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Meteorological CA

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A project for a complex multi - state CA that can simulate atmospheric processes like air pressure, temperature,cloud cover, various precipitations,cloud types and also the things like whether the place is on the land or sea,wall that is a border and prevents things from escaping,a loop wall that can allow the weather observation on a planet....
I guess we can't place this all,but should use small scale for things like temperature.
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Re: Meteorological CA

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BokaBB wrote: October 30th, 2020, 7:50 am A project for a complex multi - state CA that can simulate atmospheric processes like air pressure, temperature,cloud cover, various precipitations,cloud types and also the things like whether the place is on the land or sea,wall that is a border and prevents things from escaping,a loop wall that can allow the weather observation on a planet....
I guess we can't place this all,but should use small scale for things like temperature.
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Yes this sounds feasible. Temperature shouldn't be too hard I think. Water changing phases could be hard to make though. This CA should also have gravity, or else it simply wouldn't work.
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Re: Meteorological CA

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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 30th, 2020, 8:26 am
BokaBB wrote: October 30th, 2020, 7:50 am A project for a complex multi - state CA that can simulate atmospheric processes like air pressure, temperature,cloud cover, various precipitations,cloud types and also the things like whether the place is on the land or sea,wall that is a border and prevents things from escaping,a loop wall that can allow the weather observation on a planet....
I guess we can't place this all,but should use small scale for things like temperature.
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Yes this sounds feasible. Temperature shouldn't be too hard I think. Water changing phases could be hard to make though. This CA should also have gravity, or else it simply wouldn't work.
Just pushing this if you are open for it.
I was thinking for the rule to look like a meteorological map,but your version appears easier to compute.
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Re: Meteorological CA

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BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 6:26 am Just pushing this if you are open for it.
I was thinking for the rule to look like a meteorological map,but your version appears easier to compute.
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That actually sounds much easier to make. Just simple numbers on a map.
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Re: Meteorological CA

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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 6:32 am
BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 6:26 am Just pushing this if you are open for it.
I was thinking for the rule to look like a meteorological map,but your version appears easier to compute.
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That actually sounds much easier to make. Just simple numbers on a map.
But you will need zilloin states for different temperature,precipitations,climate,land and sea,air pressure.... Solution?
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Re: Meteorological CA

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BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 6:34 am But you will need zilloin states for different temperature,precipitations,climate,land and sea,air pressure.... Solution?
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Yes, I didn't think of that.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 6:35 am
BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 6:34 am But you will need zilloin states for different temperature,precipitations,climate,land and sea,air pressure.... Solution?
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Yes, I didn't think of that.
My belief is that we either need separate CA for these or to make scales have very few grades if we want a map. Your method sounds more possible.
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Re: Meteorological CA

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BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 6:38 am My belief is that we either need separate CA for these or to make scales have very few grades if we want a map. Your method sounds more possible.
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I think using only one CA would be better. The map idea has too many states as you said, so we should do my idea.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:03 am
BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 6:38 am My belief is that we either need separate CA for these or to make scales have very few grades if we want a map. Your method sounds more possible.
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I think using only one CA would be better. The map idea has too many states as you said, so we should do my idea.
Okay.
What are your current plans?
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Re: Meteorological CA

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BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:06 am Okay.
What are your current plans?
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First of all, vacuum cells should cycle through I think 6 states signifying the time of day. Water should evaporate more during the day. Water should also retain its heat for a while.
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Re: Meteorological CA

