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For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns in Conway's Game of Life, both newly-discovered and well-known.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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first real post, hehe. i've never seen this reaction mentioned -- a blinker at the edge of a fleet shifts it 2 cells diagonally in 26 ticks:

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x = 14, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$3b2o$b2o8b3o$obo5b2o$2o5bobo$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$4b2o!
it can be made into a shuttle with a source of blinkers:

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x = 42, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
3b2o16b2o$3bo5b2o4b2o5bo$4b3obobo4bobob3o$6bobo8bobo$7b2o8b2o3$5b2o12b
2o$5b2o12b2o2$8bo$8bobo$8b3o5$2b2o$3bo$3o$o18b2o$19bobo$20b2o$22b2o$
15b2o5bobo$15bobo5b2o$16b2o$18b2o21bo$18bobo18b3o$19b2o17bo$38b2o5$31b
3o$31bobo$33bo2$21b2o12b2o$21b2o12b2o3$23b2o8b2o$22bobo8bobo$20b3obobo
4bobob3o$19bo5b2o4b2o5bo$19b2o16b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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Not sure how these cordership puffers/reactions might be useful but I'm putting them here anyways.

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x = 1805, y = 719, rule = B3/S23
23$110bo$109bob2o$113bo$107bo3bo2bo$105bo9bo11b3o$105bo4b2o2b2o$114b2o
$107bo5bo1652bo$108bo4b3o1649bob2o$109bo4b2o12b3o5b2o1631bo$111b4o12b
2ob2o4b2o1052bo572bo3bo2bo$126bobob2o1057bob2o568bo9bo11b3o$126bo3bo
1062bo567bo4b2o2b2o$127bo2bo9b2o1045bo3bo2bo575b2o$127b3o10b2o1043bo9b
o11b3o553bo5bo$135b2o3bo1044bo4b2o2b2o568bo4b3o$134b4ob2o1053b2o569bo
4b2o12b3o5b2o$135bobo2bo1046bo5bo573b4o12b2ob2o4b2o$1188bo4b3o586bobob
2o$139bob2o1046bo4b2o12b3o5b2o564bo3bo$122bo18bo504bo544b4o12b2ob2o4b
2o565bo2bo9b2o$116b2o3b3o521bob2o557bobob2o571b3o10b2o$116b2o3bo2bo4b
3o517bo556bo3bo580b2o3bo$103b2o16b3obo2b2ob2o510bo3bo2bo556bo2bo9b2o
568b4ob2o$103b3o15b2o2bo2b2o2bo508bo9bo11b3o541b3o10b2o569bobo2bo$103b
2obo15b2o6b2o509bo4b2o2b2o563b2o3bo$107bo12bo3bo525b2o562b4ob2o574bob
2o$99bo3b2o3bo534bo5bo565bobo2bo557bo18bo$109bo11bo522bo4b3o1120b2o3b
3o$106bobo11bo2bo521bo4b2o12b3o5b2o545bob2o549b2o3bo2bo4b3o$106bo13b4o
523b4o12b2ob2o4b2o528bo18bo537b2o16b3obo2b2ob2o$101bo4bobo12bo540bobob
2o528b2o3b3o555b3o15b2o2bo2b2o2bo$662bo3bo529b2o3bo2bo4b3o547b2obo15b
2o6b2o$105b4o554bo2bo9b2o505b2o16b3obo2b2ob2o550bo12bo3bo$105b2o556b3o
10b2o505b3o15b2o2bo2b2o2bo542bo3b2o3bo$671b2o3bo506b2obo15b2o6b2o553bo
11bo$670b4ob2o510bo12bo3bo557bobo11bo2bo$100b3o568bobo2bo502bo3b2o3bo
573bo13b4o$99bo2bo1086bo11bo555bo4bobo12bo$98bo4bo571bob2o507bobo11bo
2bo$98bo2b3o554bo18bo508bo13b4o557b4o$98bo5bo11b2o534b2o3b3o521bo4bobo
12bo559b2o$99b7o10b2o534b2o3bo2bo4b3o$105bo533b2o16b3obo2b2ob2o516b4o$
105bo533b3o15b2o2bo2b2o2bo516b2o569b3o$103b2o534b2obo15b2o6b2o1087bo2b
o$643bo12bo3bo1093bo4bo$635bo3b2o3bo535b3o571bo2b3o$645bo11bo521bo2bo
571bo5bo11b2o$102bo21b2o516bobo11bo2bo518bo4bo571b7o10b2o$101bobo20b2o
516bo13b4o518bo2b3o577bo$100b2obo533bo4bobo12bo520bo5bo11b2o563bo$100b
2o1077b7o10b2o561b2o$101b3o537b4o540bo$102bo538b2o542bo$103bo2bo1076b
2o$107bo1650bo21b2o$107bo528b3o1118bobo20b2o$99bo5b3o527bo2bo1117b2obo
$91bo6bobo533bo4bo542bo21b2o550b2o$87b2obobo4bo536bo2b3o541bobo20b2o
551b3o$87bo2b2ob2o539bo5bo11b2o526b2obo574bo$87bo5bobo4bo534b7o10b2o
526b2o577bo2bo$88b2o2bo8bo539bo539b3o579bo$92bo2b3o2bo540bo540bo580bo$
92b3o544b2o542bo2bo568bo5b3o$65bobo1119bo559bo6bobo$65bobobo7bo1109bo
555b2obobo4bo$64bo2b2obo4b3o1101bo5b3o555bo2b2ob2o$65b2o3bobob2obo560b
o21b2o509bo6bobo562bo5bobo4bo$65b2o3b2ob5o10b3o546bobo20b2o505b2obobo
4bo566b2o2bo8bo$69bob2o3b2o10bobo545b2obo527bo2b2ob2o573bo2b3o2bo$68bo
bo16b2ob2o544b2o529bo5bobo4bo567b3o$87b2o548b3o528b2o2bo8bo539bobo$
638bo533bo2b3o2bo540bobobo7bo$639bo2bo529b3o545bo2b2obo4b3o$90bo18bo
533bo501bobo573b2o3bobob2obo$90bo18bobo531bo501bobobo7bo563b2o3b2ob5o
10b3o$109b2o524bo5b3o500bo2b2obo4b3o567bob2o3b2o10bobo$84b3o540bo6bobo
508b2o3bobob2obo566bobo16b2ob2o$83bo3bo535b2obobo4bo511b2o3b2ob5o10b3o
572b2o$82bo4bo535bo2b2ob2o518bob2o3b2o10bobo$72b2obo5bo3b2o3bo532bo5bo
bo4bo511bobo16b2ob2o$68bo3b6o11bo534b2o2bo8bo529b2o577bo18bo$67bo5bo4b
o2b2o6b3o536bo2b3o2bo1109bo18bobo$67bo11bo548b3o1134b2o$68bo9bo522bobo
566bo18bo550b3o$73bo527bobobo7bo556bo18bobo547bo3bo$73bo2bo523bo2b2obo
4b3o575b2o547bo4bo$75bo525b2o3bobob2obo550b3o561b2obo5bo3b2o3bo$601b2o
3b2ob5o10b3o536bo3bo556bo3b6o11bo$605bob2o3b2o10bobo535bo4bo555bo5bo4b
o2b2o6b3o$75b2o527bobo16b2ob2o524b2obo5bo3b2o3bo552bo11bo$75b2o546b2o
523bo3b6o11bo554bo9bo$1147bo5bo4bo2b2o6b3o557bo$46bobo1098bo11bo569bo
2bo$45bo580bo18bo502bo9bo572bo$46bo2bo576bo18bobo505bo$48bobo594b2o
506bo2bo$51bo11b3o554b3o532bo575b2o$50b3o566bo3bo1107b2o$50bo567bo4bo$
48b2o558b2obo5bo3b2o3bo528b2o545bobo$50bo13b3o537bo3b6o11bo529b2o544bo
$33bo14bo2bo12b3o5b2o529bo5bo4bo2b2o6b3o1074bo2bo$32bobo13bobo13b2o6b
2o529bo11bo510bobo575bobo$48bo14bo540bo9bo510bo581bo11b3o$32bo2bo3bob
3o17b2o2bo543bo516bo2bo576b3o$34bo4bo22bo3bo26bo515bo2bo515bobo575bo$
35bob2obobo19bo2bo27bobo515bo519bo11b3o558b2o$36b2o3bo21b3o27b2o1035b
3o573bo13b3o$37bo1092bo558bo14bo2bo12b3o5b2o$80b2o529b2o515b2o558bobo
13bobo13b2o6b2o$80b2o529b2o517bo13b3o557bo14bo$1113bo14bo2bo12b3o5b2o
534bo2bo3bob3o17b2o2bo$44bo537bobo527bobo13bobo13b2o6b2o536bo4bo22bo3b
o26bo$44bo5b3o528bo546bo14bo547bob2obobo19bo2bo27bobo$43bobo3b2o2bo
528bo2bo526bo2bo3bob3o17b2o2bo546b2o3bo21b3o27b2o$44bo3bo5bo529bobo
