods:
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x = 148, y = 77, rule = B3/S23
105bo29b2o$46bo27b2o$14b2o2$4b2o3bob2o4b2obo3b2o14bo2bo5bo2bo12b2o3b2o
6b2o3b2o14bo2b2obob2o2bo14b2ob2ob2o4b2ob2ob2o$3bo3bobo3b4o3bobo3bo11b
2o2bob5obo2b2o10bo2bo3b6o3bo2bo12b5o2bobo2b5o12bo5bob4obo5bo$3bobo5bo
2b2o2bo5bobo13bo11bo13b3o12b3o12bo4b2obobob2o4bo12b4obo2b2o2bob4o$2b2o
6b2o2b2o2b2o6b2o10bob2o9b2obo17b6o19b3o11b3o10b3o4b2o6b2o4b3o$bo2b3o4b
2o4b2o4b3o2bo7bobo3b3o3b3o3bobo9b4ob2ob2ob2ob4o16bob7obo13bo2bo2b3o2b
2o2b3o2bo2bo$b2o4b3o3b4o3b3o4b2o6b3obo13bob3o7bo5bo2b2o2bo5bo12b3o11b
3o12bobobo3bo2bo3bobobo$3b3ob3o10b3ob3o18bobo18b2obo2bo4bo2bob2o12bo2b
o11bo2bo10b2o6b2o2b2o6b2o$b2o5bo4b4o4bo5b2o10b3o3bobo3b3o12b2o2b3o4b3o
2b2o11bob2ob3o5b3ob2obo10bob2ob3o4b3ob2obo$2bobo3b2o10b2o3bobo11bo2bo
3bo3bo2bo11b2o3bob2o2b2obo3b2o10bo3b4ob3ob4o3bo8bo2b2o3b2o4b2o3b2o2bo$
bo2b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o2bo9b4o2bobobo2b4o10bo3b2o8b2o3bo11bob2o4b3o4b2o
bo9b2ob2o5bo2bo5b2ob2o$2b2o3b2o3b6o3b2o3b2o10b2o2b3obob3o2b2o10bo18bo
9bobobob4o3b4obobobo10bo3b2ob4ob2o3bo$3bobo4b2o2b2o2b2o4bobo10bo3bo3bo
bo3bo3bo9b2o16b2o8bobobo2bo3bobo3bo2bobobo6b2obo2b2o3b2o3b2o2bob2o$3bo
b2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo11bo2bobobobobobo2bo10b2ob2o2bo4bo2b2ob2o8bobo3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o3bobo6b2obo4bobo2bobo4bob2o$2b2o2bob5o4b5obo2b2o11bobob2o
3b2obobo15bobo2b2o2bobo13b2obob2obo5bob2obob2o10bob2ob2o4b2ob2obo$bo2b
ob2o4b6o4b2obo2bo11bo11bo12b2ob2o3b4o3b2ob2o11b2o4bo5bo4b2o12bob3o8b3o
bo$2bobobobobo8bobobobobo37bo3bobo6bobo3bo7b3o3bo3b2o3b2o3bo3b3o5b2obo
4bob4obo4bob2o$b2obo6b3o2b3o6bob2o37b2obo3bo2bo3bob2o8bo2b5o4bobo4b5o
2bo5bo2b4o10b4o2bo$4b2o2b2o3bo2bo3b2o2b2o42bob2ob4ob2obo11bobo3bobob2o
b2obobo3bobo8bo7bo2bo7bo$b2obo2bo2b3o4b3o2bo2bob2o39bo3bo4bo3bo10b2o2b
o2b3o3bo3b3o2bo2b2o8b3o2bobo2bobo2b3o$bo3b2o2bo10bo2b2o3bo38b2o3bob2ob
o3b2o11bobob6obob6obobo13bo2b2o2b2o2bo$2b3o5bo8bo5b3o45b2obo17bo2bobo
4bobo4bobo2bo10b8o2b8o$4bo4b2o8b2o4bo67b2o3b3o3bobo3b3o3b2o8bo4b2o6b2o
4bo$103b2ob2o18b2o4bob4obo4b2o$98b3o9b3o11b2o2bo5bo2bo5bo2b2o$95b2o17b
2o9bob2o2b2obo2bob2o2b2obo$95bob2obo4bo4bob2obo9bo2bobob3o2b3obobo2bo$
92b2obob2ob2o2bobo2b2ob2obob2o7bobobo2bo4bo2bobobo$14b2o77bobobo6bobo
6bobobo9b2o3bo6bo3b2o$93bobobo5b2ob2o5bobobo11b2o10b2o$4b2o3bob2o4b2ob
o3b2o66b2obobo2bobo2bo2bobo2bobob2o8b2o4b2o2b2o4b2o$3bo3bobo3b4o3bobo
3bo68bo7bobobo7bo12bobo2b2o2b2o2bobo$3bobo5bo2b2o2bo5bobo68b2o2bob3obo
b3obo2b2o12bobo2bo4bo2bobo$2obo6b2o2b2o2b2o6bob2o70bo4bo4bo14b2ob2ob3o
4b3ob2ob2o$bo2b3o4b2o4b2o4b3o2bo73b2obob2o16bobo3bob2o2b2obo3bobo$bo5b
3o3b4o3b3o5bo71bo2bobobo2bo17b4ob2o2b2ob4o$2b4ob3o10b3ob4o72b3o2bo2b3o
15b2o16b2o$8bo4b4o4bo81b2ob2o17bo2bo2b2o6b2o2bo2bo$4bo3b2o10b2o3bo75b
2o2bo2b2o16bobo14bobo$4b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o71b2obo2bobobo2bob2o13bo4bo
6bo4bo$2b2o3b2o3b6o3b2o3b2o69b2o2b2obobob2o2b2o14b3o2bo4bo2b3o$3bobo4b
2o2b2o2b2o4bobo67b2obo4bo2bo2bo4bob2o14bobo4bobo$3bob2obobo3b2o3bobob
2obo68bob2o3bo5bo3b2obo12b2o4bo2bo4b2o$2b2o2bob5o4b5obo2b2o67bob2obob
2o3b2obob2obo13b3o2bo2bo2b3o$bo2bob2o4b6o4b2obo2bo65b2o4b2o7b2o4b2o10b
