Symbiosis

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wwei23

Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

Layz Boi wrote: November 26th, 2020, 3:51 pm few more P16s;
Thank you!

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x = 16, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
6.A$5.B.A$5.AB$4.2A$4.3A2.BA$AB4.2A.B$8.B$.A$.A3.A$B.A2.A3.A4.B$7.2A
4.A$7.A.A$8.5A$10.3A.B$9.B2.B2.A!
EDIT: P15 oscillators grabbed from this thread, put all on one place:

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x = 189, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
.2A11.A9.A5.BA12.B5.A2.2B7.A7.2B9.3A2.A7.A9.BA4.4A12.B17.BA4.A23.A7.B
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AB2.AB7.BA7.B$21.B101.AB!
Edit 2: Okay, there's a bit of hope. Probably not with this ridiculously-contrived spark though. :P

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x = 10, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
8.2B$2.A$.2B4.B$B.2B.B2.B$.4B.B$AB2.B.B2$.B$.A!
Edit 3: Can we get a better spark out of this?

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x = 8, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
2.B$2.A$2.2A3.B$4.3A$4.A2.A$3.5A$3.A.B$4.A$6.B$BA4.BA$3.A$4.B!
Edit 4:

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x = 9, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
3.A4.B$2.B4.A2$6.B$.3B3.A$A2.2B2.A$3.AB.AB!
Edit 5: Still at P15.

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
2A3.2A2.2A$A.2B.A4.A$2.B.B.3A2B$3.B.B.A.2B$4.3B.A$8.B$2.2B4.A$.AB$.A.
3BA$4.B.B!
Edit 6: Two P14s and a p15:

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x = 18, y = 18, rule = Symbiosis
3.B9.B$3.A2.B6.AB$4.2A6.2A$.A2.2A.AB6.A$B9.B5A$14.A2.A$17.B4$3.AB$2.A
5.2B$2.2A4.2B$2A$BA.3A2.2A$3.BA4.A$7
Edit 7: More P15s:

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x = 40, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
.2B28.A3.B$.A.B.A26.B.A3.BA$2.B2.B27.B4.A$2.B2.BA24.A3B3.B$7.A23.B.B
3.2B$5.B2.A22.A$4.B.A.A23.B$3.B2.A2.B21.B$3.B.BA2.B20.BA$2.A3.A2B22.B
3.B$4.B31.A$ABA.BA$2.A!
Edit 8: P16, fixed previous broken edit:

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x = 13, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
.B3.B.A3.A$.2A3.A.A2.AB$2.B4.BA2B$.B.B3.2A.B.B$2.2B5.A.A$3.A$.B3A$.A
6.A$B2.3A.2A$3.B.A.A2.AB$2.B3.A5.A$AB8.2B$B9.2B$.A10.A!
Edit 9: No, the P15 got cut off, here is what was supposed to be edit 6:

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x = 18, y = 18, rule = Symbiosis
3.B9.B$3.A2.B6.AB$4.2A6.2A$.A2.2A.AB6.A$B9.B5A$14.A2.A$17.B4$3.AB$2.A
5.2B$2.2A4.2B$2A$BA.3A2.2A$3.BA4.A$7.A$8.BA!
Edit 10: P15 lightweight emulator:

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x = 9, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
7.A$3.A.3B$3.2B3.B$7.B$AB4.B$7.A$2.B2.B!
Edit 11: P15:

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
3.AB.BA$4.A2.2B2$
Edit 12: I'm not doing so well with the soup searching here! MathAndCode, LayzBoi, please do your things! I'll update the gun collection. :P
Edit 13: Oops, put edit 12 in the code box by mistake. :P
MathAndCode
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by MathAndCode »

Here is a p26 oscillator.

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x = 6, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$A.2A.B$3A.B$B!
Here is a related p98 oscillator.

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x = 10, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$4.B$A$.B4$8.A$7.A.B$4.3A.B$4.B!
Here is a related p182 oscillator.

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x = 12, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
A$.B$10.BA2$5.A2.A$5.A2.A$4.A2.A.B$4.3A.B$4.B!
Oscillators with other periods may be possible.