527bo4bo22bo3bo26bo519bo$44bo3bo538bo11b3o513bob2obobo19bo2bo27bobo
560b2o$49bo2b2o25bo8b2o496b3o527b2o3bo21b3o27b2o561b2o$20bobo27b2o26bo
bo7b2o496bo530bo$19bo58bobo503b2o574b2o538bo$20bo2bo54bo2bo504bo13b3o
557b2o538bo5b3o$22bobo54bobo487bo14bo2bo12b3o5b2o1089bobo3b2o2bo$25bo
56bo485bobo13bobo13b2o6b2o514bo575bo3bo5bo$24b3o54b2o501bo14bo524bo5b
3o567bo3bo$24bo56bo486bo2bo3bob3o17b2o2bo521bobo3b2o2bo571bo2b2o25bo8b
2o$22b2o546bo4bo22bo3bo26bo494bo3bo5bo541bobo27b2o26bobo7b2o$24bo546bo
b2obobo19bo2bo27bobo492bo3bo546bo58bobo$22bo2bo31bo514b2o3bo21b3o27b2o
498bo2b2o25bo8b2o506bo2bo54bo2bo$22bobo31bob2o513bo526bobo27b2o26bobo
7b2o508bobo54bobo$22bo36b2o555b2o481bo58bobo520bo56bo$54bo6bo554b2o
482bo2bo54bo2bo518b3o54b2o$53bo3b4o1041bobo54bobo518bo56bo$54bo4bo520b
o524bo56bo515b2o$580bo5b3o515b3o54b2o517bo$579bobo3b2o2bo514bo56bo516b
o2bo31bo$580bo3bo5bo511b2o574bobo31bob2o$60b3o517bo3bo519bo573bo36b2o$
59bo3bo521bo2b2o25bo8b2o476bo2bo31bo572bo6bo$60b2o494bobo27b2o26bobo7b
2o476bobo31bob2o569bo3b4o$26b2o34b2ob2o488bo58bobo485bo36b2o569bo4bo$
26b2o36b2o490bo2bo54bo2bo516bo6bo$558bobo54bobo515bo3b4o$561bo56bo515b
o4bo$53bo506b3o54b2o1097b3o$52bobo505bo56bo1097bo3bo$52bobo503b2o1156b
2o$52bo2bo504bo579b3o539b2o34b2ob2o$34b2o17bobo502bo2bo31bo545bo3bo
538b2o36b2o$34b2o20bo501bobo31bob2o544b2o$55b2o501bo36b2o509b2o34b2ob
2o$55bo534bo6bo508b2o36b2o563bo$589bo3b4o1111bobo$590bo4bo1112bobo$
1133bo574bo2bo$1132bobo555b2o17bobo$42b2o1088bobo555b2o20bo$42b2o552b
3o533bo2bo575b2o$595bo3bo514b2o17bobo575bo$596b2o516b2o20bo$562b2o34b
2ob2o532b2o$562b2o36b2o533bo2$1698b2o$589bo1108b2o$588bobo$588bobo531b
2o597bo$588bo2bo530b2o597bo$570b2o17bobo1131bo5bo$570b2o20bo1129bo6bob
o$591b2o1128bo3bo2bo$591bo1130bo2bobob2o$1727bob2o$1741b2o$1741b2o2$
578b2o$578b2o4$1749b2o$1749b2o$1730b2o3bo$1728b3o4b2o$1723b3obo8b2o$
1727bobo2b5o$1728bo3b3o3$1715bo$1715bo7bo$1715bo5b3o$1714b2o3bobo$
1720bo2bo$1719bo2b2o10$1702bo$1699b4o4$1702bobo$65bo1637bo$65bo1609b2o
2bo21b2o$67bo5bo1604bobo20bo2bo$66bo6bobo1601bo16bo5b2ob2o$65bo3bo2bo
1621bo$66bo2bobob2o1604b2o13bo$71bob2o$85b2o1060bo532b2o12b2o$85b2o
1060bo531bo13bo2bo$1149bo5bo521b2ob2o11bobo$1148bo6bobo522b2o10b2o$
1147bo3bo2bo523bo13bo$1148bo2bobob2o538b2o$1153bob2o538b2o$1167b2o526b
2o$93b2o1072b2o523b2obo$93b2o1598b3o$74b2o3bo1614bo$72b3o4b2o522bo$67b
3obo8b2o521bo$71bobo2b5o524bo5bo$72bo3b3o525bo6bobo1068b2o$603bo3bo2bo
564b2o505b2o$604bo2bobob2o562b2o$59bo549bob2o543b2o3bo$59bo7bo555b2o
529b3o4b2o$59bo5b3o555b2o524b3obo8b2o$58b2o3bobo1087bobo2b5o$64bo2bo
1086bo3b3o$63bo2b2o1622b2o$1690b2o$1141bo$1141bo7bo$631b2o508bo5b3o$
631b2o507b2o3bobo$612b2o3bo528bo2bo$610b3o4b2o526bo2b2o$605b3obo8b2o$
609bobo2b5o$46bo563bo3b3o$43b4o2$597bo$597bo7bo$46bobo548bo5b3o$47bo
548b2o3bobo$19b2o2bo21b2o555bo2bo522bo$22bobo20bo2bo552bo2b2o519b4o$
21bo16bo5b2ob2o$38bo$23b2o13bo$1128bobo$24b2o12b2o1089bo$23bo13bo2bo
1060b2o2bo21b2o$21b2ob2o11bobo1064bobo20bo2bo$24b2o10b2o1065bo16bo5b2o
b2o$22bo13bo1083bo$39b2o543bo520b2o13bo$39b2o540b4o$39b2o1065b2o12b2o$
36b2obo1065bo13bo2bo$37b3o1063b2ob2o11bobo$38bo545bobo519b2o10b2o$585b
o518bo13bo$557b2o2bo21b2o536b2o$560bobo20bo2bo534b2o$26b2o531bo16bo5b
2ob2o534b2o$26b2o548bo541b2obo$561b2o13bo542b3o$1120bo$562b2o12b2o$
561bo13bo2bo$559b2ob2o11bobo$562b2o10b2o532b2o$34b2o524bo13bo533b2o$
34b2o541b2o$577b2o$577b2o$574b2obo$575b3o$576bo$1116b2o$1116b2o2$564b
2o$564b2o7$572b2o$572b2o94$106bo$105bob2o$109bo$103bo3bo2bo$101bo9bo
11b3o$101bo4b2o2b2o$110b2o$103bo5bo$104bo4b3o$105bo4b2o12b3o5b2o$107b
4o12b2ob2o4b2o$122bobob2o$122bo3bo$123bo2bo9b2o$123b3o10b2o$131b2o3bo$
130b4ob2o$131bobo2bo2$135bob2o$118bo18bo$112b2o3b3o$112b2o3bo2bo4b3o$
99b2o16b3obo2b2ob2o$99b3o15b2o2bo2b2o2bo$99b2obo15b2o6b2o$103bo12bo3bo
$95bo3b2o3bo$105bo11bo$102bobo11bo2bo$102bo13b4o$97bo4bobo12bo2$101b4o
$101b2o3$96b3o$95bo2bo$94bo4bo$94bo2b3o$94bo5bo11b2o$95b7o10b2o$101bo$
101bo$99b2o4$98bo21b2o$97bobo20b2o$96b2obo$96b2o$97b3o$98bo$99bo2bo$
103bo$103bo$95bo5b3o$87bo6bobo$83b2obobo4bo$83bo2b2ob2o$83bo5bobo4bo$
84b2o2bo8bo$88bo2b3o2bo$88b3o$61bobo$61bobobo7bo$60bo2b2obo4b3o$61b2o
3bobob2obo$61b2o3b2ob5o10b3o$65bob2o3b2o10bobo$64bobo16b2ob2o$83b2o3$
86bo18bo$86bo18bobo$105b2o$80b3o$79bo3bo$78bo4bo$68b2obo5bo3b2o3bo$64b
o3b6o11bo$63bo5bo4bo2b2o6b3o$63bo11bo$64bo9bo$69bo$69bo2bo$71bo3$71b2o
$71b2o2$42bobo$41bo$42bo2bo$44bobo$47bo11b3o$46b3o$46bo$44b2o$46bo13b
3o$29bo14bo2bo12b3o5b2o$28bobo13bobo13b2o6b2o$44bo14bo$28bo2bo3bob3o
17b2o2bo$30bo4bo22bo3bo26bo$31bob2obobo19bo2bo27bobo$32b2o3bo21b3o27b
2o$33bo$76b2o$76b2o2$40bo$40bo5b3o$39bobo3b2o2bo$40bo3bo5bo$40bo3bo$
45bo2b2o25bo8b2o$16bobo27b2o26bobo7b2o$15bo58bobo$16bo2bo54bo2bo$18bob
o54bobo$21bo56bo$20b3o54b2o$20bo56bo$18b2o$20bo$18bo2bo31bo$18bobo31bo
b2o$18bo36b2o$50bo6bo$49bo3b4o$50bo4bo4$56b3o$55bo3bo$56b2o$22b2o34b2o
b2o$22b2o36b2o3$49bo$48bobo$48bobo$48bo2bo$30b2o17bobo$30b2o20bo$51b2o
$51bo5$38b2o$38b2o52$62bo$62bo$64bo5bo$63bo6bobo$62bo3bo2bo$63bo2bobob
2o$68bob2o$82b2o$82b2o7$90b2o$90b2o$71b2o3bo$69b3o4b2o$64b3obo8b2o$68b
obo2b5o$69bo3b3o3$56bo$56bo7bo$56bo5b3o$55b2o3bobo$61bo2bo$60bo2b2o10$
43bo$40b4o4$43bobo$44bo$16b2o2bo21b2o$19bobo20bo2bo$18bo16bo5b2ob2o$
35bo$20b2o13bo2$21b2o12b2o$20bo13bo2bo$18b2ob2o11bobo$21b2o10b2o$19bo
13bo$36b2o$36b2o$36b2o$33b2obo$34b3o$35bo4$23b2o$23b2o7$31b2o$31b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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vivi wrote: September 10th, 2020, 10:02 pm first real post, hehe. i've never seen this reaction mentioned -- a blinker at the edge of a fleet shifts it 2 cells diagonally in 26 ticks:

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x = 14, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$3b2o$b2o8b3o$obo5b2o$2o5bobo$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$4b2o!
it can be made into a shuttle with a source of blinkers:

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x = 42, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
3b2o16b2o$3bo5b2o4b2o5bo$4b3obobo4bobob3o$6bobo8bobo$7b2o8b2o3$5b2o12b
2o$5b2o12b2o2$8bo$8bobo$8b3o5$2b2o$3bo$3o$o18b2o$19bobo$20b2o$22b2o$
15b2o5bobo$15bobo5b2o$16b2o$18b2o21bo$18bobo18b3o$19b2o17bo$38b2o5$31b
3o$31bobo$33bo2$21b2o12b2o$21b2o12b2o3$23b2o8b2o$22bobo8bobo$20b3obobo
4bobob3o$19bo5b2o4b2o5bo$19b2o16b2o!
113-cell variant:

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x = 46, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
b4o$o7b2o7b2o$o3b2o2b2o7bobob2obo$bo2b2o13bobob2o$18bobo3$7b2o9bobo$7b
2o10b2o2$13bo4bobo$12b2o6b2o$12bob3obobo$16bobo$18bo7$22bobo$24b2o$22b
2obo$23b2o9$34bo$32bobo$28bob3obobo$28b2o6b2o$29bo4bobo2$23b2o11bo$23b
2o9b3o3$25b2o$21b2obobo10b4o$21bob2obobo7bo7b2o$27b2o7bo3b2o2b2o$37bo
2b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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113-cell variant:

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x = 46, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
b4o$o7b2o7b2o$o3b2o2b2o7bobob2obo$bo2b2o13bobob2o$18bobo3$7b2o9bobo$7b
2o10b2o2$13bo4bobo$12b2o6b2o$12bob3obobo$16bobo$18bo7$22bobo$24b2o$22b
2obo$23b2o9$34bo$32bobo$28bob3obobo$28b2o6b2o$29bo4bobo2$23b2o11bo$23b
2o9b3o3$25b2o$21b2obobo10b4o$21bob2obobo7bo7b2o$27b2o7bo3b2o2b2o$37bo
2b2o!
smaller bounding box:

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x = 26, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
23b2o$22bo2bo$25bo$25bo$22b2obo$22b2o2$17b2o$17b2o4b2o$23b2o3$13b2o$
14b2o$13bo$13bo$12b2o$23b2o$11b3obo2bo2bo2bo$bobo13bo4b2o$3b2o8b3ob2o
2bo$b2obo9bo7b2o$2b2o19bo$22bo$22b2o7$13bo$11bobo$7bob3obobo$7b2o6b2o$
8bo4bobo2$2b2o11bo$2b2o9b3o3$4b2o$2obobo10b4o$ob2obobo7bo7b2o$6b2o7bo
3b2o2b2o$16bo2b2o!
it's cool that the reaction is diagonally symmetric. and it seems to give off some kind of spark? looks like a couple dots and a banana that are all more accessible with the supports shaped like this.
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almost fuse