o16bo$2bobobobobo8bobobobobo67bo2bo2bo7bo2bo2bo11b6obo2bob6o$b2obo6b3o
2b3o6bob2o66bobo2b2obo3bob2o2bobo18b4o$4bo3b2o3bo2bo3b2o3bo68b2obo4b2o
3b2o4bob2o12b14o$4bo2bo2b3o4b3o2bo2bo72b3o9b3o15bobo4b2o4bobo$5b3o2bo
8bo2b3o75bob2o3b2obo17bo5b4o5bo$101bobo3bobo15b2obob2o3b2o3b2obob2o$5b
2obo12bob2o101bobo3bo6bo3bobo$5bob2o12b2obo101bo2b2obobo2bobob2o2bo$
127bobo12bobo$126b2o2b3obo2bob3o2b2o$128bobo10bobo$128bobo4b2o4bobo$
129bo4b4o4bo$134b4o$134bo2bo$130bo2bo4bo2bo$130b4o4b4o2$132bobo2bobo$
130b3ob4ob3o$129bo12bo$129bob2obo2bob2obo$130b2o8b2o$133b2o2b2o$134bo
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Crossposting a new p18 R hassler using reactions found by hotdogPi (including wwei's new P9 HW emulator):
(Only the weld is my discovery.)
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x = 21, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
3bob2o4b2obo$3b2o2bo2bo2b2o$b2o3bo4bo3b2o$o3b2ob4ob2o3bo$b3obobo2bobo
b3o$3bobob4obobo$5bo2b2o2bo$6b2o2b2o3$4b2o6b2o$4bobo4bobo$5b2o4b2o$8b
2o$3b5o2b5o$2bo12bo$3b3o6b3o$6bo4bo$3b3ob4ob3o$2bo2bo6bo2bobo$2b2o10b
2ob3o$6bo8bo4bo$10bo3bo2b3o$14bo2bo4$10b3o$10bo$10bo$14b2obo$8b2o4b2o
b3o$6bo4bo8bo$2b2o10b2ob3o$2bo2bo6bo2bobo$3b3ob4ob3o$6bo4bo$3b3o6b3o$
2bo12bo$3b5o2b5o$8b2o$5b2o4b2o$4bobo4bobo$4b2o6b2o3$6b2o2b2o$5bo2b2o2b
o$3bobob4obobo$b3obobo2bobob3o$o3b2ob4ob2o3bo$b2o3bo4bo3b2o$3b2o2bo2b
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wwei23
Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
That has a tiny spark capable of catalysis. (Also, a P9 spark isn't actually needed here. A suitable P6 spark would work as well.)
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x = 24, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
6bob2o4b2obo$6b2o2bo2bo2b2o$4b2o3bo4bo3b2o$3bo3b2ob4ob2o3bo$4b3obobo2b
obob3o$6bobob4obobo$8bo2b2o2bo$9b2o2b2o3$7b2o6b2o$7bobo4bobo$8b2o4b2o
$11b2o$6b5o2b5o$5bo12bo$6b3o6b3o$9bo4bo$6b3ob4ob3o$5bo2bo6bo2bobo$5b2o
10b2ob3o$9bo8bo4bo$13bo3bo2b3o$17bo2bo$2bo$o3bo$5bo$o4bo7b3o$b5o7bo$13b
o$17b2obo$11b2o4b2ob3o$9bo4bo8bo$5b2o10b2ob3o$5bo2bo6bo2bobo$6b3ob4ob
3o$9bo4bo$6b3o6b3o$5bo12bo$6b5o2b5o$11b2o$8b2o4b2o$7bobo4bobo$7b2o6b2o
3$9b2o2b2o$8bo2b2o2bo$6bobob4obobo$4b3obobo2bobob3o$3bo3b2ob4ob2o3bo$
4b2o3bo4bo3b2o$6b2o2bo2bo2b2o$6bob2o4b2obo!Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
I'm mistaken on what you mean, right?wwei23 wrote: December 10th, 2020, 3:12 pm (Also, a P9 spark isn't actually needed here. A suitable P6 spark would work as well.)
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x = 16, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$7bobob2o$9bobo$8bo2bo$b2ob2obobob2o$2bobo3b2o3bo$2bobo5b3o$3bob5o
$11b2o$b7o2b2obo$o12bo$b3ob4ob3o$3b8o$14b2o$14bo$12bobo$12b2o4$8b3o$8b
o$8bo$12b2o$6b2o4bobo$4bo4bo4bo$14b2o$3bo6bo$b3obob2ob3o$o4bo3bo3bo$b
5o2b2obobo$6bo2bob2o$3bob5o$2bobo5b3o$2bobo3b2o3bo$b2ob2obobob2o$8bo2b
o$9bobo$7bobob2o$7b2o!
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wwei23
Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
A domino spark without a side spark facing towards the eater would be needed.