Edit: Here's another group of related oscillators.
p96:

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x = 10, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$7.2A$6.A.A$2.B4.A.B$.A.A2.A$B2.A3.B!
p62:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
8.B$8.2A$7.A.A$3.B.A.A2.B$2.A.A2.A$.B2.A3.B4$.B$A!
p124:

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x = 10, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$7.2A$6.A.A$2.B4.A.B$.A.A2.A$B.A4.B5$.B$A!
p28:

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x = 10, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
6.B$7.2A$7.2A$2.B6.B$.A.4A$B.4A.B!
p121:

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x = 10, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$7.2A$7.2A$2.B6.B$.A.A2.A$B.2A3.BA$7.B!
p129 (with a very strong spark):

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
8.B$8.2A$7.A.A$3.B.A4.B$.BA.A2.A$3.A4.B$4.2A2$BA!
p82:

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x = 12, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
9.B$9.2A$7.A2.A$4.B.A4.B$2.BA.2A.A$4.3A2.B3$BA!
p21:

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x = 10, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$7.2A$6.A.A$2.B4.A.B$BA.A2.A$2.A4.B$3.2A$A$B!
p17:

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x = 9, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
2.A3.B$3.B2.2A$7.A$.B2.A.A.B$A.A2.A$BA.A2.B$2.A!
p107:

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x = 9, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$3.A2.B$6.2A$5.A.A$.B2.2A2.B$A.A2.A$B2A3.B!
p28:

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x = 9, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$3.A2.B$3.2A.2A$3.A3.A$.B.A4.B$A.A2.A$BA2.A.B$2.3A2$5.B$6.A!
p446:

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x = 12, y = 17, rule = Symbiosis
9.B$9.2A$9.2A$4.B6.B$2.BA.A2.A$6.A2.B$4.3A$5.2A$2.A$.B6$.B$A!
p108:

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
8.B$8.2A$6.2A.A$3.B3.A2.B$.BA.A.2A$3.A.A2.B$4.A2$.A7.BA$B!
p100:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
8.B$8.2A$6.2A.A$3.B3.A2.B$.BA.A.2A$3.A.A2.B$4.A2$.A$B$9.BA!
Last edited by MathAndCode on November 26th, 2020, 6:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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wwei23

Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

Gun collection has been updated!

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x = 1274, y = 53, rule = Symbiosis
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by MathAndCode »

MathAndCode wrote: November 26th, 2020, 6:14 pmp96:

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x = 10, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$7.2A$6.A.A$2.B4.A.B$.A.A2.A$B2.A3.B!
It can support a gun.

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x = 16, y = 25, rule = Symbiosis
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I am tentatively considering myself back.
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

MathAndCode wrote: November 26th, 2020, 7:08 pm It can support a gun.
I have added it to the gun collection.

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x = 1314, y = 53, rule = Symbiosis
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by MathAndCode »

Here is a p16 lightweight emulator.

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x = 10, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$4.A2.B$.B2A3.2A$8.A$2.B.A4.B$.A.A.2A$B.A4.B!


Edit: Here's a p94 oscillator.

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x = 10, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$.A2.A2.B$BA5.2A$7.2A$2.B6.B$.A.A2.A$B.A4.B5$.B$A!
I am tentatively considering myself back.
wwei23

Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

P128 blinker factory with the blinker suppressed:

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x = 16, y = 27, rule = Symbiosis
11.BA$10.B$3.B.2A.A2B$B.B.A2.AB.A$AB.5AB2.B$2.A.2A2.2B$.B3.2A7.AB$4.
2A18$.2B$.2B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by MathAndCode »

Here is a p73 factory of an unnamed active object that can probably be altered to convert said object into a more powerful spark.

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x = 14, y = 17, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$.A2.A2.B$BA.A3.2A$8.A$2.B4.A.B$.A.A.2A$B2.A3.B$2.A$2.A$3.A$.B$A4$13.A$12.B!


Edit: Here's a related p38.