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x = 35, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
o$2o$b2o$2bo5$7b2o$7bo$8b3o$10bo5$15b2o$15bo$16b3o$18bo5$23b2o$23bo$
24b3o$26bo5$31b2o$31bo$32b3o$34bo!
looking to support hive five (n+18) and charity's oboo reaction (2n+18)

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x = 28, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
19bo$3bo15bo4b2o$2bobo14bo4bobo$2bobo20b2o$3bo11b3o2$25b3o$b2o22b3o$o
2bo$b2o12b2o$10b2o2bobo$bo8b2o2b2o$obo7b2o!
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83bismuth38 wrote: September 11th, 2020, 5:57 pm almost fuse

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x = 35, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
o$2o$b2o$2bo5$7b2o$7bo$8b3o$10bo5$15b2o$15bo$16b3o$18bo5$23b2o$23bo$
24b3o$26bo5$31b2o$31bo$32b3o$34bo!
I tried to find stabilizations by putting random soups behind the reaction. Here's a stabilization that produces eight blinkers (including one traffic light), five blocks, and two beehives per seven fishhooks.

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x = 422, y = 424, rule = B3/S23
bo4bob2o2bob3o$2ob3o2bo3bob2o3bob2o$3b2ob2obo4bo3bo2b2o$4bo3b5o3bo3bobo$2obo2b2o4b4ob4ob2o$bobo3b2ob4obobo2b2o$o4b3ob2o5bo3b2obo$obo2bobo3bo2b2o3b2ob2o$2b2o2bo3bobobob3ob4o$ob2o4bob2ob4ob2o2b2o$o3b4obo2bobo5b2o$obob2o2b5obo2b2obo$4o4bo5bobob3o2bo$4b2o2bobob4o2bobo$bobo3b3o3b2o4bo$o2bo5b4obobobo2b2o$2obob3obobo2bo2b2o4bo$2bo2bo4bo2b2o3b3obo$3bob2o2b2obo2bo2bo3bo$bo2bo3bobo3b3o3bob2o$2ob5o2bob2ob2obobo2bo$2o4bo3bo2b2obobobo$3b2o5bobo2bo5b3o$b2o4bo4b2o3bo2b4o5$27bo$27b2o$28b2o$29bo5$34b2o$34bo$35b3o$37bo5$42b2o$42bo$43b3o$45bo5$50b2o$50bo$51b3o$53bo5$58b2o$58bo$59b3o$61bo5$66b2o$66bo$67b3o$69bo5$74b2o$74bo$75b3o$77bo5$82b2o$82bo$83b3o$85bo5$90b2o$90bo$91b3o$93bo5$98b2o$98bo$99b3o$101bo5$106b2o$106bo$107b3o$109bo5$114b2o$114bo$115b3o$117bo5$122b2o$122bo$123b3o$125bo5$130b2o$130bo$131b3o$133bo5$138b2o$138bo$139b3o$141bo5$146b2o$146bo$147b3o$149bo5$154b2o$154bo$155b3o$157bo5$162b2o$162bo$163b3o$165bo5$170b2o$170bo$171b3o$173bo5$178b2o$178bo$179b3o$181bo5$186b2o$186bo$187b3o$189bo5$194b2o$194bo$195b3o$197bo5$202b2o$202bo$203b3o$205bo5$210b2o$210bo$211b3o$213bo5$218b2o$218bo$219b3o$221bo5$226b2o$226bo$227b3o$229bo5$234b2o$234bo$235b3o$237bo5$242b2o$242bo$243b3o$245bo5$250b2o$250bo$251b3o$253bo5$258b2o$258bo$259b3o$261bo5$266b2o$266bo$267b3o$269bo5$274b2o$274bo$275b3o$277bo5$282b2o$282bo$283b3o$285bo5$290b2o$290bo$291b3o$293bo5$298b2o$298bo$299b3o$301bo5$306b2o$306bo$307b3o$309bo5$314b2o$314bo$315b3o$317bo5$322b2o$322bo$323b3o$325bo5$330b2o$330bo$331b3o$333bo5$338b2o$338bo$339b3o$341bo5$346b2o$346bo$347b3o$349bo5$354b2o$354bo$355b3o$357bo5$362b2o$362bo$363b3o$365bo5$370b2o$370bo$371b3o$373bo5$378b2o$378bo$379b3o$381bo5$386b2o$386bo$387b3o$389bo5$394b2o$394bo$395b3o$397bo5$402b2o$402bo$403b3o$405bo5$410b2o$410bo$411b3o$413bo5$418b2o$418bo$419b3o$421bo!
I tried more soups and got the same stabilization five or six more times. I didn't find any other stabilizations.
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Is this alternate switchwave known?

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x = 112, y = 112, rule = B3/S23:T112,112
6b3o$6b2o$5b3obo$6bo3bo$8bo2bo$2bo5b3o$4o5b2o12b2obo73bobo6bo$3o21b2o
73bo9bobo$o3b2o94bo2bo6b2o$2bo2b2o95b3o$3bob2o$4bo4$91bo$90bobo2$90bo
2bo$92b2o$93bo3$6bo$6b2o$7bo82b2o$6bo85bo$91b2o$90b3o$90b2o$89b3obo$
90bo3bo$92bo2bo$86bo5b3o$72bobo6bo2b4o5b2o12b2obo$71bo9bob4o21b2o$72bo
2bo6b3o3b2o$74b3o9bo2b2o$87bob2o$88bo4$63bo$62bobo2$62bo2bo$64b2o$65bo
3$90bo$90b2o$62b2o27bo$64bo25bo$63b2o$62b3o$62b2o$61b3obo$62bo3bo$64bo
2bo$58bo5b3o$44bobo6bo2b4o5b2o12b2obo$43bo9bob4o21b2o$44bo2bo6b3o3b2o$
46b3o9bo2b2o$59bob2o$60bo4$35bo$34bobo2$34bo2bo$36b2o$37bo3$62bo$62b2o
$34b2o27bo$36bo25bo$35b2o$34b3o$34b2o$33b3obo$34bo3bo$36bo2bo$30bo5b3o
$16bobo6bo2b4o5b2o12b2obo$15bo9bob4o21b2o$16bo2bo6b3o3b2o$18b3o9bo2b2o
$31bob2o$32bo4$7bo$6bobo2$6bo2bo$8b2o$9bo3$34bo$34b2o$6b2o27bo$8bo25bo
$7b2o!
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wwei23 wrote: September 12th, 2020, 10:57 am Is this alternate switchwave known?

