Let's create a language!

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Agree. Then CH should be /x/ like H in Chinese.

I was thinking of getting rid of ch altogether but ok good idea.

D is currently /d/ - to make things wierder, how 'bout /t/? Like Danish and 彝族语言.

I don't know. I mean d is /t/ in English sometimes like "talked". If we are going to have different letters stand for different sounds and/or vice versa, we should have precise rules on where to use what. French is a good example of this.

[Hunting]

I was thinking of getting rid of ch altogether but ok good idea.

D is currently /d/ - to make things wierder, how 'bout /t/? Like Danish and 彝族语言.

I don't know. I mean d is /t/ in English sometimes like "talked". If we are going to have different letters stand for different sounds and/or vice versa, we should have precise rules on where to use what. French is a good example of this.

Yeah. We are going to.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

I don't know. I mean d is /t/ in English sometimes like "talked". If we are going to have different letters stand for different sounds and/or vice versa, we should have precise rules on where to use what. French is a good example of this.

Yeah. We are going to.

I mean it shouldn't be like English with vague rules and of tons of exceptions. French orthography is very well defined; once you learn the rules, practically no word is beyond your reach of pronunciation.

[BokaBB]

I won't allow the same sound to be represented by two or more different letters. This language MUST be well organised.
Schaparelio agreed on my sound for sh and I vote for my suggestion on it.
Ch should either be the sound Č (can't find its value now) or the sound t + curve (Ć is it I think). Better first.
/c/ is too weak and /ts/ is better.
Night is Zemeu and not Zimeu,I made a mistake.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

I won't allow the same sound to be represented by two or more different letters. This language MUST be well organised.
Schaparelio agreed on my sound for sh and I vote for my suggestion on it.
Ch should either be the sound Č (can't find its value now) or the sound t + curve (Ć is it I think). Better first.
/c/ is too weak and /ts/ is better.
Night is Zemeu and not Zimeu,I made a mistake.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

If you don't want the same sound to be represented by two different letters than we should find another sound for c because if we use your suggestion for c the the letters ts and c would have the same sounds.

[Hunting]

I won't allow the same sound to be represented by two or more different letters. This language MUST be well organised.
Schaparelio agreed on my sound for sh and I vote for my suggestion on it.
Ch should either be the sound Č (can't find its value now) or the sound t + curve (Ć is it I think). Better first.
/c/ is too weak and /ts/ is better.
Night is Zemeu and not Zimeu,I made a mistake.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

If you don't want the same sound to be represented by two different letters than we should find another sound for c because if we use your suggestion for c the the letters ts and c would have the same sounds.

Move on now. Do we all agree on letter E?

Since when are you Schaparelio?

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Move on now. Do we all agree on letter E?

Since when are you Schaparelio?

I say e is /ɛ/, I think we agree on this. Ask BokaBB too.

Since this:

I am not really sure. I am not that often reading about IPA sounds.
Other proposals about the words with more than 1 syllable and no preffixes or suffixes?
Schaparellio,your words sound Turkish. I hope they aren't real Turkish words. I don't want the language to sound like Turkish.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[BokaBB]

I won't allow the same sound to be represented by two or more different letters. This language MUST be well organised.
Schaparelio agreed on my sound for sh and I vote for my suggestion on it.
Ch should either be the sound Č (can't find its value now) or the sound t + curve (Ć is it I think). Better first.
/c/ is too weak and /ts/ is better.
Night is Zemeu and not Zimeu,I made a mistake.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

If you don't want the same sound to be represented by two different letters than we should find another sound for c because if we use your suggestion for c the the letters ts and c would have the same sounds.

Move on now. Do we all agree on letter E?

Since when are you Schaparelio?

E is /e/.
Ts letter combination should not exist and will be replaced with c anywhere where it appears.
Schaparelio is a my shorter surname for Schaparelliorbust since his name is long.
-p is -ep if the word ends with a consonant
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

We should vote on sounds. Only those who have contributed something to this language can vote.

[BokaBB]

E -/e/
A -/a/
I - /i/
Ch - Č(not sure about IPA sound)
Zh - weird Z (I am currently on laptop)
Ae - turned A or ae
Y - /j/
C - /ts/
Sh - s with a curve
Saka and Moosey can't vote since they haven't contributed absolutely anything.
Eu - time
Abni - far,distant
Ab- or aba- (the second if the word begins with a consonant) - a preffix for something far and distant
Ko - common
Geko - uncommon
Ge- - independently means no,negates things or decreases intensity as a preffix
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

E -/e/
A -/a/
I - /i/
Ch - Č(not sure about IPA sound)
Zh - weird Z (I am currently on laptop)
Ae - turned A or ae
Y - /j/
C - /ts/
Sh - s with a curve
Saka and Moosey can't vote since they haven't contributed absolutely anything.
Eu - time
Abni - far,distant
Ab- or aba- (the second if the word begins with a consonant) - a preffix for something far and distant
Ko - common
Geko - uncommon
Ge- - independently means no,negates things or decreases intensity as a preffix
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

I'm not sure about Saka but Moosey sure has contributed.
e = /ɛ/
a = /ɐ/
i = /ɪ/
ch = /x/
zh = /d̠ʒ/ or /ʒ/
j = /d̠ʒ/ or /ʒ/
ae = /a/
y = /j/
c = /t̠ʃ/
sh = /ʂ/

Let's also vote on whether we should have w (/w/) and th (/θ/ and/or /ð/). Give my vote on j and zh to the majority. For your vote to count, please write the sounds in IPA.