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x = 10, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$.A2.A2.B$BA.A.A.2A$8.A$2.B6.B$.A.A2.A$B.A4.B$3.2A3$.B$A!
I am tentatively considering myself back.
wwei23

Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

P88 glider gun:

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x = 8, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$3.AB$2.A2.B$.A.B.3B$A.B.B.B$B.B.3B$.AB$.A3.2B$BA3.2B$2.3B$4.A!
My ineptness at finding the right sparkers to complete guns means that all I can really do is try to assemble guns from your sparkers and just try soup-searching directly for guns.
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by MathAndCode »

wwei23 wrote: November 26th, 2020, 7:28 pmMy ineptness at finding the right sparkers to complete guns means that all I can really do is try to assemble guns from your sparkers and just try soup-searching directly for guns.
I simply search for "open" (i.e. capable of delivering sparks) oscillators without searching for specific spark types or periods.
I am tentatively considering myself back.
wwei23

Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

MathAndCode wrote: November 26th, 2020, 7:28 pm I simply search for "open" (i.e. capable of delivering sparks) oscillators without searching for specific spark types or periods.
Well, they never want to be at the right period in any case! :P
P55:

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x = 10, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
2.3B$2.3B$AB3.B$3.2B.B.AB$3.A.B$4.A2B!
EDIT: P29 glider gun:

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x = 11, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.A.3B4.A$2.B2.B4.B$.2B.2B3.B$A2.B6.A$.A2.A$.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by MathAndCode »

Here's a p26 oscillator that can be viewed as a p15 block factory.

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x = 9, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
A$.B6.B$4.4A$3.A2.A.B$2.B4.B!
I am tentatively considering myself back.
wwei23

Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

MathAndCode wrote: November 26th, 2020, 7:32 pm Here's a p26 oscillator that can be viewed as a p15 block factory.
It's a shame that a pentadecathalon can't reach in and turn the block into a glider in time. However, I did find a P303 glider gun.

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x = 32, y = 31, rule = Symbiosis
4.AB2.2B3.B$4.B2.A2B2.A$4.2A7.B$3.A.A7.A7.A$4.2A8.B6.B$3.B2A4.2A4.AB
4.B$5.A.A2.2A11.BA$6.2A$6.2A5.A$13.A$13.A2$9.3A6$2B$2B8$28.2A$15.2A
11.A.A$13.B.A.B12.A$13.A2B14.2A!
EDIT: P21:

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x = 9, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
2.A.A.A$.B.3B.B$A3.B3.A!
Edit 2: P54 beehive factory:

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x = 17, y = 21, rule = Symbiosis
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Edit 3: Looks like a gun engine in this soup but I don't know if it can be stabilized since the interaction is so complex:

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x = 238, y = 65, rule = Symbiosis
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Edit 4: Wait, it's as simple as simplifying the catalyst. Anyways, this is a new P198 glider gun:

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x = 18, y = 21, rule = Symbiosis
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Edit 5: Transparent block:

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x = 17, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
2.B$B.B$.2B2$15.2A$15.2A2$15.BA5$9.2B$9.2B!
Edit 6: P184 gun:

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x = 10, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
3.BA$.AB2.A.ABA$2.3B.B.B$2.B3.B$A2B.B.2B$2.B3.2B$3.3B!
Edit 7: Trench warfare again!

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x = 238, y = 65, rule = Symbiosis
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Re: Symbiosis

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This looks promising.

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x = 7, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
2.4A$.A2.A.B$BA3.B!


Edit: Yes indeed.

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x = 7, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
2.A$2.B$6.A$5.2A$4.3A$2.A2.A$.A.2A.B$BA.A.B$2.A!

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
2.A7.A$2.B6.B3$2.3A$2.A2.A$.A.2A.B$BA.A.B$2.A!

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x = 8, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
B$.2A$.2A3$3.2A.A$2.A2.A.B$.BA.A.B$3.A!

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x = 7, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
2.A$2.B$6.B$5.A3$5.A$.A.2A.B$BA.A.B$2.A!

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x = 12, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
A$.B2$8.A$8.B$11.B$10.A$9.2A2$7.A2.A$6.A.2A.B$5.BA.A.B$7.A!

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x = 7, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
.A$.B$6.B$5.A3$3.3A$.A2.A.B$B2A2.B!

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x = 11, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$A4.B4.B$.B7.A3$9.A$5.2A.A.B$4.B2A2.B!

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x = 11, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$B4.B4.B$.A7.A3$4.2A3.A$5.A2.A.B$4.BA3.B!

