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Re: Chemical CA

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BokaBB wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:14 am The Powder Game?I used to play it in the earlier times,but I have now abandoned it in favour of The Powder Toy.
The biggest problem at the beginning will be how to make atoms move in some direction. I support the use of the atom tails.
What about not making elements by themselves,but protons,neutrons and electrons? That might solve many problems,but potentially also make new ones.
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I don't think that's a good idea. We would have to make many more interactions. Maybe it would reduce the number of states because it uses elementary particles, but I don't think it's worth it, though we could try. Are you imagining electrons spinning in the Moore neighbourhood of a central nucleus cell?
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Re: Chemical CA

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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:18 am
BokaBB wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:14 am The Powder Game?I used to play it in the earlier times,but I have now abandoned it in favour of The Powder Toy.
The biggest problem at the beginning will be how to make atoms move in some direction. I support the use of the atom tails.
What about not making elements by themselves,but protons,neutrons and electrons? That might solve many problems,but potentially also make new ones.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
I don't think that's a good idea. We would have to make many more interactions. Maybe it would reduce the number of states because it uses elementary particles, but I don't think it's worth it, though we could try. Are you imagining electrons spinning in the Moore neighbourhood of a central nucleus cell?
Yes. I have an idea, altrough limiting:there are protons, neutrons and electrons labelled with numbers. The protons with number 73,for an example,will attract the electrons of the sum 73.
I don't know for sure what neutrons should do, they should be removed probably since they aren't much nesecarry. Also,that would allow more states for the other two particles. However,the isotopes couldn't then be made. This idea isn't overally good since it would require LOTS of programming, altrough it is possible a script could be made for that. However, I think a version with a small amount of states is worth trying.
Since we should be able to (hopefully) represent all the elements,we must strategize.
Does LifeWiewer also has a 256- state limit?
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Re: Chemical CA

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BokaBB wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:28 am es. I have an idea, altrough limiting:there are protons, neutrons and electrons labelled with numbers. The protons with number 73,for an example,will attract the electrons of the sum 73.
I don't know for sure what neutrons should do, they should be removed probably since they aren't much nesecarry. Also,that would allow more states for the other two particles. However,the isotopes couldn't then be made. This idea isn't overally good since it would require LOTS of programming, altrough it is possible a script could be made for that. However, I think a version with a small amount of states is worth trying.
Since we should be able to (hopefully) represent all the elements,we must strategize.
Isotopes are complex and really only change mass, which probably won't play a role in this CA. The only really important role players in chemistry are electrons, and to a lesser extent protons (only their charge will matter in this CA if we make it like this).
BokaBB wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:28 am Does LifeWiewer also has a 256- state limit?
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Probably, though I can't find anything on the LifeWiki page on it.
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Re: Chemical CA

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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:41 am
BokaBB wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:28 am es. I have an idea, altrough limiting:there are protons, neutrons and electrons labelled with numbers. The protons with number 73,for an example,will attract the electrons of the sum 73.
I don't know for sure what neutrons should do, they should be removed probably since they aren't much nesecarry. Also,that would allow more states for the other two particles. However,the isotopes couldn't then be made. This idea isn't overally good since it would require LOTS of programming, altrough it is possible a script could be made for that. However, I think a version with a small amount of states is worth trying.
Since we should be able to (hopefully) represent all the elements,we must strategize.
Isotopes are complex and really only change mass, which probably won't play a role in this CA. The only really important role players in chemistry are electrons, and to a lesser extent protons (only their charge will matter in this CA if we make it like this).
BokaBB wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:28 am Does LifeWiewer also has a 256- state limit?
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Probably, though I can't find anything on the LifeWiki page on it.
Yes, because Rule Table have a 256 states limit and if you try generations:

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = //257
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Re: Chemical CA

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BokaBB wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:28 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:18 am
BokaBB wrote: November 27th, 2020, 11:14 am The Powder Game?I used to play it in the earlier times,but I have now abandoned it in favour of The Powder Toy.
The biggest problem at the beginning will be how to make atoms move in some direction. I support the use of the atom tails.
What about not making elements by themselves,but protons,neutrons and electrons? That might solve many problems,but potentially also make new ones.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
I don't think that's a good idea. We would have to make many more interactions. Maybe it would reduce the number of states because it uses elementary particles, but I don't think it's worth it, though we could try. Are you imagining electrons spinning in the Moore neighbourhood of a central nucleus cell?
Yes. I have an idea, altrough limiting:there are protons, neutrons and electrons labelled with numbers. The protons with number 73,for an example,will attract the electrons of the sum 73.
I don't know for sure what neutrons should do, they should be removed probably since they aren't much nesecarry. Also,that would allow more states for the other two particles. However,the isotopes couldn't then be made. This idea isn't overally good since it would require LOTS of programming, altrough it is possible a script could be made for that. However, I think a version with a small amount of states is worth trying.
We already decided we are not going to use elements that uses electrons, so no.
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Re: Chemical CA

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