I don't know, and it's so annoying!bubblegum wrote: December 10th, 2020, 3:30 pm (Also, since when did LifeViewer start aliasing rules upon copy?)
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What is that? I haven't noticed anything. Does it get rules mixed up?
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
It means that Golly doesn't accept the RLE.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: December 10th, 2020, 3:35 pm What is that? I haven't noticed anything. Does it get rules mixed up?
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
I agree. I recently tried to copy a pattern in LifeViewer and paste it into Golly, but Golly told me that it wasn't working because I had an unknown rule. I then pasted the RLE into a text editor, changed Conway's Life to B3S23, copied that, tried to paste it into Golly, and that worked.
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Is this for Golly 4.0? I'm still using Golly 3.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
2.8, because I was too lazy to update.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: December 10th, 2020, 3:44 pm Is this for Golly 4.0? I'm still using Golly 3.
(I do have 3.2 on my computer in case I need to use non-totalistic generations or B0 rules for some reason.
Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
It means that "Conway's Life" is not a set alias for B3/S23 in any version.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: December 10th, 2020, 3:44 pmIs this for Golly 4.0? I'm still using Golly 3.
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wwei23
Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
P7 partial:
EDIT: Changed it to say "B3/S23" instead of "Conway's Life".
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x = 45, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$10bo4bo2$10bo4bo$10bo4bo$3b2o5b2o2b2o5b2o$3bobobobobo2bobobobob
o$5bobob3o2b3obobo$4bo4bo2b2o2bo4bo$3bob4o3b2o3b4obo$3bobo6b2o6bobo$2b
2o2b3o8b3o2b2o$bo2b2o2bo8bo2b2o2bo$b2o2bo14bo2b2o$5bobob8obobo$6b2ob3o
2b3ob2o$8bo8bo$4b4o10b4o$3bo3bobobo2bobobo3bo$3bobobo3bo2bo3bobobo$4b
2obob3o2b3obob2o2$4b3o2bobo2bobo2b3o$4bo2b2ob6ob2o2bo$2o3bob2o8b2obo3b
2o$o2bobob2o8b2obobo2bo$2b2obo14bob2o$5bobo3b4o3bobo$bob2obo4b4o4bob2o
bo$b2obo3b4o2b4o3bob2o$4bob2o3bo2bo3b2obo$4bobobo2bo2bo2bobobo$5b2o4b
o2bo4b2o$7bo10bo$3b3o14b3o$3bo2bo12bo2bo$4bo16bo$b3o18b3o$bo22bo!
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It works with p13 mechanisms:velcrorex wrote: January 18th, 2015, 11:42 pm 4 worker bees and 4 pondsAlso works with snackers instead of worker bees.Code: Select all
x = 47, y = 42, rule = B3/S23 4$15bo9bo$15b3o5b3o$18bo3bo$17b2o3b2o2$20bo$20bo$20bo$20bo$20bo$20bo$ 4b2o29b2o$5bo11b2o3b2o11bo$5bobo8bo2bobo2bo8bobo$6b2o8bo2bobo2bo8b2o$ 17b2o3b2o$9b6o11b6o$17b2o3b2o$6b2o8bo2bobo2bo8b2o$5bobo8bo2bobo2bo8bob o$5bo11b2o3b2o11bo$4b2o29b2o$20bo$20bo$20bo$20bo$20bo$20bo2$17b2o3b2o$ 18bo3bo$15b3o5b3o$15bo9bo!Code: Select all
x = 37, y = 33, rule = B3/S23 15bo9bo$15b3o5b3o$18bo3bo$17b2o3b2o2$20bo$20bo$20bo$20bo$20bo$20bo$2o 33b2o$bo15b2o3b2o11bo$bobo12bo2bobo2bo8bobo$2b2o12bo2bobo2bo8b2o$7bo4b o4b2o3b2o$5b2ob4ob2o11b6o$7bo4bo4b2o3b2o$2b2o12bo2bobo2bo8b2o$bobo12bo 2bobo2bo8bobo$bo15b2o3b2o11bo$2o33b2o$20bo$20bo$20bo$20bo$20bo$20bo2$ 17b2o3b2o$18bo3bo$15b3o5b3o$15bo9bo!
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x = 47, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
20bobobobo$19bob2ob2obo$17b3o7b3o$16bo4b2ob2o4bo$16bo2b2obobob2o2bo$
15b2obobobobobobob2o$16bo2bob2ob2obo2bo$16bobo9bobo$17bo11bo2$22b3o3$
22b3o2$5bo16bobo16bo$3b5o15bo15b5o$2bo5bo29bo5bo$2bo2bobo31bobo2bo$b2o
bobo13b2o3b2o13bobob2o$o3b2o13bo2bobo2bo13b2o3bo$bobo2bo12bo2bobo2bo
12bo2bobo$2ob4o3bo2bobo4b2o3b2o4bobo2bo3b4ob2o$10bo2bo2bo13bo2bo2bo$2o
b4o3bo2bobo4b2o3b2o4bobo2bo3b4ob2o$bobo2bo12bo2bobo2bo12bo2bobo$o3b2o
13bo2bobo2bo13b2o3bo$b2obobo13b2o3b2o13bobob2o$2bo2bobo31bobo2bo$2bo5b
o29bo5bo$3b5o15bo15b5o$5bo16bobo16bo2$22b3o3$22b3o2$17bo11bo$16bobo9bo
bo$16bo2bob2ob2obo2bo$15b2obobobobobobob2o$16bo2b2obobob2o2bo$16bo4b2o
b2o4bo$17b3o7b3o$19bob2ob2obo$20bobobobo!