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x = 11, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$2.B2.B4.B$.A7.A$B2$9.A$5.2A.A.B$4.B2A2.B!

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x = 67, y = 67, rule = Symbiosis
33.A$34.B5$30.A$27.B.A.AB$26.B.A2.A$23.B2A.A3.A$25.A.A$26.5A5$25.B$24.A6$57.B$49.A7.A$50.B5.2A$55.A2.B$55.3A.B$55.A2.A$55.A3.A$55.A4.A$57.3A$.B57.B$A65.A$7.B57.B$7.3A$6.A4.A$7.A3.A$8.A2.A$7.B.3A$8.B2.A$9.2A5.B$9.A7.A$9.B6$42.A$41.B5$36.5A$39.A.A$35.A3.A.2AB$35.A2.A.B$34.BA.A.B$36.A5$32.B$33.A!
Last edited by MathAndCode on November 26th, 2020, 9:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

A strange new P14:

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x = 9, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
3.A2.A$4.B2.2B$.2B2.2B.B$AB3.3B$A2B2.2B$.B3.2B.B$.A3.B.2B$2.B2.2B.A$
3.A.B.2A$5.B$5.A!
EDIT: P102 glider gun:

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x = 17, y = 21, rule = Symbiosis
16.A$14.3A$13.A$13.2A11$4.A$BA3.2A$2.A.A.A2.AB$.2A.2A5.A$B2A.B2A4.A$
9.A.B$10.B!
Edit: P33 glider gun:

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x = 18, y = 20, rule = Symbiosis
13.B$11.2A.B$11.A.A2.B$11.A.4A2$16.B$17.A4$8.A.A$8.2A$9.A4$2.2A$.A.A$
.A$2A!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by Hdjensofjfnen »

wwei23 wrote: November 26th, 2020, 8:30 pm A strange new P14:

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x = 9, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
3.A2.A$4.B2.2B$.2B2.2B.B$AB3.3B$A2B2.2B$.B3.2B.B$.A3.B.2B$2.B2.2B.A$
3.A.B.2A$5.B$5.A!
That sparker wants to be free:

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x = 8, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
2.A2.A$3.B2.2B$6.2B3$6.2B$6.2B$5.B.A$2.A.B.A$.B2.B$4.A!

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Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

Hdjensofjfnen wrote: November 26th, 2020, 8:46 pm That sparker wants to be free:
Thank you! I don't know how I missed that! :P

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x = 25, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
2A3.2A3.2A3.2A3.A.A$B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B2.2B$.B4.B4.B4.B6.2B$18.B$
18.B$.B4.B4.B4.B7.B$B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A.B3.2B$2A3.2A3.2A3.2A5.B.A$19.A
.B.A$19.B.B$21.A!
EDIT:

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x = 30, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
.B3.2A3.2A3.2A3.2A3.A.A$B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B2.2B$.B4.B4.B4.B4.B
6.2B$23.B$23.B$.B4.B4.B4.B4.B7.B$B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A.B3.2B$.B3.2A
3.2A3.2A3.2A5.B.A$24.A.B.A$24.B.B$26.A!
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Re: Symbiosis

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p61 oscillator, related to the p14 sparker:

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x = 4, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$4B$.B.A$2.A$B$A!
B2n3-jn/S1c23-y is an interesting rule. It has a replicator, a fake glider, an OMOS and SMOS, a wide variety of oscillators, and some signals. Also this rule is omniperiodic.
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

creeperman7002 wrote: November 26th, 2020, 8:51 pm p61 oscillator, related to the p14 sparker:
That small size is impressive. The P14 can power an even more impressive sparker at P70:

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x = 30, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$3.B.A3.2A3.2A3.2A3.A.A$4.B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B2.2B$5.B4.B4.B4.B5.
B2.B$2B10.B13.B$2B10.B13.B$5.B4.B4.B4.B5.B.B$4.B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A3.B.
2B$3.B.A3.2A3.2A3.2A4.2B.A$4.B18.A.B.A$23.B.B$25.A!
EDIT: And here, we have a blinker factory. Is it too much to hope for a direct gun from this?

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x = 14, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
2B$.B5.2A$.B.B3.B2.2A$2.2B5.B2.2B$12.2B2$12.B$11.B.B$4.A.B3.B.2B$3.B
3.A2.2B.A$8.A.B.A$8.B.B$10.A!
Edit 2: Thank you for freeing my sparker!

