Let's create a language!

[BokaBB]

A bunch of words that should make rare combinations and sounds not that rare.

I don't think it's a good idea to introduce more unusual clusters.

Gestal - hill

I don't think it's a good idea to use the same prefix for "negation of" and "weaker version of". I propose <be-> for "weaker version of".

(I feel like pv must have sound other than /pv/,I am open for change there)

My translation script converts that to /p/, but /pw/ would also be compatible with my phonotactics.

fluffykitty, please don't speak like ,,We can overrule you.".I
don't like that.

You can't always get what you want.

Accepted. Bestal is hill now.
I think the unusual clusters and sounds have well adapted to the words.
Is there any sound that sounds like p + v? We can keep /pv/ if not,I don't want /w/ to be in Komal.
Thanks for not being offensive.
I will change derwo to dervo.
Can you please add the words that are in the Swadesh207 list to it?
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[BokaBB]

We will use le and able instead of my recent invention.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[fluffykitty]

Those are already used for stuff like "this book". Reusing them for "here"/"there" should still work if we're careful though.

[BokaBB]

Those are already used for stuff like "this book". Reusing them for "here"/"there" should still work if we're careful though.

Okay.
Ru- is for sale,invent its meaning quickly.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[BokaBB]

My ones fit well.

that sounds highly biased

Please repost the spreadsheet,I want it to be closer.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1126530732

Just making spreadsheet closer.
We need to call something with bad taste noke.
Also,
Si - interesting,nice
I am on the spreadsheet, please visit me.
Who is Davis?
Does we have this and that?If not,then ent and abent.
Also,comparation:
Ngong rigen. - I shine.
Shyu rigenel. You are shiner.
Pvia rigenor. - He /she /it is the most shining.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

I know we are mostly focusing on grammar and vocabulary now, but can we please agree on phonology before doing anything else?

[BokaBB]

Nel - who
Nes - what
Neret - where
Lisko! - Thanks!
Igol - special
Bel - meeting
San - friend
Gesan - enemy
Belsan - forum
Du - for
Dag - only
Sim - help
Eten - reading
Ba - to
Alg - should
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Nel - who
Nes - what
Neret - where
Lisko! - Thanks!
Igol - special
Bel - meeting
San - friend
Gesan - enemy
Belsan - forum
Du - for
Dag - only
Sim - help
Eten - reading
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

If we make vocabulary we should focus on simpler words, not words like "forum". Please look at my post above.

[BokaBB]

Hurry up!The preffix Ru- is for sale!
Also,please check Komal - dag belsan!
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[BokaBB]

Hurry up!The preffix Ru- is for sale(you can invent its meaning)!
Also,please check Komal - dag belsan!
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[fluffykitty]

You don't need to post it twice.

Edit (1:42): I looked at the "Komal only forum" and it appears that you've used a bunch of features not listed on the sheet (<belsan> for "(forum) thread", generic <shyu>, the word <alg>, <lisko ba> which probably should have been <lisko da>, <nel> as a relative pronoun). I'd complain about that on that thread but apparently we don't have a word for "word", among other things. I propose <rumal> "word", using <ru-> "piece of". We could also derive <runap> "thing" from <nap> "world". We should also have words like <saneo> "to be able to", <derneo> "to want", and <igeo> "to have to".

[BokaBB]

You don't need to post it twice.

Edit (1:42): I looked at the "Komal only forum" and it appears that you've used a bunch of features not listed on the sheet (<belsan> for "(forum) thread", generic <shyu>, the word <alg>, <lisko ba> which probably should have been <lisko da>, <nel> as a relative pronoun). I'd complain about that on that thread but apparently we don't have a word for "word", among other things. I propose <rumal> "word", using <ru-> "piece of". We could also derive <runap> "thing" from <nap> "world". We should also have words like <saneo> "to be able to", <derneo> "to want", and <igeo> "to have to".

Write all them then.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Added words posted in this thread, and the backformation <turad> "lock".

Then I don't think begeo should be to be strong. Just use akeo.

Many languages use constructions like that for sentences like "You are green".