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wwei23
Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
You can misuse my small P5 V sparker:
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x = 121, y = 121, rule = B3/S23
60bo$58b5o$57bo5bo$55bo2b5o2bo$55b3o5b3o$58b2ob2o$55b2o7b2o$51b2obobo
bo3bobobob2o$51b2obo3b5o3bob2o$54bo2bo5bo2bo$54bob9obo$55bo2bo3bo2bo$
56b3o3b3o$59b3o$54b5obob5o$54bo11bo$55b3o5b3o$57bo5bo$58b5o$54b2o9b2o
$51bo2bo11bo2bo$50bobobo2bo5bo2bobobo$50bobobob2o5b2obobobo$51bobobob
o5bobobobo$53bobob2o3b2obobo$49bo2bobobo7bobobo2bo$49b4obobo7bobob4o$
54bo11bo$49b4obobobo3bobobob4o$49bo2bobobo7bobobo2bo$54bo2bo5bo2bo$53b
o2b2o5b2o2bo$53bobo2bo3bo2bobo$48bo8bo5bo8bo$48b3o3bo2bo5bo2bo3b3o$51b
o4b2o5b2o4bo$50bo4b2o7b2o4bo$50b2o3b2obo3bob2o3b2o$48b2o2bo2bo3bobo3b
o2bo2b2o$47bo2b2o3bo3bobo3bo3b2o2bo$47bobo2bo2bo3bobo3bo2bo2bobo$46b2o
b2o3bo11bo3b2ob2o$46bo7b2obo5bob2o7bo$47b3o5b2obo3bob2o5b3o$49bo4b2o2b
2ob2o2b2o4bo$50b4o4bobobo4b4o$41b2o12bo9bo12b2o$39b3obo4b2o10bo10b2o4b
ob3o$33b2o3bo4bo3bo2bo7b5o7bo2bo3bo4bo3b2o$25b2ob2o4bo3bob2ob2o2bo2bo
19bo2bo2b2ob2obo3bo4b2ob2o$21b2o3bobo5bob2obobo3bo2b2o21b2o2bo3bobob2o
bo5bobo3b2o$7b2o11bo2bo2bobo6bobobo5bo29bo5bobobo6bobo2bo2bo11b2o$7b2o
12b2o2b2ob2o8bobo4bo29bo4bobo8b2ob2o2b2o12b2o$23b2o6b2o12bo29bo12b2o6b
2o$7b4o3b2o3b4o2b6o3bo6b2obo31bob2o6bo3b6o2b4o3b2o3b4o$3b2obo4bo2bobo
2bo3b2o7bo3b5ob3obo27bob3ob5o3bo7b2o3bo2bobo2bo4bob2o$4bob2o2bobobobo
5bo2b2ob2obo3b3o5bo33bo5b3o3bob2ob2o2bo5bobobobo2b2obo$2bobo4b2obobob
2o3b4o5b2ob3o6bo35bo6b3ob2o5b4o3b2obobob2o4bobo$bobobob2ob3obo3bo5bo3b
o3bo4bo5b3o2bo23bo2b3o5bo4bo3bo3bo5bo3bob3ob2obobobo$bobobo2bobo2bo4b
o19b3o3bo3bo23bo3bo3b3o19bo4bo2bobo2bobobo$2obo4bobo2b2o3bo26bob2o23b
2obo26bo3b2o2bobo4bob2o$bobobo2bobo2bo4bo19b3o3bo3bo23bo3bo3b3o19bo4b
o2bobo2bobobo$bobobob2ob3obo3bo5bo3bo3bo4bo5b3o2bo23bo2b3o5bo4bo3bo3b
o5bo3bob3ob2obobobo$2bobo4b2obobob2o3b4o5b2ob3o6bo35bo6b3ob2o5b4o3b2o
bobob2o4bobo$4bob2o2bobobobo5bo2b2ob2obo3b3o5bo33bo5b3o3bob2ob2o2bo5b
obobobo2b2obo$3b2obo4bo2bobo2bo3b2o7bo3b5ob3obo27bob3ob5o3bo7b2o3bo2b
obo2bo4bob2o$7b4o3b2o3b4o2b6o3bo6b2obo31bob2o6bo3b6o2b4o3b2o3b4o$23b2o
6b2o12bo29bo12b2o6b2o$7b2o12b2o2b2ob2o8bobo4bo29bo4bobo8b2ob2o2b2o12b
2o$7b2o11bo2bo2bobo6bobobo5bo29bo5bobobo6bobo2bo2bo11b2o$21b2o3bobo5b
ob2obobo3bo2b2o21b2o2bo3bobob2obo5bobo3b2o$25b2ob2o4bo3bob2ob2o2bo2bo
19bo2bo2b2ob2obo3bo4b2ob2o$33b2o3bo4bo3bo2bo7b5o7bo2bo3bo4bo3b2o$39b3o
bo4b2o10bo10b2o4bob3o$41b2o12bo9bo12b2o$50b4o4bobobo4b4o$49bo4b2o2b2o
b2o2b2o4bo$47b3o5b2obo3bob2o5b3o$46bo7b2obo5bob2o7bo$46b2ob2o3bo11bo3b
2ob2o$47bobo2bo2bo3bobo3bo2bo2bobo$47bo2b2o3bo3bobo3bo3b2o2bo$48b2o2b
o2bo3bobo3bo2bo2b2o$50b2o3b2obo3bob2o3b2o$50bo4b2o7b2o4bo$51bo4b2o5b2o
4bo$48b3o3bo2bo5bo2bo3b3o$48bo8bo5bo8bo$53bobo2bo3bo2bobo$53bo2b2o5b2o
2bo$54bo2bo5bo2bo$49bo2bobobo7bobobo2bo$49b4obobobo3bobobob4o$54bo11b
o$49b4obobo7bobob4o$49bo2bobobo7bobobo2bo$53bobob2o3b2obobo$51bobobob
o5bobobobo$50bobobob2o5b2obobobo$50bobobo2bo5bo2bobobo$51bo2bo11bo2bo
$54b2o9b2o$58b5o$57bo5bo$55b3o5b3o$54bo11bo$54b5obob5o$59b3o$56b3o3b3o
$55bo2bo3bo2bo$54bob9obo$54bo2bo5bo2bo$51b2obo3b5o3bob2o$51b2obobobo3b
obobob2o$55b2o7b2o$58b2ob2o$55b3o5b3o$55bo2b5o2bo$57bo5bo$58b5o$60bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
Just a note that this is in fact biting off more than they can chew.
