Chemical CA
Chemical CA
Chemical CA are my new project that aims to make a multi - state cellular automaton with states that will behave very similarly to real life chemical elements.
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Re: Chemical CA
Ok, let's start with a simple CA that can simulate combustion (burning). It will have carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen.BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 12:11 pm Chemical CA are my new project that aims to make a multi - state cellular automaton with states that will behave very similarly to real life chemical elements.
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Re: Chemical CA
nahSchiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 12:12 pmOk, let's start with a simple CA that can simulate combustion (burning). It will have carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen.BokaBB wrote: October 27th, 2020, 12:11 pm Chemical CA are my new project that aims to make a multi - state cellular automaton with states that will behave very similarly to real life chemical elements.
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just make a ca that models a very simple artificial chemistry (I described one earlier)
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Re: Chemical CA
Moosey wrote: October 27th, 2020, 1:18 pmWell you did say let's make a carbon/oxygen CA, and isn't that what burning is (minus the hydrogen)? Valence electrons would be too complicated I think.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 12:12 pm nah
just make a ca that models a very simple artificial chemistry (I described one earlier)
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Yeah, but a specific goal such as burning may be a bit too specific; I think we should make something that models a very simple artificial chemistry. The system I described earlier would not involve valence electrons, but simply limits set on types of bonds that can form.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 2:39 pmWeird quotes what wrote: October 27th, 2020, 1:18 pmWell you did say let's make a carbon/oxygen CA, and isn't that what burning is (minus the hydrogen)? Valence electrons would be too complicated I think.Musi wrote: October 27th, 2020, 12:12 pm nah
just make a ca that models a very simple artificial chemistry (I described one earlier)
κ is measurable iff there is a nontrivial elementary embedding j:V→M (M transitive) with critical point κ
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Re: Chemical CA
Just saying that we could start simpler to see if it even works. It would be a huge disappointment if we made more states and it didn't work because of a fundamental flaw.Moosey wrote: October 27th, 2020, 3:02 pmYeah, but a specific goal such as burning may be a bit too specific; I think we should make something that models a very simple artificial chemistry. The system I described earlier would not involve valence electrons, but simply limits set on types of bonds that can form.
Did you change my name to weird quotes what because I quoted without saying much on your thread?
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no I changed it to weird quotes what because the quotes in the post I quoted were weird, and what I said was what you said and vice versaSchiaparelliorbust wrote: October 27th, 2020, 3:12 pmJust saying that we could start simpler to see if it even works. It would be a huge disappointment if we made more states and it didn't work because of a fundamental flaw.Moosey wrote: October 27th, 2020, 3:02 pmYeah, but a specific goal such as burning may be a bit too specific; I think we should make something that models a very simple artificial chemistry. The system I described earlier would not involve valence electrons, but simply limits set on types of bonds that can form.
Did you change my name to weird quotes what because I quoted without saying much on your thread?
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Re: Chemical CA
Let you join where? No one's stopping you from posting here.
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Re: Chemical CA
You are progressing too fast, as if it were a progressive chess game.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 28th, 2020, 3:16 amLet you join where? No one's stopping you from posting here.
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Re: Chemical CA
Ok then, to recap, I think we should make a CA that can simulate combustion(burning) with hydrogen, carbon, and oxygen. We should make it as a proof of concept before we start making something bigger.Hunting wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:04 am You are progressing too fast, as if it were a progressive chess game.
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You can also use TPT as a reference.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:07 amOk then, to recap, I think we should make a CA that can simulate combustion(burning) with hydrogen, carbon, and oxygen. We should make it as a proof of concept before we start making something bigger.Hunting wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:04 am You are progressing too fast, as if it were a progressive chess game.
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Re: Chemical CA
What is TPT?
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Re: Chemical CA
I just looked it up, never heard about it before but I guess we can use it. Though in this CA I don't want gravity. Molecules should move on their own. What should happen when they collide? Remember we are using the Moore neighbourhood so we can't instantly make larger molecules bring smaller molecules with them or have them stop altogether.
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I think you can turn off gravity in TPT, but I can't check right now - ask BokaBB.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:16 amI just looked it up, never heard about it before but I guess we can use it. Though in this CA I don't want gravity. Molecules should move on their own. What should happen when they collide? Remember we are using the Moore neighbourhood so we can't instantly make larger molecules bring smaller molecules with them or have them stop altogether.
Re: Collision, they do what they should do in real life.
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Re: Chemical CA
If they don't chemically react they should just rebound, going in the opposite directions that they came from. Bu that could be challenging to make, especially with large molecules because you have to have the whole molecule start moving at the same time. You can't have a few atoms start moving before others.Hunting wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:17 amI think you can turn off gravity in TPT, but I can't check right now - ask BokaBB.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:16 amI just looked it up, never heard about it before but I guess we can use it. Though in this CA I don't want gravity. Molecules should move on their own. What should happen when they collide? Remember we are using the Moore neighbourhood so we can't instantly make larger molecules bring smaller molecules with them or have them stop altogether.
Re: Collision, they do what they should do in real life.
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Bonds can conduct force. When one atom begins to move, the rest of the molecule is pulled.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:21 amIf they don't chemically react they should just rebound, going in the opposite directions that they came from. Bu that could be challenging to make, especially with large molecules because you have to have the whole molecule start moving at the same time. You can't have a few atoms start moving before others.Hunting wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:17 amI think you can turn off gravity in TPT, but I can't check right now - ask BokaBB.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:16 am
I just looked it up, never heard about it before but I guess we can use it. Though in this CA I don't want gravity. Molecules should move on their own. What should happen when they collide? Remember we are using the Moore neighbourhood so we can't instantly make larger molecules bring smaller molecules with them or have them stop altogether.
Re: Collision, they do what they should do in real life.
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But we're using the Moore neighbourhood. Influence can only move so fast.Hunting wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:46 am Bonds can conduct force. When one atom begins to move, the rest of the molecule is pulled.
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A few atoms start moving before others is not that much of a problem, especially when we're at a macro perspective.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:48 amBut we're using the Moore neighbourhood. Influence can only move so fast.Hunting wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:46 am Bonds can conduct force. When one atom begins to move, the rest of the molecule is pulled.
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Re: Chemical CA
So if we have something like a polymer one end will start moving before others. I don't know, maybe that would make it even more realistic because polymers can bend.Hunting wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:50 amA few atoms start moving before others is not that much of a problem, especially when we're at a macro perspective.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:48 amBut we're using the Moore neighbourhood. Influence can only move so fast.Hunting wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:46 am Bonds can conduct force. When one atom begins to move, the rest of the molecule is pulled.
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Yes,that is possible. I have TPT, altrough currently inactive.Hunting wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:17 amI think you can turn off gravity in TPT, but I can't check right now - ask BokaBB.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 28th, 2020, 6:16 amI just looked it up, never heard about it before but I guess we can use it. Though in this CA I don't want gravity. Molecules should move on their own. What should happen when they collide? Remember we are using the Moore neighbourhood so we can't instantly make larger molecules bring smaller molecules with them or have them stop altogether.
Re: Collision, they do what they should do in real life.
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Re: Chemical CA
Ok, can we get started on designing the combustion CA?
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Yes!Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 28th, 2020, 10:14 am Ok, can we get started on designing the combustion CA?
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Re: Chemical CA
Yes, I saw that too. I will post there. I think the combustion CA should have heat.BokaBB wrote: October 28th, 2020, 10:17 amYes!Schiaparelliorbust wrote: October 28th, 2020, 10:14 am Ok, can we get started on designing the combustion CA?
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