How is <turad> lock if turadeo is to open? And what do you mean by many languages use constructions like that? Do you mean they have verbs for being without using <to be>? I understand that if there isn't a standalone word to <to be>, but otherwise not so much. I guess I can accept this for this language though.

[fluffykitty]

Edit (1:42): I looked at the "Komal only forum" and it appears that you've used a bunch of features not listed on the sheet [...]

Write all them then.

(<belsan> for "(forum) thread", generic <shyu>, the word <alg>, <lisko ba> which probably should have been <lisko da>, <nel> as a relative pronoun)

How is <turad> lock if turadeo is to open?

<turade> is key. What's a key a tool for?

And what do you mean by many languages use constructions like that? Do you mean they have verbs for being without using <to be>? I understand that if there isn't a standalone word to <to be>, but otherwise not so much. I guess I can accept this for this language though.

Languages have verbs for things like "to be green" and stuff. I imagine they also have "to be", but don't use it for things covered by other stative verbs. I imagine that both stative verbs and <akeo> will be used in this language with similar meanings.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

<turade> is key. What's a key a tool for?

Well a key can be used for locking but I think its primary purpose is opening. In Azerbaijani, which is a dialect of Turkish, key is "açkı" and "açmak" (-mak just makes it infinitive) is to open. Turkey Turkish doesn't use that word, we use "anahtar", which is a Greek word, which still comes from "aniχtēri"(ανοιχτήρι)(I don't speak Greek) which when I put put into Google translate says "opener".

[fluffykitty]

Yeah, it's probably a better idea to have a separate root for "lock"/"to close". Also, have you seen the "Komal - dag belsan" thread?

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Yeah, it's probably a better idea to have a separate root for "lock"/"to close". Also, have you seen the "Komal - dag belsan" thread?

Yes, I have, though I don't think I can understand it too well. We haven't even gotten some very basic things done yet. How are we now writing in this language? Could you please look at the chemical CA too?

[fluffykitty]

Yes, I have, though I don't think I can understand it too well.

My posts are written using my version of Komal, Boka's posts are written using theirs, and everyone else's posts aren't Komal.

We haven't even gotten some very basic things done yet. How are we now writing in this language?

Using the words and grammar we already have.

Could you please look at the chemical CA too?

Done. Nothing much to respond to there.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Done. Nothing much to respond to there.

Do we have a suffix to make an adjective a verb? If not, I think we should, also vice versa. Like lock could be "to make closed/locked". There is also a country CA where BokaBB and I can't seem to agree on anything. Could you look there too? Sorry if I sound like I'm demanding stuff from you.

[fluffykitty]

Do we have a suffix to make an adjective a verb? If not, I think we should, also vice versa. Like lock could be "to make closed/locked".

I'm pretty sure we use <-eo> for that as well, although that usually means "to be x", not "to make x". However, we could distinguish the two meanings by transitivity.

There is also a country CA where BokaBB and I can't seem to agree on anything. Could you look there too? Sorry if I sound like I'm demanding stuff from you.

Replied. It's fine.

[BokaBB]

I am sick!I have diarrhea and I am vomiting!We need words for those,as well as for disease.
Please don't expect me to be often active this day.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[fluffykitty]

<goneo> for "to vomit" exists, <gebeg> can be "disease", and "diarrhea" would probably just be "wet poop" if we had words for either of those.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

<goneo> for "to vomit" exists, <gebeg> can be "disease", and "diarrhea" would probably just be "wet poop" if we had words for either of those.

I think diarrhoea should have its own word. Also, the word poop has now been used twice in two posts two days in a row (not including this post) on the forums!

Coprophagy is the eating of poop. The pellets that rabbits eat is exactly that. There is undigested material in rabbit poop so they eat it twice, like cows chewing their cud.

[fluffykitty]

There haven't been any posts here for quite a while. What's up with that?

[Schiaparelliorbust]

There haven't been any posts here for quite a while. What's up with that?

Might be my last post. Sorry.
Edit: This post was unrespondable to, so I'm going to ask, can we please not do anything until we agree on phonology? I'm ready to compromise, but others must too. I can't accept everything else someone wants.