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x = 112, y = 112, rule = B3/S23:T112,112
6b3o$6b2o$5b3obo$6bo3bo$8bo2bo$2bo5b3o$4o5b2o12b2obo73bobo6bo$3o21b2o
73bo9bobo$o3b2o94bo2bo6b2o$2bo2b2o95b3o$3bob2o$4bo4$91bo$90bobo2$90bo
2bo$92b2o$93bo3$6bo$6b2o$7bo82b2o$6bo85bo$91b2o$90b3o$90b2o$89b3obo$
90bo3bo$92bo2bo$86bo5b3o$72bobo6bo2b4o5b2o12b2obo$71bo9bob4o21b2o$72bo
2bo6b3o3b2o$74b3o9bo2b2o$87bob2o$88bo4$63bo$62bobo2$62bo2bo$64b2o$65bo
3$90bo$90b2o$62b2o27bo$64bo25bo$63b2o$62b3o$62b2o$61b3obo$62bo3bo$64bo
2bo$58bo5b3o$44bobo6bo2b4o5b2o12b2obo$43bo9bob4o21b2o$44bo2bo6b3o3b2o$
46b3o9bo2b2o$59bob2o$60bo4$35bo$34bobo2$34bo2bo$36b2o$37bo3$62bo$62b2o
$34b2o27bo$36bo25bo$35b2o$34b3o$34b2o$33b3obo$34bo3bo$36bo2bo$30bo5b3o
$16bobo6bo2b4o5b2o12b2obo$15bo9bob4o21b2o$16bo2bo6b3o3b2o$18b3o9bo2b2o
$31bob2o$32bo4$7bo$6bobo2$6bo2bo$8b2o$9bo3$34bo$34b2o$6b2o27bo$8bo25bo
$7b2o!
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a *16* engine cordership right?

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x = 124, y = 124, rule = B3/S23
71bo$70bobo2$70bo2bo$72b2o$73bo$87b2o$87b2o3$70b2o$72bo$70b2o$88bo$88b
2o5b2o$88b2o5b2o$86bobo$87b2o$53bobo6bobo24bo$52bo9bobo22bo2bo$53bo2bo
6bo26bo$55b3o29b3o$103b2o$85bo17b2o$83bobo$85bo$45bo25bo10bobo$44bobo
20b5o7bo$67bo3bobo4b4o2bo$44bo2bo19b3o3b3o3b2ob3o$46b2o25b2o2b3o31b2o$
47bo25bo37b2o$70b3o$70b2o3$44b2o56b3o$46bo55bobo$44b2o56bobo14b2o$102b
o4b2o9b4o$54b3o44b3o3b2o10b3o$54bobo21bo28bo12b2o$54bobo20b3o23b4o13bo
$54bo4b2o15bo3bo23b2o12bob2o$27bobo6bobo14b3o3b2o14b4o25bo13b4o$26bo9b
obo20bo14b3o2bobo36bobobo$27bo2bo6bo17b4o16bo2bo2b2o22bo13b2ob2o$29b3o
24b2o14bo3b2o2bo22bobo12bo3bo$56bo14b3o3bo2b3o18b5o13b3o$70b3obo6b2o9b
o7bob3o15bo$57bo11bobo2b2o12b5o7b2o2bo$55bobo10b2obobo14bo3bobo4b3o$
19bo33b5o11bo2bo15b3o3b3o3b3o$18bobo23bo7bob3o13bo3b2o18b2o2b3o$40b5o
7b2o2bo15b2ob2o17bo$18bo2bo18bo3bobo4b3o19bob2o14b3o$20b2o18b3o3b3o3b
3o36b2o$21bo24b2o2b3o$46bo$43b3o$43b2o2$18b2o56b3o$20bo55bobo$18b2o56b
obo$76bo4b2o$75b3o3b2o$27b3o51bo$27bobo21bo25b4o$27bobo20b3o25b2o$bobo
6bobo14bo4b2o15bo3bo24bo$o9bobo13b3o3b2o14b4o$bo2bo6bo20bo14b3o2bobo
24bo$3b3o22b4o16bo2bo2b2o21bobo$29b2o14bo3b2o2bo21b5o$29bo14b3o3bo2b3o
10bo7bob3o$43b3obo6b2o6b5o7b2o2bo$30bo11bobo2b2o13bo3bobo4b3o$28bobo
10b2obobo15b3o3b3o3b3o$27b4o11bo2bo22b2o2b3o$28b2o13bo3b2o19bo$28bo16b
2ob2o15b3o$26bo2bo16bob2o15b2o$24bo4bo$26bob2o$23b3o$16bo$6b2o9bobobo$
6b2o5b5o3bo28b3o$14b2o2bo2bo28bobo$19b2o29bobo$50bo4b2o$49b3o3b2o$55bo
$51b4o$14b2o36b2o$14b2o36bo2$53bo$51bobo$49b5o$40bo7bob3o$36b5o7b2o2bo
$22b2o12bo3bobo4b3o$22b2o12b3o3b3o3b3o$42b2o2b3o$42bo$39b3o$39b2o3$30b
2o$30b2o6$39bo3b3obo$38b3o3bobobo$38b9ob2o$39b3ob2o3bo$45b3o$46bo!
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PC101 wrote: September 13th, 2020, 2:50 pm Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a *16* engine cordership right?
Nope, there are actually 20 switch engines hiding in there:

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x = 113, y = 113, rule = LifeSuper
71.W$70.W.W2$70.W2.W$72.2W$73.W$87.2M$87.2M3$70.2M$72.M$70.2M$88.M$
88.2M5.2M$88.2M5.2M$86.M.M$87.2M$53.O.O6.M.M24.M$52.O9.M.M22.M2.M$53.
O2.O6.M26.M$55.3O29.3M$103.2M$85.M17.2M$83.M.M$85.M$45.W25.U10.M.M$
44.W.W20.5U7.M$67.U3.U.U4.4M2.M$44.W2.W19.3U3.3U3.2M.3M$46.2W25.2U2.
3M31.2M$47.W25.U37.2M$70.3U$70.2U3$44.2M56.3O$46.M55.O.O$44.2M56.O.O$
102.O4.2O$54.3S44.3O3.2O$54.S.S21.Q28.O$54.S.S20.3Q23.4O$54.S4.2S15.Q
3.Q23.2O$27.O.O6.M.M14.3S3.2S14.4Q25.O$26.O9.M.M20.S14.3Q2.Q.Q$27.O2.
O6.M17.4S16.Q2.Q2.2Q22.M$29.3O24.2S14.W3.2Q2.Q22.M.M$56.S14.3W3.Q2.3Q
18.5M$70.3W.W6.2Q9.pA7.M.3M$57.M11.W.W2.2W12.5pA7.2M2.M$55.M.M10.2W.W
.W14.pA3.pA.pA4.3M$19.W33.5M11.W2.W15.3pA3.3pA3.3M$18.W.W23.U7.M.3M
13.W3.2W18.2pA2.3M$40.5U7.2M2.M15.2W.2W17.pA$18.W2.W18.U3.U.U4.3M19.W
.2W14.3pA$20.2W18.3U3.3U3.3M36.2pA$21.W24.2U2.3M$46.U$43.3U$43.2U2$
18.2M56.3O$20.M55.O.O$18.2M56.O.O$76.O4.2O$75.3O3.2O$27.3S51.O$27.S.S
21.Q25.4O$27.S.S20.3Q25.2O$.O.O6.M.M14.S4.2S15.Q3.Q24.O$O9.M.M13.3S3.
2S14.4Q$.O2.O6.M20.S14.3Q2.Q.Q24.M$3.3O22.4S16.Q2.Q2.2Q21.M.M$29.2S
14.W3.2Q2.Q21.5M$29.S14.3W3.Q2.3Q10.pA7.M.3M$43.3W.W6.2Q6.5pA7.2M2.M$
30.S11.W.W2.2W13.pA3.pA.pA4.3M$28.M.M10.2W.W.W15.3pA3.3pA3.3M$27.4M
11.W2.W22.2pA2.3M$28.2M13.W3.2W19.pA$28.M16.2W.2W15.3pA$26.M2.M16.W.
2W15.2pA$24.M4.M$26.M.2M$23.3M$16.M$6.2M9.M.M.M$6.2M5.5M3.M28.3O$14.
2M2.M2.M28.O.O$19.2M29.O.O$50.O4.2O$49.3O3.2O$55.O$51.4O$14.2M36.2O$
14.2M36.O2$53.M$51.M.M$49.5M$40.pA7.M.3M$36.5pA7.2M2.M$22.2M12.pA3.pA
.pA4.3M$22.2M12.3pA3.3pA3.3M$42.2pA2.3M$42.pA$39.3pA$39.2pA3$30.2M$
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it is a 20 switch engines-strong cordership that magically becomes a 16 switch engines-strong cordership by generation 14... just look at gen 9 if in doubt...
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Jormungant wrote: September 13th, 2020, 5:33 pm it is a 20 switch engines-strong cordership that magically becomes a 16 switch engines-strong cordership by generation 14... just look at gen 9 if in doubt...
Ah, you're right -- I mis-colored four sparks in the third row, because they looked so much like a stage of a switch engine. Correction:

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x = 113, y = 113, rule = LifeSuper
71.W$70.W.W2$70.W2.W$72.2W$73.W$87.2M$87.2M3$70.2M$72.M$70.2M$88.M$
88.2M5.2M$88.2M5.2M$86.M.M$87.2M$53.O.O6.M.M24.M$52.O9.M.M22.M2.M$53.
O2.O6.M26.M$55.3O29.3M$103.2M$85.M17.2M$83.M.M$85.M$45.W25.pA10.M.M$
44.W.W20.5pA7.M$67.pA3.pA.pA4.4M2.M$44.W2.W19.3pA3.3pA3.2M.3M$46.2W
25.2pA2.3M31.2M$47.W25.pA37.2M$70.3pA$70.2pA3$44.2M56.3U$46.M55.U.U$
44.2M56.U.U$102.U4.2U$54.3S44.3U3.2U$54.S.S21.M28.U$54.S.S20.3M23.4U$
54.S4.2S15.M3.M23.2U$27.O.O6.M.M14.3S3.2S14.4M25.U$26.O9.M.M20.S14.3M
2.M.M$27.O2.O6.M17.4S16.M2.M2.2M22.M$29.3O24.2S14.M3.2M2.M22.M.M$56.S
14.3M3.M2.3M18.5M$70.3M.M6.2M9.Q7.M.3M$57.M11.M.M2.2M12.5Q7.2M2.M$55.
M.M10.2M.M.M14.Q3.Q.Q4.3M$19.W33.5M11.M2.M15.3Q3.3Q3.3M$18.W.W23.pA7.
M.3M13.M3.2M18.2Q2.3M$40.5pA7.2M2.M15.2M.2M17.Q$18.W2.W18.pA3.pA.pA4.
3M19.M.2M14.3Q$20.2W18.3pA3.3pA3.3M36.2Q$21.W24.2pA2.3M$46.pA$43.3pA$
43.2pA2$18.2M56.3U$20.M55.U.U$18.2M56.U.U$76.U4.2U$75.3U3.2U$27.3S51.
U$27.S.S21.M25.4U$27.S.S20.3M25.2U$.O.O6.M.M14.S4.2S15.M3.M24.U$O9.M.
M13.3S3.2S14.4M$.O2.O6.M20.S14.3M2.M.M24.M$3.3O22.4S16.M2.M2.2M21.M.M
$29.2S14.M3.2M2.M21.5M$29.S14.3M3.M2.3M10.Q7.M.3M$43.3M.M6.2M6.5Q7.2M
2.M$30.M11.M.M2.2M13.Q3.Q.Q4.3M$28.M.M10.2M.M.M15.3Q3.3Q3.3M$27.4M11.
M2.M22.2Q2.3M$28.2M13.M3.2M19.Q$28.M16.2M.2M15.3Q$26.M2.M16.M.2M15.2Q
$24.M4.M$26.M.2M$23.3M$16.M$6.2M9.M.M.M$6.2M5.5M3.M28.3U$14.2M2.M2.M
28.U.U$19.2M29.U.U$50.U4.2U$49.3U3.2U$55.U$51.4U$14.2M36.2U$14.2M36.U
2$53.M$51.M.M$49.5M$40.Q7.M.3M$36.5Q7.2M2.M$22.2M12.Q3.Q.Q4.3M$22.2M
12.3Q3.3Q3.3M$42.2Q2.3M$42.Q$39.3Q$39.2Q3$30.2M$30.2M!
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Jormungant wrote: September 13th, 2020, 5:33 pm it is a 20 switch engines-strong cordership that magically becomes a 16 switch engines-strong cordership by generation 14... just look at gen 9 if in doubt...
The 13-engine Cordership and 10-engine Cordership produce the same sparks.
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Two pi collision (one of which is ahead by one generation) produces a cis-mirrored worm:

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x = 5, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
bobo$bobo$b3o$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$2bo$bobo$2ob2o!
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x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
10.B$10.A$3A6.A.A$A.A7.A$A.A7.B! 

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x = 10, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
BA$.A$2.B2$3.B$3.A$3.A$2.B2A2.2A$4.A2.A.A$.B2A3.A$2.A$2.A$2.B! 
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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ENORMOUS_NAME wrote: September 14th, 2020, 3:07 pmTwo pi collision (one of which is ahead by one generation) produces a cis-mirrored worm: ...
That is probably the most common way that still-life comes up. I remember finding this reaction some time back in the '90s or '80s. Other than the spark coil and two dead spark coil variants, this is the only interaction of two pis that seemed useful (although I don't recall trying any of the ones with the two pis back to back, or facing in the same direction, or at 90 degrees in different phases).
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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Don't forget this one. I think it'd qualify.

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x=7, y=19
2bo$obo$b2o2$3bo$3bobo$3b2o6$4b2o$4bobo$4bo2$2b2o$bobo$3bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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hkoenig wrote: September 14th, 2020, 7:59 pm Don't forget this one. I think it'd qualify.

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x=7, y=19
2bo$obo$b2o2$3bo$3bobo$3b2o6$4b2o$4bobo$4bo2$2b2o$bobo$3bo!
Catalogue already has a four-glider synthesis using the fact that a ∏-heptomino can be synthesized with two gliders. However, I'm sure that you just in just as much work as the first person to discover that, so thank you, and keep on searching; you're bound to find something new eventually if you do so.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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MathAndCode wrote: you're bound to find something new eventually if you do so
The reply was to Niemiec, not you.

Not sure if you intended it, but there's no need to be condescending. Especially since I've occasionally been contributing to the Game of Life discoveries for decades more than you have. As for this interaction in particular, I didn't find it, but seem to remember it being published in LifeLine or some other early article.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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hkoenig wrote: September 14th, 2020, 7:59 pmDon't forget this one. I think it'd qualify
Oh, right! I had forgotten about that one. Peter Raynham found that one some time in the 1970's, I think.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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hkoenig wrote: September 14th, 2020, 8:56 pmThe reply was to Niemiec, not you.