[BokaBB]

I have a proposal for this language's name:Komal (literally ,,common speech"). It won't be approved unless 3 users voted for it. You only can vote if you have made at least one post here before this one. I won't vote.
When creating new words be careful with the suffixes -ut,
-e and -p,as well as this preffix:
Ap- indicates that something is artificial (Aprigep - street light,literally ,,artificial star"). Can stand alone in the sentences like this: That thing is artificial.
These allow expressivity when creating new words,but also can make problems if their existence is forgotten.
Le - this
Able - that (correct me if these were already made)
Haven't we made concensus about a as /a/,e as /e/ and i as /i/?Whoever wins,we need a compromise. The solution should include something from everyone's ideas. I don't think the language should be without /a/.
What Moosey contributed?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

I have a proposal for this language's name:Komal (literally ,,common speech). It won't be approved unless 3 users voted for it. You only can vote if you have made at least one post here before this one. I won't vote.
When creating new words be careful with the suffixes -ut,
-e and -p,as well as this preffix:
Ap- indicates that something is artificial (Aprigep - street light,literally ,,artificial star"). Can stand alone in the sentences like this: That thing is artificial.
These allow expressivity when creating new words,but also can make problems if their existence is forgotten.
Le - this
Able - that (correct me if these were already made)
Haven't we made concensus about a as /a/,e as /e/ and i as /i/?Whoever wins,we need a compromise.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

No we hadn't made consensus. Please read posts that were posted when you weren't here. Also, I edited my above post so please look at the edits.

[BokaBB]

I have a proposal for this language's name:Komal (literally ,,common speech). It won't be approved unless 3 users voted for it. You only can vote if you have made at least one post here before this one. I won't vote.
When creating new words be careful with the suffixes -ut,
-e and -p,as well as this preffix:
Ap- indicates that something is artificial (Aprigep - street light,literally ,,artificial star"). Can stand alone in the sentences like this: That thing is artificial.
These allow expressivity when creating new words,but also can make problems if their existence is forgotten.
Le - this
Able - that (correct me if these were already made)
Haven't we made concensus about a as /a/,e as /e/ and i as /i/?Whoever wins,we need a compromise.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

No we hadn't made consensus. Please read posts that were posted when you weren't here. Also, I edited my above post so please look at the edits.

It should have /a/. I think you accepted ae to be the sound you desire. I would like for a to be /a/. It is more logical.
Do you accept the name Komal?
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

No we hadn't made consensus. Please read posts that were posted when you weren't here. Also, I edited my above post so please look at the edits.

It should have /a/. I think you accepted ae to be the sound you desire. I would like for a to be /a/. It is more logical.
Do you accept the name Komal?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

I did that just to get somewhere in the argument really. I'm keeping my vote. Sorry. I'm not sure about the name yet. There is no deadline for voting yet. You saw what I wrote about using IPA for your vote to count, right?

[MathAndCode]

I suspect that using diagraphs to make a single sound is going to make the language unnecessarily complicated.
Also, what if, for the consonants, we 'use different base symbols for different places and use different accents for different manners (or the other way around)?

[Schiaparelliorbust]

I suspect that using diagraphs to make a single sound is going to make the language unnecessarily complicated.
Also, what if, for the consonants, we 'use different base symbols for different places and use different accents for different manners (or the other way around)?

What do you mean by "base symbols"?

[BokaBB]

No we hadn't made consensus. Please read posts that were posted when you weren't here. Also, I edited my above post so please look at the edits.

It should have /a/. I think you accepted ae to be the sound you desire. I would like for a to be /a/. It is more logical.
Do you accept the name Komal?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

I did that just to get somewhere in the argument really. I'm keeping my vote. Sorry. I'm not sure about the name yet. There is no deadline for voting yet. You saw what I wrote about using IPA for your vote to count, right?

Cannot on laptop. It doesn't matter if I make clear what sounds I think about.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[MathAndCode]

I suspect that using diagraphs to make a single sound is going to make the language unnecessarily complicated.
Also, what if, for the consonants, we 'use different base symbols for different places and use different accents for different manners (or the other way around)?

What do you mean by "base symbols"?

any sort of character, most likely letters from the Latin alphabet

[Schiaparelliorbust]

I suspect that using diagraphs to make a single sound is going to make the language unnecessarily complicated.
Also, what if, for the consonants, we 'use different base symbols for different places and use different accents for different manners (or the other way around)?

What do you mean by "base symbols"?

any sort of character, most likely letters from the Latin alphabet

Please elaborate.

[MathAndCode]

Please elaborate.

As only a demonstration of concept that does not reflect my intentions for which specific symbols should correspond to which specific sounds, maybe n̄ will represent a bilabial fricative, ṅ will represent a bilabial plosive, v̄ will represent an alveolar fricative, and v̇ will represent an alveolar plosive.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Please elaborate.

As only a demonstration of concept that does not reflect my intentions for which specific symbols should correspond to which specific sounds, maybe n̄ will represent a bilabial fricative, ṅ will represent a bilabial plosive, v̄ will represent an alveolar fricative, and v̇ will represent an alveolar plosive.

Maybe. I didn't actually consider that at all. You mean like the accents in French, è and é, right?

[MathAndCode]

Maybe. I didn't actually consider that at all. You mean like the accents in French, è and é, right?

Any combining characters would work.

[BokaBB]

We should remove zh. We haven't really used it yet.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

We should remove zh. We haven't really used it yet.
Elkeo beo rigeu!

BokaBB

Just because we haven't used it doesn't mean we should remove it. We haven't used y or z afaik, but they're both in the language.