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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:08 am
BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:06 am Okay.
What are your current plans?
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First of all, vacuum cells should cycle through I think 6 states signifying the time of day. Water should evaporate more during the day. Water should also retain its heat for a while.
Vacuum?Better air,there is no vacuum at Earth. Or you think about the vacuum far up in the sky?
Please write the complete list of properties of cells we need if you can. Later please attempt the same with optical CA.
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BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:11 am Vacuum?Better air,there is no vacuum at Earth. Or you think about the vacuum far up in the sky?
Please write the complete list of properties of cells we need if you can. Later please attempt the same with optical CA.
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Thanks for pointing that out, I forgot. I think there should be some sort of casing cell to simulate the whole system in or else air would flow outside.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:14 am
BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:11 am Vacuum?Better air,there is no vacuum at Earth. Or you think about the vacuum far up in the sky?
Please write the complete list of properties of cells we need if you can. Later please attempt the same with optical CA.
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Thanks for pointing that out, I forgot. I think there should be some sort of casing cell to simulate the whole system in or else air would flow outside.
Yes,wall that I mentioned. Also loop wall to simulate a planet - like environment.
Making clouds form will be tough.
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BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:17 am Yes,wall that I mentioned. Also loop wall to simulate a planet - like environment.
Making clouds form will be tough.
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I don't think there should be a "planet". Clouds could form when there's enough moisture in one area.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:19 am
BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:17 am Yes,wall that I mentioned. Also loop wall to simulate a planet - like environment.
Making clouds form will be tough.
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I don't think there should be a "planet". Clouds could form when there's enough moisture in one area.
Not sure. I think we need it to be realistic since the wall will make particles bounce.
There are 10 main types of clouds and many subtypes and varieties.
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BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:21 am Not sure. I think we need it to be realistic since the wall will make particles bounce.
There are 10 main types of clouds and many subtypes and varieties.
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We can't have 10 different types of clouds - even one type is enough. The wall will be like a box. I don't understand your logic.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:27 am
BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:21 am Not sure. I think we need it to be realistic since the wall will make particles bounce.
There are 10 main types of clouds and many subtypes and varieties.
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We can't have 10 different types of clouds - even one type is enough. The wall will be like a box. I don't understand your logic.
You didn't studied clouds. I spent a couple of months reading only about them about a year ago.
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It will help you to see that air will bounce once it hits something solid.
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Re: Meteorological CA

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BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:32 am You didn't studied clouds. I spent a couple of months reading only about them about a year ago.
Please install TPT,you don't have to make account but make it recognizable if you have.
It will help you to see that air will bounce once it hits something solid.
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I might install it, but what difference does my idea make? I know that air bounces off solid surfaces. If we make the roof high enough, it shouldn't affect clouds too much.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:39 am
BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:32 am You didn't studied clouds. I spent a couple of months reading only about them about a year ago.
Please install TPT,you don't have to make account but make it recognizable if you have.
It will help you to see that air will bounce once it hits something solid.
I have an ecology group there,feel free to join!I am BokkaB there instead of BokaBB. Except that my work is very uninteresting and I still don't know a lot of things there.
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I might install it, but what difference does my idea make? I know that air bounces off solid surfaces. If we make the roof high enough, it shouldn't affect clouds too much.
Okay,but we also can make the beginning of the vacuum very high to minimize matter loss.
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BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:42 am Okay,but we also can make the beginning of the vacuum very high to minimize matter loss.
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Gravity might not work as intended though. How will we make sure that gravity stops air from escaping? Maybe thinner air should be affected more. I think it should be uniformly strong.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:46 am
BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:42 am Okay,but we also can make the beginning of the vacuum very high to minimize matter loss.
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Gravity might not work as intended though. How will we make sure that gravity stops air from escaping? Maybe thinner air should be affected more. I think it should be uniformly strong.
Your two last sentences are somewhat contradictory.
I think gravity mustn't be constant but instead created by some kind of gravity pratform deep below the surface.
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BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:48 am Your two last sentences are somewhat contradictory.
I think gravity mustn't be constant but instead created by some kind of gravity pratform deep below the surface.
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What I mean is gravity shouldn't change depending on height. Ground cells should automatically create gravity above them until it hits a wall. Gravity should affect thin air more because pressure has less effect so gravity has more effect. Thin air can't support itself as well as thick air.
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Schiaparelliorbust wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 8:03 am
BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 7:48 am Your two last sentences are somewhat contradictory.
I think gravity mustn't be constant but instead created by some kind of gravity pratform deep below the surface.
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What I mean is gravity shouldn't change depending on height. Ground cells should automatically create gravity above them until it hits a wall. Gravity should affect thin air more because pressure has less effect so gravity has more effect. Thin air can't support itself as well as thick air.
Understand,but gravity weakens with height.
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BokaBB wrote: November 2nd, 2020, 8:23 am Understand,but gravity weakens with height.
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Gravity weakens very slowly. Even on the ISS it's 0.9G. They just don't feel it because they're going so fast. I will look for other people.
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