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x = 34, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
A3.B3.2A3.2A3.2A3.2A3.A.A$B2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B2.2B$2.3B4.B4.
B4.B4.B5.B2.B$2.2B12.B13.B$2.2B12.B13.B$2.3B4.B4.B4.B4.B5.B.B$B2.B.A
2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A2.B.A3.B.2B$A3.B3.2A3.2A3.2A3.2A4.2B.A$27.A.B.A$27.B.B
$29.A!
Edit 3: This would yield a suitable matching spark for a low-period gun. Anyone see a way to edgeshoot this from a signal wire?

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x = 3, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
2B2$2.B$2.B$2.B$2.B$2.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

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Hdjensofjfnen wrote: November 26th, 2020, 8:46 pmThat sparker wants to be free:

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x = 8, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
2.A2.A$3.B2.2B$6.2B3$6.2B$6.2B$5.B.A$2.A.B.A$.B2.B$4.A!

I made it closer to a proper middleweight emulator.

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x = 7, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$2.B2.2B$5.2B3$5.2B$5.2B$4.B.A$.A.B.A$B2.B$3.A!
By the way, I added oscillators to this post in an edit.
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

P99:

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x = 17, y = 21, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$.B.A.AB$B.2A.A$.A.2A$2.2A4.A$2.A6.A$.A$B4.A2.A$3.B.A2.A$2.A2.3A2$
9.3A2.A$8.A2.A.B$8.A2.A4.B$15.A$7.A6.A$8.A4.2A$12.2A.A$11.A.2A.B$10.B
A.A.B$12.A!
Are any of those oscillators you have there P14 or P15?
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Re: Symbiosis

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wwei23 wrote: November 26th, 2020, 9:24 pmAre any of those oscillators you have there P14 or P15?
No, not in that post. Did you find a p16 gun?



Edit: Here is a p57 oscillator.

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x = 10, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
.2A.B$B.A.A2.B$7.2A$8.A$2.B6.B$.A.A2.A$B.A4.B$3.2A!


Another edit: Here is a p18 oscillator.

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x = 7, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
.5A$B.3A.B$3.B!


Yet another edit: Here is a p66 oscillator that kind of looks familiar.

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x = 8, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
3.2A.A$.2A2.A.B$B.3A.B$3.B.B!


Fourth edit: Here is a related p75 oscillator.

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x = 12, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
A$.B3$10.A$5.5A.B$4.B.3A.B$7.B.B!


Fifth edit: Here's a p20 oscillator.

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
.2A$A.AB$A.A$3A$.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

MathAndCode wrote: November 26th, 2020, 9:26 pm No, not in that post. Did you find a p16 gun?
Yes. One of "Layz Boi"'s P16 sparkers was exactly what I needed to complete a P16 gun.

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x = 16, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
6.A$5.B.A$5.AB$4.2A$4.3A2.BA$AB4.2A.B$8.B$.A$.A3.A$B.A2.A3.A4.B$7.2A
4.A$7.A.A$8.5A$10.3A.B$9.B2.B2.A!
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Re: Symbiosis

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wwei23 wrote: November 26th, 2020, 9:41 pmYes. One of "Layz Boi"'s P16 sparkers was exactly what I needed to complete a P16 gun.
Good. I wonder how Lazy Boi managed to specifically find p16 oscillators.
Also, here's a p58 oscillator.

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x = 10, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
A$.B$9.A$8.B2$7.2A$8.AB$7.2A$5.A.A$5.2A.B$3.B2.B$2.A!


Edit: Here's a p16 oscillator.

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x = 7, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
.3A$B.A2.A$.B.2A.B$2.B2.B!
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Re: Symbiosis

Post by wwei23 »

MathAndCode wrote: November 26th, 2020, 9:42 pm
wwei23 wrote: November 26th, 2020, 9:41 pmYes. One of "Layz Boi"'s P16 sparkers was exactly what I needed to complete a P16 gun.
Good. I wonder how Lazy Boi managed to specifically find p16 oscillators.
Probably just picking out the P16s from all the other oscillators. :P
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