Not sure if you intended it, but there's no need to be condescending. Especially since I've occasionally been contributing to the Game of Life discoveries for decades more than you have. As for this interaction in particular, I didn't find it, but seem to remember it being published in LifeLine or some other early article.
I'm sorry about that. I'd become used to a new user posting collisions of two ∏-heptominoes here, and I should have read your post more carefully. Also, I wasn't trying to be condescending to anyone.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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Is this class of 3-engine Cordership known? (Regular one below for reference)

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x = 1094, y = 135, rule = B3/S23
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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wwei23 wrote: September 15th, 2020, 9:23 am Is this class of 3-engine Cordership known? (Regular one below for reference)...
Huh, intermediate blinker instead of intermediate glider. I don't remember anyone mentioning that -- it's probably new. Nice find!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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It's the same mechanism as in the corresponding class of 4-engine Cordership. It also seems like I managed to rediscover the regular 3-engine cordership while at it, too. It came from the realization that the regular 4-engine Corderships were really switchwave stabilizations, I could add more switch engines in the middle. But then I tried removing one and 3-engine Cordership happened. Here is the original 3-engine Cordership highlighted in the list.

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x = 1094, y = 138, rule = B3/S23
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o6b2o13bo3b4o9b2ob2o33b2obo6b2o17b4ob3o6b3o34b2obo6b2o13bob2ob3o4bob2o
2bo32bo3b2obo3bobo15b2o37bo5b2obo6b2o15b2obo9b7o2b3o28b2obo6b2o14bo13b
o39b2obo6b2o13b2o5b2o8b2o36b2obo6b2o14bobo2bo8bobo37b2obo6b2o15bobo12b
2o2bob2o30b2obo6b2o15bo17b2ob3o$42bobobobo63bo13b2o74b3ob2o58bo9bo5b3o
61bobo7bo6b2obo60b2ob2o9bobob2o60b2o2bob2obobo3b2o44bo13bo75bo16bo2b3o
57b2o12bobo158bo79b2obob2o58bo12b2o2b2obobo$41bo2bob2o73b2ob2o75bo4b2o
59bobo12b3o77bo64bobo12b2o67b5ob2o3b2o33bo10b3o2bo3b2obobo14bobo25bo
49b2ob2o74bo77b2o79b2o78b2ob3o73b2o2bo2bo$41bob2o77b2o77bo2bo78bo79bo
147b2o3b2obo51b2obo4b2obo14bo2bo70bo2bob3o73bobo4bo74bo78bobo75bo4bo
79b2o$42b2o158b2o159bo154bobo36bo13b2obo3b2obo15bobo25bo46b2ob3o154b2o
b2o75b2o78b4o76bob2o$573bo5b3o92bo77b4o76b2o81b2o76bo78bo$557bo22bo44b
o128b2o79bo78bo$597bo$557bo37b2obo26bo$595b2obo21bobo$61bobo77bobo77bo
bo77bobo77bobo77bobo77bobo13bo37bo3bo20b3o2bo65bobo77bobo77bobo77bobo
77bobo77bobo$61b3o77b3o77b3o77b3o77b3o77b3o77b3o51b4o6bo15b2o68b3o77b
3o77b3o77b3o77b3o77b3o$46bo15b2o62bo15b2o62bo15b2o62bo15b2o62bo15b2o
62bo15b2o62bo15b2o13bo38b3o6bo19bo50bo15b2o62bo15b2o62bo15b2o62bo15b2o
62bo15b2o62bo15b2o$46bo79bo79bo79bo79bo79bo79bo79bo69bo79bo79bo79bo79b
o79bo$47bo79bo79bo79bo79bo79bo79bo29bo46b2o13bo5bo51bo79bo79bo79bo79bo
79bo$45b2o13bo64b2o13bo64b2o13bo64b2o13bo64b2o13bo64b2o13bo64b2o13bo
62bo2bo12bobo53b2o13bo64b2o13bo64b2o13bo64b2o13bo64b2o13bo64b2o13bo$
44bo2bo12bobo61bo2bo12bobo61bo2bo12bobo61bo2bo12bobo61bo2bo12bobo61bo
2bo12bobo61bo2bo12bobo14bo46bobo12b3o3bo48bo2bo12bobo61bo2bo12bobo61bo
2bo12bobo61bo2bo12bobo61bo2bo12bobo61bo2bo12bobo$45bobo12b3o62bobo12b
3o62bobo12b3o62bobo12b3o62bobo12b3o62bobo12b3o62bobo12b3o75bo56bobo12b
3o62bobo12b3o62bobo12b3o62bobo12b3o62bobo12b3o62bobo12b3o$59bo79bo79bo
79bo79bo79bo79bo17bo47bo12b5o2bo63bo79bo79bo79bo79bo79bo$46bo12b5o62bo
12b5o62bo12b5o62bo12b5o62bo12b5o62bo12b5o62bo12b5o60bo2bo68bo12b5o62bo
12b5o62bo12b5o62bo12b5o62bo12b5o62bo12b5o$45bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo
76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo28bo45b4o18bo49bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo
76bo2bo$44b4o76b4o76b4o76b4o76b4o76b4o76b4o75b2o69b4o76b4o76b4o76b4o
76b4o76b4o$38b3o3b2o72b3o3b2o72b3o3b2o72b3o3b2o72b3o3b2o72b3o3b2o72b3o
3b2o31bo48bo18bo42b3o3b2o72b3o3b2o72b3o3b2o72b3o3b2o72b3o3b2o72b3o3b2o
$47bo79bo79bo79bo79bo79bo79bo78b2o69bo79bo79bo79bo79bo79bo$47b2o78b2o
78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o28bo46bo2bo17bo51b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o
$45bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo75b3o68bo2bo76bo2bo
76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo$45b3o77b3o77b3o77b3o77b3o77b3o77b3o29bo
47bo19bo49b3o77b3o77b3o77b3o77b3o77b3o$46bo79bo79bo79bo79bo79bo79bo
149bo79bo79bo79bo79bo79bo$557bo67bo$616b2o$57b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o
78b2o78b2o18bo58b2o7bo61b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o$57b2o78b2o78b2o
78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o148b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o$557bo67bo2$557bo
67bo2$557bo67bo$608b2o$49b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o26bo50b2o15b
o53b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o$49b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o
148b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o$557bo67bo$558bobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo8$24b3o$25bo$22bo2bo$22bo2b
o$22bobo$8b2o$8b2o3$25bo$24bobo$25bo$8bo$2o7bo$2o22b4o$11bo10bo3b2o$9b
obo9bo4bo$10bo10b2obo$23bo3$10b2obobo$13bobo16bo$10bo2bo17b3o$10bo3bo$
7b2o2b4o16b3o$6b2o5bo14b2ob2o$8bo21bo3$54b3o$55bo$52bo2bo$52bo2bo$52bo
bo$38b2o$38b2o$33bo$32b3o$31b2ob2o19bo$33bobo18bobo$35bo19bo3$54b4o$
38bo13bo3b2o$37bobo11bo4bo$39bo11b2obo$36b2o15bo$36bo$37b3o$37b2o$41bo
$40b2o$40b2o$42b2o6b2o$44b2o4b2o$42bob2o$42b2o5$42b2o$42b2o!
The corresponding 4-engine cordership in my collection:

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x = 74, y = 74, rule = B3/S23
20bo6b3o$20bob2o3b2o$20bobo5b2o$20bob3o$20b2o$8b2o$8b2o7$2o$2o$14b2o3b
o$13bob2obo3b2obo$12b2o4bobo3bob2o$13b2o2b3o2bobo$17b2o4bo3$35bo$28bo
5bobo$26b2ob2o$26b2o3bo2b3o$26b2ob2o$27b4o10$48bobo$48bo2bo$48bobo3$
48bo$46b2obo$46b2obo21bobo$46bo3bo20b3o$46b4o6bo15b2o$47b3o6bo$57bo$
55b2o13bo$54bo2bo12bobo$55bobo12b3o$69bo$56bo12b5o$55bo2bo$54b4o$54b2o
$57bo$57b2o$55bo2bo$55b3o$56bo3$67b2o$67b2o7$59b2o$59b2o!
Edit: Another one, is this one known?