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x = 15, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
o$3o$3bo$2b2o2$4b2o$4bobo$3bob2o3bo$4bo3b2obo$8bobo$9b2o2$11b2o$11bo$
12b3o$14bo!Each day is a hidden opportunity, a frozen waterfall that's waiting to be realised, and one that I'll probably be ignoring
anythingsonata wrote:July 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pmconwaylife signatures are amazing[citation needed]
Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
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x = 14, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
11bo$11bobo$11b2o7$2bo$b3o$o3bo$2ob2o2b2o$6b2o$8bo!Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
Here you go, constructed in the most blatantly obvious way possible:JP21 wrote: December 11th, 2020, 2:34 pmCode: Select all
x = 14, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 11bo$11bobo$11b2o7$2bo$b3o$o3bo$2ob2o2b2o$6b2o$8bo!
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x = 152, y = 389, rule = B3/S23
116b2o5b2o$102bo12bo3bo2bobo$100b3o12b2o2bo2bo$99bo3b2o14bo2bo$98bob2o
3bo14b2o$98bobob3o2bobobo7bo$97b2obob3o8bo7b3o$100bo6bo5bo6b2o2bo$87bo
12bob2o8bo6bo3bobo$86bobo10b2ob2o5bobo6bobo2bobo$110bo7bobo3bo$85bo2bo
30bo$80b2obobobo$79bob2o3bo10bo$79bo4bo10b3o$80b4o10bo$81bo11bobo$81bo
2bo8bobo$81b3o10bo$80b2o$80bo9b3o$79bobo$80b2o8bobo$85b3o2bobo2$83b2o
3bob3o$83bo4bo$83b2o2b2o53b2o$88bo9b2o42bo$86b3o9bobo43bo$86b2o12bo23b
2o14b5o$100b2o23bo5b3o5bo$79b2o44bob2obo3bo5b3o$79bo46bo8bo7bo$81bob2o
47bo3bo3b4o$80b2ob2o46bobo2bo3bo3b2o$128bo3bo3bo4b3o2bo$80b2ob2o44bo5b
o7bob2o$81b2o2bo44bo3bo8bo$79bo4bobo44b3o8b2o$79b2ob2obobo$83bo2bo16b
2o$83bo19bo30b2o$81bob2o16bobo30bo$80bobo2bobo13b2o32b3o$80bo2bo2b2o
49bo$81b2o3$98bo$98bo2$93b2o$92bobo$91b2ob2ob2o$92b5o2bo$93b7o9b3o$84b
2o12bo12bo$85bo11bo12bo$82b3o46b2o$82bo47bobo$124b2o4bo$122bo2bo2b2ob
4o$122b2obobobobo2bo$125bobobobo$125bobob2o$88b2o36bo$89bo$89bobo47b2o
$90b2o38b2o7bo$130b2o5bobo$137b2o$87bo$86bobo$86bobo33bo$84b3ob2o31bo$
83bo37b3o$84b3ob2o$86bob2o37b2o18b2o$128bo18bo$81b2o42b3o21bo$82bo18b
2o22bo2b3o14b5o$82bobo9b2o5bobo23bo2bo13bo$83b2o7b2o9bo16b2o4b2o2bobo
12b3o$91bobo9b2o15b2o9b2o15bo$90bo54b4o$91b2o3bobo41b2o3bo3b2o$97b2o
20b2o19b2o4b3o2bo$97bo18bo4bo11b2o13bob2o$110b2o4bo5bo9bobo13bo$109bo
2bo3bob2ob2o11bo12b2o$105bo4bob2o$93bo10bo5bobo6bo$92bobo9b3o2b3o7bo
19b2o$92bobo14bo10bo18bo$93bo27b2o11b2o4b3o$88b2o30bo13bobo5bo$87bobo
31b2o13bo$87bo48b2o$86b2o$96bo$96bobo5b2o29b2o$96b2o6b2o3bo20b2o2bo2bo
$108bobo19bobo2b2o$109bobo3b2o16b2o$111bo4bo17bo$111bob3o15bo2bob2o$
110b2obo16bobob2obo$88bo42bobo$87bo44bo2b2o$87b3o43b2ob3o$139bo$133b2o
b3o$126bo6b2obo$125bobo$124b2obo$116b2o8bo$79bo37bo$79bobo35bobo8b2o$
79b2o37b2o8b2o4$138b2o$138b2o$71bo$70bo$70b3o27b2o$100bo$101bo21bo$92b
2o6b2o11b2o7bobo$92b2o20b2o6bobo$100b2o11bo9bo$100b2o18b3o$62bo57bo4bo
$62bobo17b2o40bobo$62b2o19bo40bobo$83bobo37b2ob2o$84b2o36bo2bo2bo$121b
obobobobo$122bobobobo$124bobo$54bo69bo2bo$53bo71b2o$53b3o39b3o$95bo2bo
$94bo3bo25b2o$94b3o2bo24b2o$81b2o12b4o14bo$80bo2bo2b2o26b2o13bo$80bobo
2bobo25b2o12b3o$45bo35bob2o7bobo6b2o23bo$45bobo35bo8b2o7bo24b2o$45b2o
36bo2bo6bo8b3o$79b2ob2obobo16bo$79bo4bobo47b2o$81b2o2bo49bo$80b2ob2o
50bob2o$127b2o4b3o2bo$37bo42b2ob2o42b2o3bo3b2o$36bo44bob2o47b4o$36b3o
40bo38b2o15bo$79b2o36bobo12b3o$100b2o15bo13bo$100bo15b2o14b5o$98bobo
35bo$90bobo5b2o34bo$90bobo41b2o$28bo61b3o$28bobo$28b2o$105bo$80b2o23b
3o$79bobo26bo5bobo$80bo26b2o5b2o$80b2o33bo$20bo60b3o10bo$19bo61bo2bo8b
obo$19b3o59bo11bobo$80b4o10bo$79bo4bo10b3o$79bob2o3bo10bo19b2o$80b2obo
bobo22b2o5bobo$85bo2bo21b2o7bo$119b2o$11bo74bobo$11bobo73bo18bo$11b2o
92bobob2o$105bobobobo$102b2obobobobo2bo$102bo2bo2b2ob4o$104b2o4bo$110b
obo$111b2o$2bo$b3o107b2o$o3bo105bobo$2ob2o2b2o95b2o4bo$6b2o94bo2bo2b2o
b4o$8bo93b2obobobobo2bo$105bobobobo$105bobob2o$87bo18bo$87bo$87bo31b2o
$16bo67bobo23b2o7bo$15b2o63b2o2b2obo22b2o5bobo$15bobo61bob6o10bo19b2o$
79bo15b3o$80b4o10bo$83bo9bobo$80b2obo9bobo$83bo10bo$80bo$24b2o53bo27b
2o$23b2o54bobo26bo$25bo54b2o23b3o$105bo$94bo23b3o$94bobo21bo$94b2o23bo
$134b2o$33bo64b2o34bo$32b2o64bobo35bo$32bobo65bo15b2o14b5o$91b2o7b2o
15bo13bo$79b2o10b2o24bobo12b3o$79bo38b2o15bo$81bob2o47b4o$80b2ob2o42b
2o3bo3b2o$127b2o4b3o2bo$41b2o37b2ob2o50bob2o$40b2o39b2o2bo49bo$42bo36b
o4bobo47b2o$79b2ob2obobo5b2o9bo$83bo2bo4bo10b3o9bo$83bo7bo2bo6bo11b3o
10b2o$81bob2o7b2o7b2o9bobobo9bo$80bobo2bobo4b2o17b2o2b2o10b3o$50bo29bo
2bo2b2o3bo2bo15b2obob3o11bo$49b2o30b2o11bo14bo3b2o$49bobo39b3o15bo3b2o
9b2o$110b3o11b2o2$106b2o6bo$113bo2bo8b2o$116bo7bo2bo$113bo10bobo$58b2o
55bo6bobobobo$57b2o62bobobobobo$59bo24b2o36bo2bo2bo$83bobo31bo5b2ob2o$
83bo22b2o9bo6bobo$82b2o40bobo$110b3o7bo4bo$100b2o7bo3b2o5b3o$67bo32b2o
7bo3b2o8bo$66b2o24b2o16b2obob3o4bobo$66bobo23b2o6b2o9b2o2b2o5bobo$101b
o10bobobo6bo$100bo12b3o$100b2o12bo3$138b2o$75b2o61b2o$74b2o$76bo49bobo
$126bobo$118b2o7bo3b2o$117bobo10b3o$117bo11bob2o$116b2o10b2obo$84bo44b
3o$83b2o45bo$83bobo47b2obo$133b2ob3o$139bo$133b2ob3o$132bo2b2o$131bobo
$110b2obo16bobob2obo$92b2o17bob3o15bo2bob2o$91b2o18bo4bo17bo$93bo15bob
o3b2o16b2o$108bobo19bobo2b2o$104b2o3bo20b2o2bo2bo$104b2o29b2o2$86b2o$
87bo13bo34b2o$87bobo10b2o34bo$88b2o10bobo30b2obo5bo$93bo31bobo7bo4b3o$
92bobo17b3o7bo2bo2bo2bo7bo$92bobo16b2ob2o2b4o2bo2b2obo8b2o$93bo16bo4b
2ob4ob2o2bob2ob2o$111b6o6b2obo2b3o$112b2o2bo8bo21b2o$116b2obo28bo$117b
obo28bob2o$117bo22b2o4b3o2bo$94b2o44b2o3bo3b2o$145b4o$93bo2bo6b2o15b2o
9b2o15bo$83b2o8bo2b2o5bo16b2o4b2o2bobo12b3o$82bobo6bo2b2o5bobo23bo2bo
13bo$82bo8b3o7b2o22bo2b3o14b5o$81b2o42b3o21bo$92b2o34bo18bo$86bo5b2o
33b2o18b2o$84b6o$83bo4bo44bo$84b3ob2o43b2o$86bobo37bob6obo$86bobo35b2o
2b2obo2b3o$87bo37bo4bo4b2o$126b2o5b2ob3o$128bo3bo4bobo$90b2o36bobobo6b
o$89bobo37b3o7b2o$89bo40bo$88b2o36bo$125bobob2o$125bobobobo$122b2obobo
bobo2bo$105bo16bo2bo2b2ob4o$106b2o16b2o4bo$82bo22b2o23bobo$82b3o46b2o$
85bo$84b2o14b2o$100b2o5$96bo$95b3o$94b2o2bo$94bob4o$94bo4bo$81b2o11bo
2b2o$80bo2bo2b2o8b2o39bo$80bobo2bobo13b2o32b3o$81bob2o7bo8bobo30bo$83b
o8bobo8bo30b2o$83bo2bo5b2o9b2o$79b2ob2obobo$79bo4bobo55b2o$81b2o2bo57b
o$80b2ob2o58bob2o$130bobo2b2o4b3o2bo$80b2ob2o46b2o2b2o3bo3b2o$81bob2o
46bo8b4o$79bo46b2o15bo$79b2o44bobo12b3o$100b2o23bo13bo$100bo23b2o14b5o
$98bobo43bo$98b2o42bo$89b2ob2o48b2o$90bobo$91bo3$80b2o$79bobo$79bo$80b