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x = 50, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
24b3o$24b3o$25bo$23b2o$23bo$8b2o14bo$8b2o3$25b2o$25b2o10bo$25bo4bo3bo
2bobo2bo$9bo15bo4b5ob2o4bo$2o5b2o15bobo4bobo4bo3bo$2o6bobo16bo$7bo2bo
11b2o2bo11b3o$7bob2o10bo3bo13bo$7bobo12b2o$7bobo13bo$7b3o17b2o$7b3o17b
2o7b2o$36b2o$9bobo2bo31b3o$8bo6bo30b3o$8bo5bo32bo$13bo31b2o$45bo$46bo
4$47b2o$47b2o$47bo$47bo$46bobo$49bo$31b2o11b2o2bo$30bo2bo9bo3bo$30bo
13b2o$30bo2bo11bo$31b4o$34bo$34bo4$42b2o$42b2o!
Edit 2: What about this one?

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x = 61, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
24b3o$23bo3bo$23bo4bo$25bo3bo$22b3obo2bo$21bo7bo$21bobo3bo$20b2obo3bo$
20b2ob3o$8b2o$8b2o3$24b2o$24b2o$24bo2$2o22bo$2o2$18b3o5bo$18bo7bo$18bo
bo5bo$19b2o5$32bo$20b2o9bobo$20b2o8b2ob2o$30b2ob2o20b3o$33b3o18bo3bo$
29bo3b3o18bo4bo$18bo9bo4b3o20bo3bo$18bo8bo5b2o18b3obo2bo$18bo13b3o17bo
7bo$32b2o18bobo3bo$31b2o18b2obo3bo$51b2ob3o$39b2o$32bo6b2o$31b3o$30bo
3bo$29b2o24b2o$30b2o23b2o$55bo2$31b2o22bo$31b2o2$25b3o21b3o5bo$49bo7bo
$37b2o10bobo5bo$36bo2bo10b2o$36bo3bo$37b2o2$44bo$45b2o$41bo5b2o2b2o$
45b2o4b2o$42bo$42b4o$44bobo$41bob2o2bo$41bo4bo$45bo$41bo2bo$43b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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wwei23 wrote: September 15th, 2020, 9:35 am Edit: Another one, is this one known?
Edit 2: What about this one?
As far as I know, any 3-engine Cordership that isn't Paul Tooke's Cordership is going to be new. I haven't yet gone back and read through every possible old email that might have some overlooked prior art. But there's a reason why Paul Tooke's Cordership is called "3-engine Cordership" in the LifeWiki article -- because there weren't any others until today. I don't think anyone had even succeeded in making anything by overlapping two 2-engine Corderships.

The first of the new edited-in Corderships is extra interesting, because it cleans up its blocks with sideways gliders, just like the 7-in-a-row, 6-in-a-row, and 5-in-a-row Corderships. Unfortunately the super simple Heisenburp catalyst for those in-a-row Corderships -- just a plain tub, suppressing a block and letting a glider out -- doesn't quite work in this context:

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x = 50, y = 66, rule = B3/S23
27bo$26bobo$27bo15$24b3o$24b3o$25bo$23b2o$23bo$8b2o14bo$8b2o3$25b2o$
25b2o10bo$25bo4bo3bo2bobo2bo$9bo15bo4b5ob2o4bo$2o5b2o15bobo4bobo4bo3bo
$2o6bobo16bo$7bo2bo11b2o2bo11b3o$7bob2o10bo3bo13bo$7bobo12b2o$7bobo13b
o$7b3o17b2o$7b3o17b2o7b2o$36b2o$9bobo2bo31b3o$8bo6bo30b3o$8bo5bo32bo$
13bo31b2o$45bo$46bo4$47b2o$47b2o$47bo$47bo$46bobo$49bo$31b2o11b2o2bo$
30bo2bo9bo3bo$30bo13b2o$30bo2bo11bo$31b4o$34bo$34bo4$42b2o$42b2o!
Maybe there's some other catalyst that could suppress the block, though? Or failing that, it's definitely very easy to build a pseudo-Heisenburp with various different bait objects:

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x = 50, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
41b2o$41b2o29$24b3o$24b3o$25bo$23b2o$23bo$8b2o14bo$8b2o3$25b2o$25b2o
10bo$25bo4bo3bo2bobo2bo$9bo15bo4b5ob2o4bo$2o5b2o15bobo4bobo4bo3bo$2o6b
obo16bo$7bo2bo11b2o2bo11b3o$7bob2o10bo3bo13bo$7bobo12b2o$7bobo13bo$7b
3o17b2o$7b3o17b2o7b2o$36b2o$9bobo2bo31b3o$8bo6bo30b3o$8bo5bo32bo$13bo
31b2o$45bo$46bo4$47b2o$47b2o$47bo$47bo$46bobo$49bo$31b2o11b2o2bo$30bo
2bo9bo3bo$30bo13b2o$30bo2bo11bo$31b4o$34bo$34bo4$42b2o$42b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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wwei23 wrote: September 15th, 2020, 9:35 amEdit: Another one, is this one known?

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x = 50, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
24b3o$24b3o$25bo$23b2o$23bo$8b2o14bo$8b2o3$25b2o$25b2o10bo$25bo4bo3bo
2bobo2bo$9bo15bo4b5ob2o4bo$2o5b2o15bobo4bobo4bo3bo$2o6bobo16bo$7bo2bo
11b2o2bo11b3o$7bob2o10bo3bo13bo$7bobo12b2o$7bobo13bo$7b3o17b2o$7b3o17b
2o7b2o$36b2o$9bobo2bo31b3o$8bo6bo30b3o$8bo5bo32bo$13bo31b2o$45bo$46bo
4$47b2o$47b2o$47bo$47bo$46bobo$49bo$31b2o11b2o2bo$30bo2bo9bo3bo$30bo
13b2o$30bo2bo11bo$31b4o$34bo$34bo4$42b2o$42b2o!
This one looks narrower than the others, which means that it can fit through narrower spaces. Is there any change that you could remove another switch engine and figure out a way to stabilize that side? Based on how little our knowledge of small Corderships was only at the beginning of this month, it certainly seems possible that there's a narrow two-engine Cordership waiting to be discovered.
MathAndCode wrote: September 14th, 2020, 5:33 pmI wonder whether or not it's possible to have two switch engines with one either directly behind or behind and somewhat to the side of the other that don't leave any debris, creating a two-engine Cordership that could fit through narrower gaps than the one that has already been discovered.
I am tentatively considering myself back.
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