o$83bo10bo$80b2obo9bobo$83bo9bobo$80b4o10bo$79bo15b3o$79bob6o10bo$80b
2o2b2obo26bo$84bobo25b2o5bo$87bo25b2o3bobo3bo$87bo11b2ob2o14bobo2bobo$
87bo12bob2o15bob3obo$100bo3bo5b2o8b2o2bo$97b2obobobo4bo2bo8b3o$98bobo
4bo4bobo$98bob2o3bo5bo7b3o$99bo3b2o14bo2bo$100b3o12b2ob5o$102bo12bob2o
3bobo$116bo6b2o!
Each day is a hidden opportunity, a frozen waterfall that's waiting to be realised, and one that I'll probably be ignoring
anythingsonata wrote:July 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pmconwaylife signatures are amazing[citation needed]
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wwei23
Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
It'll appear one day...
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x = 24, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$9bo4bo2$9bo4bo$9bo4bo$2ob2o4b2o2b2o4b2ob2o$bobo2bobobo2bobobo2b
obo$bo2bobob3o2b3obobo2bo$2bobo3bo2b2o2bo3bobo$b2ob4o3b2o3b4ob2o$o2bo
7b2o7bo2bo$bobob3o8b3obobo$2bobo2bo8bo2bobo$4bo14bo$4bobob8obobo$5b2o
b3o2b3ob2o$7bo8bo$5b2o10b2o$6bobobo2bobobo$3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo$2bobob2o
b2o2b2ob2obobo$bo2bo2bobo4bobo2bo2bo$b3obobobo4bobobob3o$4bobobo6bobo
bo$b2obobobobo2bobobobob2o$bo2bobobobo2bobobobo2bo$3b2obo10bob2o$5bob
obo4bobobo$3b2o2b2ob4ob2o2b2o$3bo3b2ob4ob2o3bo$2obo2b2o8b2o2bob2o$2ob
obo12bobob2o$3bobobo8bobobo$3bo5bo4bo5bo$4b3o3b4o3b3o$7bo3b2o3bo$3bob
3o8b3obo$3b2o3b3o2b3o3b2o$6b2obo4bob2o$b5o2b8o2b5o$o5bo3bo2bo3bo5bo$b
ob2o2b2o6b2o2b2obo$2obo3bo2b4o2bo3bob2o$3bo3bo8bo3bo$3b2ob2o3b2o3b2ob
2o$5b2o3b4o3b2o$3b2o14b2o$3bo16bo$bobo16bobo$b2o18b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
Sombreros:GUYTU6J wrote: December 11th, 2020, 12:36 pmIt works with p13 mechanisms:velcrorex wrote: January 18th, 2015, 11:42 pm 4 worker bees and 4 pondsAlso works with snackers instead of worker bees.Code: Select all
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x = 27, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
13bo$12bobo$12bobo$8b2ob2ob2ob2o$8bo4bo4bo$9b3obob3o$11b2ob2o2$3b2o17b
2o$3bobo4b2o3b2o4bobo$5bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo$3bob2o2bo2bobo2bo2b2obo$b3o2bo
3b2o3b2o3bo2b3o$o3b2o15b2o3bo$b3o2bo3b2o3b2o3bo2b3o$3bob2o2bo2bobo2bo
2b2obo$5bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo$3bobo4b2o3b2o4bobo$3b2o17b2o2$11b2ob2o$9b3obo
b3o$8bo4bo4bo$8b2ob2ob2ob2o$12bobo$12bobo$13bo!
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wwei23
Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
A P7 partial with a boat and a tub on each side:
EDIT: The rotor splits at around row 14, maybe keeping it split would yield a completion? The fallback isn't very good though.
Edit 2: Fixed RLE to say B3/S23 instead of Conway's Life.
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x = 26, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$10bo4bo3$8bo2b4o2bo$8b4o2b4o$11b4o$4b2o4bo4bo4b2o$4bobo3bo4bo3b
obo$5bo3b2o4b2o3bo$9b2o4b2o2$6bo2b8o2bo$5bobo10bobo$6bo2bo6bo2bo$10bo
4bo$10bob2obo$4b2o3b2ob2ob2o3b2o$4bo4bo2b2o2bo4bo$5b4o8b4o$7bob3o2b3o
bo$5b3obo6bob3o$b2obo3bob2o2b2obo3bob2o$2bobo16bobo$obob2o14b2obobo$2o
22b2o!
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x = 28, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$11bo4bo2$10bo6bo$10bob4obo$8bo10bo$6b3obobo2bobob3o$5bo4b3o2b3o
4bo$6b3o4b2o4b3o$9bo8bo$4b4o5b2o5b4o$4bo3bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$6b2o4bo2bo4b2o
$5b2ob2obo4bob2ob2o$8bob2o4b2obo$5b4o10b4o$5bo2bob2o4b2obo2bo$6bo2bo8b
o2bo$2ob3ob2o10b2ob3ob2o$bobo2b2o4bo2bo4b2o2bobo$bo2bo7bo2bo7bo2bo$2b
2ob3o3b2o2b2o3b3ob2o$3bobo2b2o3b2o3b2o2bobo$3bo2bo3b2ob2ob2o3bo2bo$4b
2o2bo3bo2bo3bo2b2o$6b2o3bob2obo3b2o$4b2o2bo2bo4bo2bo2b2o$3bo2b3ob2o4b
2ob3o2bo$3b3o3bo8bo3b3o$6b2o4bo2bo4b2o$5bo6b4o6bo$5b4o2b2o2b2o2b4o2$5b
2ob2obo4bob2ob2o$6bobobobo2bobobobo$4bobo2bob6obo2bobo$4b2o2b3o6b3o2b
2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread
A p56 blinker hassler based on Sokwe's sparker in the p28 gun:
Perhaps another p49 could be found along these lines.
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x = 81, y = 69, rule = B3/S23
40bo3b2o$39bobobo2bo$39bobob2obo$15b2ob2o17b2o2bo4b2o13b2ob2o$14bobob
obob2o14bob2o2b2o11b2obobobobo$14bobobobobo2bo11bo2bo4bo9bo2bobobobob
o$12b2o2b5o3b2o11bobo2b3o10b2o3b5o2b2o$13bobo5bo16bob2o3b3o11bo5bobo$
13bob2o3b2o17bo4bo2bo11b2o3b2obo$12b2o4bo21b2o2bobo15bo4b2o$11bo2b3ob
ob4o10b2o6bobob2o9b4obob3o2bo$11b2o3b2ob2o2bo11bo2b3obobo12bo2b2ob2o3b
2o$26b2o7bobo2bo3bo8b2o$26bo9bobo3b2o10bo$28bo9bobo11bo$18b2o7b2o8bob
7o6b2o7b2o$14b2o2b2o4b2o9b3o7bo9b2o4b2o2b2o$14bo2bo6bob5o3bo3bo2bobo6b
5obo6bo2bo$15b4o2b2obobo4bo3bobo5b5obo4bobob2o2b4o$12b3o3bo3bo2bob2o2b
o2b2ob6o4bobo2b2obo2bo3bo3b3o$12bo2b2o5bo5b4obo10b2o3b4o5bo5b2o2bo$14b
o3b4ob2o3bo4bob4o6bobo4bo3b2ob4o3bo$15b2o6bobo2b5obo2bo7bob6o2bobo6b2o
$17b5obobo8bo4b2o5bo8bobob5o$17bo4b2obob2ob4o7b2o4b4ob2obob2o4bo$20bo
4b2o2b2o19b2o2b2o4bo$19bob4o3bo2bo17bo2bo3b4obo$19bobo3b6obo5bo3bo5bo
b6o3bobo$20bo3bo5bobo6bobo6bobo5bo3bo$24b2o2bo3bob2o4bo4b2obo3bo2b2o$
11b2o16b3obo3bo5bo3bob3o16b2o$11bo5bo10bo2bobobo2bo3bo2bobobo2bo10bo5b
o$4b2o2b2obobo2bobo9b3o2bo5b3o5bo2b3o9bobo2bobob2o2b2o$4bo3bobob5obo9b
ob3obobob2ob2obobob3obo9bob5obobo3bo$b2obo5bo7b3o2b2o2bo3bo2bob2o2bo2b
2obo2bo3bo2b2o2b3o7bo5bob2o$obob2o3b2o3b4o2bobo3bo3bobo15bobo3bo3bobo
2b4o3b2o3b2obobo$obo3bo7bo2bob2o5bo3bob2o13b2obo3bo5b2obo2bo7bo3bobo$
bobobo2bo7bo7b2o4bo19bo4b2o7bo7bo2bobobo$2bo2b4o3b2o3b2obo2bobob2obob
2o13b2obob2obobo2bob2o3b2o3b4o2bo$3b2o7bo5bob4obobo2bo2bo6bo6bo2bo2bo
bob4obo5bo7b2o$5b6obobo3bo7bo2b2o2bobo3b3o3bobo2b2o2bo7bo3bobob6o$5bo
2bo2bob2o4b3o12b2o9b2o12b3o4b2obo2bo2bo$11bo9bo37bo9bo$10b2o57b2o7$39b
3o2$38bobobo$36b3obob3o$35bo4bo4bo$36b4ob5o$39bobobo2b2o$36b2obo2bo2b
o2bo$37bobo5bob2o$37bo2b4obobo$36b2o3b5o2bo$41bo4b3o$42b4o$46bo$41bob
ob2o$39b3ob2o$38bo3bo3b3o$38b2o2bob2o2bo$43bobo!former username: A for Awesome
praosylen#5847 (Discord)
The only decision I made was made
of flowers, to jump universes to one of springtime in
a land of former winter, where no invisible walls stood,
or could stand for more than a few hours at most...
praosylen#5847 (Discord)
The only decision I made was made
of flowers, to jump universes to one of springtime in
a land of former winter, where no invisible walls stood,
or could stand for more than a few hours at most...